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Let's be honest, smoking cigarettes is far cheaper than vaping!

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  1. TraderX

    TraderX Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2015
    Philly Suburbs
    I am new here and I am surely not the type to stir the pot, but something is bothering me. I see all these members with banners at the bottom explaining how much money they have saved thus far by not smoking, and vaping instead? I just have to shake my head and wonder what planet they come from.

    Ten years ago I purchased a top of the line cigarette injector for $25. That same injector costs $35 right now, and it has been highly improved. I can buy top quality bulk tobacco wholesale on the internet, top quality filtered cigarette tubes, and produce world class cigarettes for just about $1.25 per pack. A few years ago it was less than a $1.00 per pack. These are first class top quality cigarettes, better than anything you can buy in any store. You can make them in any style or strength you like, regular or menthol.

    A fumble fingered klutz with no practice can pump out one cigarette every 30 seconds, I can do 5 or 6 per minute, and I am kind of a klutz myself! I know poor people and rich people who make cigarettes this same way. Who still buys cigarettes in stores for $5 to $10 per pack? Seriously, who does that? Certainly not anyone with an IQ above 75.

    Don't tell me it would have been to difficult for you to do, because messing with Mods, and e-juice, and batteries is far more time consuming and difficult than pumping out cigarettes on a tube injector. So my former habit cost me $1.25 per day for a pack. I can already tell that I will be burning far more than $1.25 in e-juice daily.

    All I am saying is that vaping is more expensive than smoking for anyone with common sense, so stop bragging about how much money you saved, that is disingenuous. Brag about why you are doing it for your health.
     
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  2. stevegmu

    stevegmu Moved On ECF Veteran

    Who cares about money? I have more endurance and stamina than I did when I was 21...
     
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  3. edyle

    edyle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    There are actually 3 question marks in there, but I don't think there are actually any real questions.
     
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  4. Oberon75

    Oberon75 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2014
    Roseville, Mi, USA
    RYO is certainly cheaper and better then Big Tobacco cigarettes but just like cigarettes, you can buy much cheaper juice which isn't falsely marketed as premium. There are many vendors out there which offer 120ml bottles for $20 or less. Learn DIY and its Cheaper yet.

    Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition
     
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  5. edyle

    edyle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    that's it.

    The same way somebody can smoke cheaper by ryo,
    a vaper can vape cheap with a mech mod, rda, and diy eliquid AND be cheaper than ryo.
    but yes, as the op stated, it would require knowhow
     
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  6. issy

    issy Super Member ECF Veteran

    Right back at ya ;) Even though RYO is much less expensive, I've only met about 2 people IRL who dun it.

    Should we update the banners to say "If I continued smoking the way that I smoked, I would have spent..." ? I've seen plenty of banners that account for RYO-style smokers, and they have saved considerably less money than those of us who didn't RYO. So it is out there, most just didn't do it.

    Anywho, it's not just about the money for me...I like my banner, and in a year, I've still only spend about $300 on vaping supplies. Factor in the long term savings from setting up my own DIY juice kit (half of that was on supplies for it), and I'll spend much less next year on supplies. But i smell better and feel better and so much more.

    To each their own!

    ETA: my ejuice costs me about 10 cents/mL...I vape about 3mL per day. Vaping is cheaper for me than RYO would've been.
     
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  7. VHRB2014

    VHRB2014 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2014
    Nic`d Up in Cali.
    All of my consumables, wick, wire and juice, cost less then a buck a day. And that`s with me and the better half vaping at 10-12ml a day between both of us.
     
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  8. dbrandt01

    dbrandt01 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 6, 2014
    Alabama
    I rolled my own cigarettes and I dipped 2-3 cans a day. Despite buying the mods I have used and DIYing my own unflavored e-juice. Vaping is still cheaper. I can spend $50 and have 1000ml of my unflavored which lasts me a good while.
     
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  9. HauntedMyst

    HauntedMyst Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 18, 2013
    Chicago
    Agreed. I worked in one of Chicago's largest tobacco shops for years and I think I sold two of those RYO machines in that time. Granted, RYO has grown massively in the past decade but the vast majority of smokers still buy packs or cartons (and their IQ's are arguably over 75) because cig smokers tend to be brand loyal and RYO doesn't taste the same.

