Let's make a list of juices/flavors that crack tanks, ce2's/clearos...

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Elixirliquids lists the following juices as "not safe for tanks": Gummibear, Heaven & Hell (cinnamon with menthol), Rage (hot cinnamon), Deathday Cake, and Cinnamon death. All flavors I would like to try so I ended up ordering some Phiniac tanks that look beautiful and are Pyrex so now I'm free to order what I want..... Also, Ectoplasm - don't know if it will crack the polycarb tanks, didn't leave it in there more than a day, but it will make the tank cloudy and the cloudiness will not go away even after cleaning, it seems to seep into the tank..... Leaves stains and may crack the tank... :evil:
 

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ok i didnt read all the posts but i just had some loranes butterscotch to crack my vision stone
Is it a VS3? Not sure about the 1,2 versions, but I know VS3 will fit in the new VIVI Nova tank. The clear ones are made to withstand more but they are also coming out with metal tanks that they sell by themselves for around $3. They will also work but I like to see the juice.
 

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UPDATE

My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to crack. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.

Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-mods/259319-heres-pic-my-polypropylene-tank.html

The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing, and they come in 8 colors. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. For some reason, vendors are not stating the fact that these are made from polypropylene. IMO this is an excellent selling point that they are missing... These tanks can be used with some XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto, my personal preference.

There is also a thread here on ecf which will show you how to make your own "syringe tank mod". http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...756-homemade-syringe-tank-mod-looks-easy.html

I am personally not familiar with the Vision Stardust type tanks. From what I hear, they are polycarbonate and folks seem to be having the same issues with cracking/frosting.

Also, bear in mind that different vendors may use different ingredients to make the same flavors. So, a flavored e juice you get from one vendor that is safe for yout tank may not be safe from another vendor, or vice versa. For instance, I have no trouble at all with VaporGod strawberry kiwi, but Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake will probably crack a polycarbonate tank. Also, just because a certain juice may crack my polycarbonate tank, it may not crack yours. I don't know why... Clear as mud, huh?

Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:

Any juice that has:

Sour flavors
Malic acid
Citrus acid
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffe cake, this is okay
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
TPA ripe banana flavoring
TPA honeysuckle flavoring
TPA maraschino cherry flavoring
TPA cherry blossom flavoring
TPA root beer flavoring
Mrs. T's strawberry shortcake, snickerdoodle
KBV Hummingbird nectar
mimosa(because of the orange)
cola(because of cinnamon)?
Vapor Renu Teaberry, cherry vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
Vapor Renu Mt. Dew baha blast and Strawberry limeade
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake
Nutmeg
Clove oil
Mt. Dew flavoring
TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
Sassafras
Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
TPA Pineapple flavoring
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
Vaporgod Licorice
VAL Goddess
Lorann Butter Rum flavor
Alien Vision's Pineapple Pulp
ECBlend's Gingerbread, double flavor
Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime
TPA Spearmint flavoring
Honeysuckle
Vaporbomb Fire 'n Ice(cracked tank, melted rubber drip tip)
Honeysuckle
Vaporbomb Sweet Cherry
Vaporbomb Green Apple
Vaporbomb Sun Kissed
Vaporbomb Hot Cinnamon Candy
Vaporbomb Sweet Cinnamon Red Hots
Lorann Peppermint oil
Elixirliquids Gummibear
Elixirliquids Heaven and Hell(cinnamon with menhtol)
Elixirliquids Rage(hot cinnamon)
Elixirliquids Deathday Cake
Elixirliquids Cinnamon Death
DIY Gummibear(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
Elixirliquids Rage(hot cinnamon)
Ectoplasm
Lorann Butterscotch
HellaVapor's Raspberry Winta-green
Perfumer's Apprentice Blueberry(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
Perfumer's Apprentice Blueberry Candy(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
Ecblends banana
Timmy's Double Double from Juicy Clear
Ecblends apple pie
Ecblends cinnamon apple

Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out.

With so many folks using tanks nowadays, let's all contribute here!!

Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.

I will be puting this list into alphabetized categories soon. I realize it is getting long and may be difficult to find what you're looking for. :)
 

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AWESOME job my4 - wonderful update! I use some of these and have switched to mostly glass tanks. I like the phiniacs and now just got one of the Clean Tanks and LUV that too.

One trick I learned from MAP (proceed at your own risk) is to bake/cure poly tank TUBES (only) at 180 degrees for about 90 minutes. THis seems to seal up micro fissures in the tubing edges which can come from the cutting of the tubes. I have found this works much of the time but I have still cracked a couple even after doing this. THus, I am pretty much all glass now. electronicstix also has the J-Tanks also known as Fuel tanks that are made from all delrin. They may not be as pretty as the clear but they are virtually indestructible and very reasonably priced.
 

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Wow! Just discovered, ordered, and received my first clearomizers. I LOVE them!! However, I wish I had read this thread. TV Chocolate Chip Mint, and Dule leche (sp?)...no problems. Put some DIY Flavorshack Tangerine in one this morning...cracked all around by this evening...pout. I wrote my vendor to see if he'll replace it...just got them 2 days ago.
 

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I haven't read this whole thread, so excuse me if this is redundant, but GoodProphets Pineapple fogged and cracked my Vision Stone 3 tank overnight. Strangely, where the wicks were contacting the tank it left undamaged "trails", only fogging where the wicks were not touching the tank.

I used a 20% TPA maraschino cherry DIY juice in a CE3 and a Fluxomizer with no cracking. I saw maraschino on the list but I think these tubes are made with a high polypropylene content.
 
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I put Cinnamon in my Vision Ego Clearomizer about 2 weeks ago and it has fogged up the clear plastic but no cracking. The interesting thing is, that it melted and softened the screw in mouth piece so much that I could scrape the bottom of it off with my fingernails (very soft). So it not only the clear plastic but also the black mouth piece. Cinnamon BAD.
 

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Add ECBlend Rootbeer to the list. It didn't like my Smokeless Image clearo. I wish I found this list earlier as the darn thing was just 2 days old and never saw any juice. Bummer.

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Bizzar, that's so sad...:(

A good guidline to tell if your tank is polycarbonate or polpropylene is by looking at the clarity of the plastic. Whether clear or colored, a polycarbonate tank will appear to be crystal clear. A polypropylene tank will have subtle cloudiness, think of the transparency of a syringe. Thicker polypropylene, like the tubing like this will have almost an etched glass look.

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