Great idea with the torching the compressed coil! However, for threading the wick through, I use a regular sewing needle threader, or a wire folded in half to pull the wick through. A hook could get stuck on a coil.
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Great idea with the torching the compressed coil! However, for threading the wick through, I use a regular sewing needle threader, or a wire folded in half to pull the wick through. A hook could get stuck on a coil.
Chak I'm pretty sure there is one but I can't remember what it was
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That's kinda funny, I did all that, except for the use of a nail. I used reverse action tweezers to hold the coil while torching. The slight gaps near the center post are from turning the post after the coil was attached to get it away from the cap at the other end. The gap in the middle was done with by wiggling the back side of an Exacto knife between coils, it was all compressed together before hand. I still can't explain why I did that since it wicked fine already, other than I read about it somewhere and had little to lose. I used a folded piece of 32g kanthal to thread the wick through, just as you described. On the first try too much of it shredded and it broke halfway in, which is why I lubed it with e-liquid on the next attempt which worked much better. Cheap silica frays very easily, as I'm sure you know.
When I make Protank coils, I wrap the coil around wick and a sewing needle. That only takes one or two minutes. I didn't think that would work with a 17 wrap of 27 gauge. I figured the wick would be crushed and frayed everywhere, and the coil would never look that nice and straight. Yes, the experiments continue... especially the cheap ones. It's only time lost, and it gives my hands something to do while watching How It's Made.
How its made is my favorite show to watch with my kids.
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You know, I have heard a lot of people say that. I can honestly say I have never seen it, then again I haven't really been home much. I will have to see if it is on Netflix and check it out one of these days.
Any particular reason why yall wrap your coils THEN pull the wick through. I've always just laid my wick on a needle then wrapped the coil around it. 4 wraps is a 1.5ohm coil nearly every time. I only ever torch the wick I have that has a funny taste. The others I just wrap and vape. I don't notice any difference at all on them whether it's torched or not.
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Two reasons for me. The nail gives a perfectly shaped coil with no irregularities, and you can get your coils much more compact. Threading the wick through the coil ensures that there is even contact with the coil so that there are no loose areas which lead to hot spots. Using a needle for stability is ok but when you remove the needle, the coil can become loose around the wick. It's just a preference. If what you're doing works for you and you get a great vape, then that is the way to do it.
Agreed. Been wrapping mine for about a year. Only maybe twice ever had a hot spot. I usually compress my 2.5mm wick and wrap it tight around the wick and needle so when you pull the needle out the wick expands. I could see for the micro coils wrapping solely around a nail or needle to get it perfect but man that's alot more work and I'm just not sure it'd improve the vape all that much.
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The only way to know for yourself is to try.
That's not necessarily hardware related topic, and should not be applied to dangerous situations.
Back on topic, I can see how using the the nail head would help get a coil started, but I'm doing well enough wrapping around various straight rods. Yes, I know how that sounds. I wrap the coil around the wick and a pin for some coils, but 17 wraps would never look that straight using that method. BTW, I tried a sewing needle threader first thing, but it wasn't long enough for that coil.
As an experiment, I would like to try stuffing wick through a coffee straw/stirrer and wrapping a coil around that. I'm imagining splitting the straw a bit at one end to create a funnel. It probably won't be skinny enough for a "micro" coil, but it's worth a try. I don't have any of those straws, but they're practically free so I'll give it a try soon. My mind wanders into stupidity at times, but some things work out nicely. Like I said, the only way to know for yourself is to try.
That's not necessarily hardware related topic, and should not be applied to dangerous situations.
Back on topic, I can see how using the the nail head would help get a coil started, but I'm doing well enough wrapping around various straight rods. Yes, I know how that sounds. I wrap the coil around the wick and a pin for some coils, but 17 wraps would never look that straight using that method. BTW, I tried a sewing needle threader first thing, but it wasn't long enough for that coil.
As an experiment, I would like to try stuffing wick through a coffee straw/stirrer and wrapping a coil around that. I'm imagining splitting the straw a bit at one end to create a funnel. It probably won't be skinny enough for a "micro" coil, but it's worth a try. I don't have any of those straws, but they're practically free so I'll give it a try soon. My mind wanders into stupidity at times, but some things work out nicely. Like I said, the only way to know for yourself is to try.
Some people like to tinker. I like to tinker. As for a better vape, there comes a point where the differences become subtle, but with more experience, those subtleties become clearer. I definitely like to experiment with those subtleties.
