Let's have a tank discussion. (Repeat topic, I know. Humor me, if you will.)

[Elendil]

The liquinator can be had relatively cheap: Vape-O-Matic Liquinator 3mL

Unless I am missing something, I see no reason you couldn't use the carto of your choice. I don't think it has to be a dual coil anything.

 

[Levitas]

Heya Elendil

That is the tank I've my eyes set on at the moment, but, I was just curious to see all of the possible options out there at the moment. I think the biggest drawback from a Liquinator for me is slotting the cartomizers. I do not have a dremel and refuse to pay $2.50 per carto. I hear that you can punch holes with a nail for similar, if not better, results.

I'm pretty sure that the Liquinator is going to be purchased soon next week. Unless of course, there is something else out there that I'm missing.

Edit: To say, I'm retiring for the evening. The Game of Thrones is calling me back into its excellent plot, and I just cannot seem to get enough of it.

More on this! Later.

 

[Devonmoonshire]

And here is the Link to the Dual Coil MAP tanks, or DCT's Two places that I know have them one is Most Angry Industries, (The Designers Website), and Clouds of Vapor.

DUAL COIL TANK (DCT) DELRIN | Most Angry Industries Delrin in White or Black

DUAL COIL TANK (DCT) STAINLESS STEEL | Most Angry Industries Stainless Steel

DCT MAP Tank

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[GiMante]

Those are another rendition of the Liquinators, no? (Setting aside whichever actually came first).

No, not even close The jonboy lava tanks are pieces of art. Here is an example:

 

[Elendil]

All you need to mod a standard carto is a 1/16" drill bit. I use my bench grinder to grind just a bit to give the drill bit a starting point. Works like a charm. If you have a friend with a drill press then it is easy peasy.

 

[tyleris12]

Before I got my Punch and Jig set from Vapor-Age, I just used a sharp nail to punch my holes. Works great and doesn't take much to force to punch them at all! I just got the Punch/Jig set to help mke make sure I didn't punch too deep.

 

[Levitas]

No, not even close The jonboy lava tanks are pieces of art. Here is an example:

So, they perform differently? Which performs better?

 

[ksmith]

I too am a big fan of the JonBoyUSMC tanks. Up to now, I have only used CE2 tank and have had pretty good success with them. I have 2 map tanks and 2 of the earlier JonBoy tanks. The map tanks work good as long as you don't lay them on their side - this will cause flooding and gurgling. The JonBoy tanks are completely different however. I have one filled with e-liquid that has been on it's side for over a week yet and it has yet to leak a drop. I also have one of his Lava tanks headed my way. His newer tanks use cartomizers but can also use CE2's with just a minor modification (cutting a short piece of tubing and placing it in the top cap. JonBoy does a really nice job making his tanks and IMHO are at the top of the tank market, however demand is high for them right now. Last batch of 30 tanks sold out in about 2 minutes or less.

 

[Devonmoonshire]

I too am a big fan of the JonBoyUSMC tanks. Up to now, I have only used CE2 tank and have had pretty good success with them. I have 2 map tanks and 2 of the earlier JonBoy tanks. The map tanks work good as long as you don't lay them on their side - this will cause flooding and gurgling. The JonBoy tanks are completely different however. I have one filled with e-liquid that has been on it's side for over a week yet and it has yet to leak a drop. I also have one of his Lava tanks headed my way. His newer tanks use cartomizers but can also use CE2's with just a minor modification (cutting a short piece of tubing and placing it in the top cap. JonBoy does a really nice job making his tanks and IMHO are at the top of the tank market, however demand is high for them right now. Last batch of 30 tanks sold out in about 2 minutes or less.

I dunno, my CE2 MAP Tank did not Leak when I laid it on it's side. The Dual Coil MAP Tank is completely different though. It uses a Real Carto, not a CE2. I did some digging and the only Real difference is that the Jonboy Tanks come in an assortment of colors and from what I can tell the Drip Tip and Top Cap are one piece. Is that correct because I definitely prefer the option of changing my Drip Tip out on the MAP DCT.

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[Dudeman]

Simply put, a tank is a tank, is a tank. They all do the same thing. Some hold different carto's, some are pretty colors, some are available in SS.

As far as flavor and carto's, I prefer CE2's. They are about as close as you can get to an atty taste wise. I don't care what anyone says, the filler does alter the taste in DC and Boge cartos, and I used Boge exclusively for over a year everywhere but at home.

With all the XL, XXL, XXXL carto's available now, I don't totally understand the point in buying a 3ml tank at this point of the game.

That being said, until I can get a stainless tank for close to the price of a Delrin one, I'll stick to my MAP tanks.

 

[Levitas]

Ah ha, so my original assumptions would correct then? The Jon tank functions no differently than the liquinator? I care not for how it looks. It could be hot pink for all I care, I want it to work and work well is all. I don't need stainless steel, although it would look stunning on the ProVari but at this point, I am undecided on a MAP tank and the standard liquinator.

Dudeman brings his opinion and says that the ce2 tastes far more like an atty than that of a DC or standard filler-type carto (which I do agree, the filler does make some juices, one juice in particular, Boba's Bounty taste a little different... which happens to be my all day vape and what will be going in the tank).

I don't really need a monster of a tank, but I won't disregard one either. If I were to order a pack of ce2s, would I be able to use them without a tank and have a good idea on how they would taste/work? Or, does having a ce2 in a tank alter its function? I obviously already know what the filler-type cartos are like and I can imagine having a tank to keep it consistently wet would be excellent. But, my original and ultimate goal, if possible, is to have it taste as close to dripping as feasible.

Again and again, I thank you all for your input.