    FYI, I vape about 10ml of DIY a day. That 30 cents a day is a bargain compared to smoking a pack :)
     
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  10. chav

    chav Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2014
    Oklahoma
    I would say that making juice yourself accounts for a lot, I can make juice to last me a week, build my own coils and wick them for just a couple bucks, it all depends on how you do it, premixed vs diy, building your own coils vs buying prebuilt, just like ryo vs buying a pack
     
  11. Amraann

    Amraann Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 24, 2011
    Florida
    If you do not like vaping or if it is to expensive for you then why are you here?

    I am just not understanding the point of your post. It just seems like you want to rain on others parade. Why?
    If people are happy and not harming you or your life then why are you concerned?
    People here should be celebrated. Your post is just nit picking and does not mention at all that you actually vape.

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  12. Cullin Kin

    Cullin Kin Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 28, 2014
    The 3Oh!3, Colorado
    Uhm, not if you DIY...
     
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  13. Katya

    Katya ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Feb 23, 2010
    SoCal
    Seriously? Disingenuous? You do realize that people make their calculations based on what they used to spend on cigs, not on what you spend on cigs, right?

    Negative waves? ;)
     
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  14. DaveSignal

    DaveSignal Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2014
    Maryland
    I didn't stop smoking because I needed to save money. I like to spend money on things that I enjoy. Vaping is an exciting hobby.
     
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  15. Troll from behind

    Troll from behind Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2012
    Finlad
    Honestly though I think most of those banners are outdated going back to the days of cartos and Lavatubes.
    With the current trend of higher watts the amount of liquid one goes through a day is measured in tens of mills, not in mills.



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  16. Lessifer

    Lessifer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Could I have made RYO cigs when I smoked? Probably. Did I? No. According to the major tobacco companies earnings statements, A LOT of people don't. My banner is based on what I spent on cigarettes daily, and if you set one up, you can set it for what you would have spent on cigs daily.

    I spend on average, maybe $20 a month on juice/gear. I'm a modwomper, I vape 2-3ml/day.

    I also only spend about 30 minutes a week "fiddling" with my gear, so... yeah.
     
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  17. mjrshark

    mjrshark Full Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    Totally agree , it may save lil money if ya want by not just buyin mods and tanks alot.

    Plus its my health that I do care about ;)
     
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  18. VCross

    VCross Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 6, 2015
    Yucaipa, California
    Price of smoking vs startup cost of vaping? Sure, I'll give you that if you get a really expensive mod. It's cheaper to just keep smoking but at this point I've got a nice mod that I smoke and a 30ml bottle of juice for about $7 lasts me about 2 weeks and a 5 pack of BVC coils costs me about $7 and I only use about 2 of them per month. So, I can smoke for a whole month off basically $15 which is cheaper than even RYO.
     
  19. Papillon61

    Papillon61 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2015
    Sunshine Isle
    I don't care about the money either. I could easily afford cigarettes with no problems. And in 2 months I have spent much more on vaping equipment and DIY base and flavours than I would have on a year and a half of smoking, although I was forced into that by the circumstances we live in. But that is not the point is it. The point is I feel better, period.
     
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  20. six

    six Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2011
    under the blue sky
    For me... $150 is a year plus a little worth of juice. $40 is at least a year worth of batteries. 20 bucks bought me a decade worth of cotton a year ago. 25 bucks bought me 5 or so years worth of wire.

    When I was smoking, I smoked 19 1/2 cigarettes a day every day and a nice cigar twice a month. If I rolled them, I rolled drum and I smoked 19 1/2 a day. It wasn't cheap and even became unavailable for about a year because of some trade dispute. If I bought them, I bought camels and I smoked 19 1/2 of them a day and the end was real close to 6 bucks a pack... The cigars I smoked were usually worth about thirty bucks each but were occasionally a couple bucks less and a couple of times a year about 80 bucks more.

    Yeah. I'm saving money. When I consider my decision to try vaping after failing to stop smoking and knowing my health was failing because I was smoking... I wonder how much I've saved just in oxygen tanks I don't have to carry with me.
     
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