So I just started using 7x19 ss cable wicks. Performs slightly better than the 7x7 imo. A buddy of mine has just opened my eyes to something amazing. If you unravel the cable slightly you can grab the center of the cable and remove it...making the cable like a straw.
The beauty of this is with the center you can unravel the individual strands to use them as resistance wire. I don't want to be premature but I am using 2 pieces of cable braided together in a 3-4 wrap at 1 ohms for my rsst with Maha ras in it. Anyone who has vaped it should know how dirty burning it is...after about a tank full my wick needs dry burned to remove all the crud build up...it has been a tank full with the ss coil and I have NO build up on my wick or coil yet
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The beauty of this is with the center you can unravel the individual strands to use them as resistance wire. I don't want to be premature but I am using 2 pieces of cable braided together in a 3-4 wrap at 1 ohms for my rsst with Maha ras in it. Anyone who has vaped it should know how dirty burning it is...after about a tank full my wick needs dry burned to remove all the crud build up...it has been a tank full with the ss coil and I have NO build up on my wick or coil yet
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Isn't it bad to heat ss that hot and breathe it in? I read something about it and people were bailing out on using mesh for a while.
I'm not sure why it would be worse than kanthal...only thing I can think of is chromium and kanthal has more chromium than stainless steel does.
If you look up the MSDS sheets for both products kanthal contains between 20 and 23% chromium and 316 ss contains between 16 and 18%
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Actually, I should correct this post to say that I just bought a needle threader to pull the wicks through.
Another reason, if you wrap your coils around a screw you can follow the threading and get the wire evenly spaced. I saw this on YouTube, so don't listen to me - I am far from expert in wrapping coils, as a matter of fact I can count the number of successful coils I done on two hands.
What he said...
You've got much more experience than I do, Dantes... Go with what you know.
Actually, I started out with mesh and haven't even done just silica. Then I found wrapping SS cable to be easier then that.
Pretty sure Xfoo said this, but I rolled a new wick yesterday with a much smaller hole in the middle. I used a needle instead of a paper clip. It wicks noticeably better.
I'm posting this because a couple peeps wanted to see it. It's a modded Sigelei #19 (with matching AGA-T2) which I intend to sell in the near future. What I did to it was: I flattened the top cap (removed the chamfer) and polished all parts to a high shine. I removed both stock magnets. I replaced the positive connector with an all-brass #6 bolt and slotted the pin end for air flow and to allow for external adjustment using a screwdriver. I tapped the brass cup (which once held a magnet) and threaded it with a #6 brass bolt. I flattened the top of the bolt to allow for maximum battery contact. I custom cut a piece of brass sheet to fit inside the switch which maintains a negative ground with the housing. This eliminates any misfires. I replaced the stock button spring with a custom wound copper hot spring. I reduced the button throw to around 1-2mm and lightened the tension. It's buttery smooth. When all the contacts are freshly cleaned, I measure a 0.37v voltage drop on a 0.7ohm coil using an 18350 battery. That's impressive. After all that, I baked the battery tube and the locking ring in the oven at 600 degrees for an hour to get an even light yellow bronze finish. I did the same to the AGA-T2 base and top cap. It will be sold as a set. Here's the pix.
Here's what it looks like stock:
I do visit this thread from time to time. And only stopped by because I saw GT post!! Hi GT!!!! Been missing you lots
But anyway.... Seriously SWEET what you did with that, X!!!!
I haven't rolled mesh wicks in a while, but when I did, I found that the more solid the wick, the better. Glad it's working out, GT.
So I made a new mesh wick for the Genny this afternoon using some newly arrived Kanthal 30ga. I have 4 wraps (same as the 32 ga I used prior) and my resistance dropped from 1.6+ to 1.2 ohms. I have my Provari set at 3.5 volts (10.2 watts). It's producing plenty of vapor. I may tweak the wattage a smidge but it seems pretty close as is. The lower resistance makes a significant difference it how quickly the coils fire. Liking it so far.
Mmmm hmmm. That's how it starts. Then we go, "I think I'll try 28 gauge on a mech". Then you're at 1ohm @ 4 volts which is 16 watts. And we're like, "Wow! That's some good vape thar!". Then you remove a wrap and you're at .8ohms, and then the magic happens. Rainbows and ponies, my friend. Rainbows and ponies.
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