 

[OttoBahn]

Thought I'd add my pre-tank-purchase thoughts.

The purpose of my getting a tank is to not have to keep reloading cartomizers - call me lazy (guess I am) but it's often just not convenient. My (now) everyday PV is a tiny 5v box mod - perfect for grab-n-go (but it's small, and delicate - like a flower..aww ).

Did opt for Jason's 3.x ml J-Tank ($19.xx at electronicstix.com) for the following reasons:

• Size (3.x ml); the 5.x ml tanks out there would likely be too big for my purpose.
• Cost ($20) not overly expensive.
• Build quality - based on some reviews (doesn't leak or move around; it just sits there and does its job).
• Inherent ability to use different non-specialized cartomizers (this cuts out most other tanks)

Yes - I'll have to punch holes in cartomizers, and its not the prettiest girl in school; but for me, it should work just fine.

Down the road - when/if I acquire more stylish PVs - then I'd look at some things like Jon Boy's Lava Tanks (very pretty) or similar (but still in the punched-carto style). And likely larger as well.

Example of what it should look like on my box (not my box pictured).


photo's source

 

[Dudeman]

Ah ha, so my original assumptions would correct then? The Jon tank functions no differently than the liquinator? I care not for how it looks. It could be hot pink for all I care, I want it to work and work well is all. I don't need stainless steel, although it would look stunning on the ProVari but at this point, I am undecided on a MAP tank and the standard liquinator.

Dudeman brings his opinion and says that the ce2 tastes far more like an atty than that of a DC or standard filler-type carto (which I do agree, the filler does make some juices, one juice in particular, Boba's Bounty taste a little different... which happens to be my all day vape and what will be going in the tank).

I don't really need a monster of a tank, but I won't disregard one either. If I were to order a pack of ce2s, would I be able to use them without a tank and have a good idea on how they would taste/work? Or, does having a ce2 in a tank alter its function? I obviously already know what the filler-type cartos are like and I can imagine having a tank to keep it consistently wet would be excellent. But, my original and ultimate goal, if possible, is to have it taste as close to dripping as feasible.

Again and again, I thank you all for your input.

You can use the CE2's as they are. It's been my experience that they wick a little better in a tank. My only complaint about them is you sometimes have to tip them to get juice to the coil.

I'm not knocking the other tanks in any way. They all that have a slight learning curve and people have had the same problems with ALL of the various tanks available. Leaking, not wicking well and coming apart are complaints I've seen about ALL of them at one point or another.

Trying them will be only way to decide which tank, if any, will work best for you.

 

[Baldr]

To be honest, I've never really liked the Dual coils that much. I guess it's because I never used them enough to fully break them in (I've got a couple laying around here). If it's gonna be a carto tank, I want to use 3.0ohm or 2.0ohm regular Boges, but even then, I think I still prefer dripping. Am I just out of luck?

I think you can use single coil or dual coil in the liquinator. I think any 510 cartomizer will work, as long as you cut a slot in it. I've heard of people poking holes. And of course, vaporesence sells the carto's with the slot already in them.

Slotted 510 Cartomizer

Slotted 510 Dual Coil Cartomizers

Slotted 510 Dual Coil MEGA Cartomizers

I don't have a liquinator, but I've read a lot about them because I'm planning to get one. I think you should be able to use whatever cartomizer you want - it just needs the slot.

 

[OttoBahn]

I think you should be able to use whatever cartomizer you want - it just needs the slot.

That's my understanding as well - the longer cartos would simply stick out the top a bit more - haven't seen anyone complain that the top 'filler' of their carto wasn't kept wet.

 

[Levitas]

For the liquinator type tanks...

... has anyone here tried punching holes in their cartos and the slotted cartos? How does one or the other perform? Are they identical in performance? One better than the other?

For the MAP tanks...

... so, the only difference between using a ce2 and tank is the juice capacity? Are there any other tanks that use the ce2 efficiently? Or does the MAP destroy all other ce2 tanks?

Does anyone have up close pictures of their 'holed' cartomizers?

 

[tyleris12]

For the liquinator type tanks...

... has anyone here tried punching holes in their cartos and the slotted cartos? How does one or the other perform? Are they identical in performance? One better than the other?

I have used both the punched and slotted cartos. I prefer the punched ones, as they seem less likely to flood (cut too deep and liquid will flood the center) and there is no chance of any metal shavings in the filler from cutting with a dremal. As for performance, I'd say pretty close to the same for both, IMHO. I wish I could take a pic for you, but my camera is broken right now.

 

[Levitas]

I have used both the punched and slotted cartos. I prefer the punched ones, as they seem less likely to flood (cut too deep and liquid will flood the center) and there is no chance of any metal shavings in the filler from cutting with a dremal. As for performance, I'd say pretty close to the same for both, IMHO. I wish I could take a pic for you, but my camera is broken right now.

Have you ever tried a ce2 type tank?

 

[ksmith]

If I were to order a pack of ce2s, would I be able to use them without a tank and have a good idea on how they would taste/work? Or, does having a ce2 in a tank alter its function?

Levitas, Yes you can use a regular CE2 outside of a tank to get a good idea how they would taste. I use a XL CE2 to try out new juices all the time. The CE2's do seem to wick alot better being in a larger tank tho.

 

[tyleris12]

Have you ever tried a ce2 type tank?

Yes I have, but I just don't like CE2's, even in a tank. The don't always wick well and I am no good at cleaning/dry burning them, to keep them working good. I can only vape 100% VG, tho it is thinned by the supplier to be as thin as a PG/VG mix, it doesn't do well with the CE2's. With the carto's, I get a good week at least from 1 and then it's just replace and toss the old one. A lot less fussing then with the CE2's, for me at least.