Lets talk ZNA 30
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I like the form factor of the 18490 tube and don't mind carrying around a couple 490 battery's. It would have been cool if you had the tube size choice at purchase.
That was me. And yeah, the 3D is a great design. The little tank under it only holds about a ml or so but it's just enough to get you where you're going on like short drives and such. Don't have to get the bottle out. It's easy to build on and has a great flavor. The clone is a good clone. It has little things that make it less than perfect. I've pretty much decided I'm gonna eventually grab a real one. It's that good a design.
Great! Thanks for the reply. I want to grab the real one also but didn't want to drop $155 + $ for the 510 adaptor without knowing if I'd like it or not. I figured $60 is worth the experiment then grab the real one at a later date. How is the build quality?
Just recently received a ZNA & to me it's several things ..
It's pure magic w / a Russian 91, prefect fit, sublime vape. Yum squared.
It's very, very well made .... looks like it & really feels like it.
It's beautiful in a 'butterface' kind of way.
It's .. not really very expensive. What ? 279.00 Huh ?
We've all gotten used to Chinese made products that perform adequately & cost very little. We've set the bar fairly low in many respects. Zen walks the walk & few, if any compromises are evident regarding the ZNA.
Given the level of fit & finish, the materials used, the method of manufacture, warranty, USA origin & so forth, the 279.00 price point is actually more than fair in IMO. The buying public agrees as evidenced by the fact that they sell out in an instant when available.
It's all about the firing lever / button. Brilliant, a design triumph.
It's a wonderfully conceived & manufactured PV, likely the state of the art currently. One just feels good while using it.
The one & only ( albeit significant ) downside is the weight. It's obese. Should've been titanium, Mike could've charged 1000.00 for 'em & been able to justify it.
It's just not a very practical carry around device due to it's heft, but it is terrific at home & as a bonus, one could use it to drive some nails in a pinch .... & then have a vape.
It's pure magic w / a Russian 91, prefect fit, sublime vape. Yum squared.
It's very, very well made .... looks like it & really feels like it.
It's beautiful in a 'butterface' kind of way.
It's .. not really very expensive. What ? 279.00 Huh ?
We've all gotten used to Chinese made products that perform adequately & cost very little. We've set the bar fairly low in many respects. Zen walks the walk & few, if any compromises are evident regarding the ZNA.
Given the level of fit & finish, the materials used, the method of manufacture, warranty, USA origin & so forth, the 279.00 price point is actually more than fair in IMO. The buying public agrees as evidenced by the fact that they sell out in an instant when available.
It's all about the firing lever / button. Brilliant, a design triumph.
It's a wonderfully conceived & manufactured PV, likely the state of the art currently. One just feels good while using it.
The one & only ( albeit significant ) downside is the weight. It's obese. Should've been titanium, Mike could've charged 1000.00 for 'em & been able to justify it.
It's just not a very practical carry around device due to it's heft, but it is terrific at home & as a bonus, one could use it to drive some nails in a pinch .... & then have a vape.
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Titanium? Sounds good in theory but the increase in cost, time of manufacture, wear on tools, there would probably be eight people who had one at this point. I'd rather have it in reasonable materials with 800+ units out. I do think there could have been some weight loss somewhere on the PV, the wall thickness of the ZNA body seems like there could be room for it but I am sure there is a reason for it.
I have actually wondered about having grooves machined into the body and the tube to remove weight, when the warranty runs out of course.
I have actually wondered about having grooves machined into the body and the tube to remove weight, when the warranty runs out of course.
Yea, the titanium comment was a bit tounge-in-cheek, not a viable alternative for various reasons.
One upside of the stainless composition is that the unit doesn't have a top heavy bias once an atty is attached.
After using the ZNA for a couple days, I wanted to compare the overall vape to another mod I have ; a full aluminum sized bottom feeder w / 18650 power. I picked up the other device & it felt so comparatively light that I was sure that the battery must be out of it ... it wasn't.
One upside of the stainless composition is that the unit doesn't have a top heavy bias once an atty is attached.
After using the ZNA for a couple days, I wanted to compare the overall vape to another mod I have ; a full aluminum sized bottom feeder w / 18650 power. I picked up the other device & it felt so comparatively light that I was sure that the battery must be out of it ... it wasn't.
I agree 100% i don't think $279 is that bad for the quality of the PV. Provari's cost like 180 bucks and they are made in china, came out years ago, has one button, can't sub ohm, can't vw. Thats the mod i don't understand why it still commands such a high price still. I'm not hating on provari's I think there solidly built devices but anyone who says they are not antiquated (at least some what) and over priced is crazy.
I am pretty sure the provari isn't made in China. Here is a post I found from them circa 2012:
The ZNA plays a funny story in my life..
I had a hana mini v3 dna30 right when they first came out.. Loved it and planned to never let it go..
The ZNA I knew for sure I didn't want and wasn't planning on buying.. As time went on I figured I would try and order one just for kicks to see what was so exciting..
Finally got one.. First day or so I was thrown off by its weight, couldn't stand the fact it weighed so much.. Also the 18490 worried me along with the non adjustable top cap..
Few more days pass and I made everything sit flush on the zna by giving the screw on the back side of the top cap and half turn or so.. 18490 was lasting me a decent amount of time but what I liked most was bring able to swap batteries on the fly.. And the weight started to feel natural.. My hana mini was feeling like a toy when I used it...
Today? Well I sold off my Hana (people think I am nuts) and kept my ZNA.. Picked up a 18650 tube that I swap around with my 18490 depending on where I am at..
The verdict? I feel after spending time with both the hana mini v3 and the zna, even though the hana is a great mod.. that the zna is more worth the price due to build quality and options.. Once again this is opinion..
Also keep in mind that I swore to myself I would never buy another Zen product again..
So I went from not wanting anything to do with Zen anymore to owning a ZNA and choosing it over my hana v3 and it being my main device..
I do own a hana v2 dna20 that has the limited black finish that I still love but honestly think the zna offers more for the price..
Funny how this all played out for me..
I had a hana mini v3 dna30 right when they first came out.. Loved it and planned to never let it go..
The ZNA I knew for sure I didn't want and wasn't planning on buying.. As time went on I figured I would try and order one just for kicks to see what was so exciting..
Finally got one.. First day or so I was thrown off by its weight, couldn't stand the fact it weighed so much.. Also the 18490 worried me along with the non adjustable top cap..
Few more days pass and I made everything sit flush on the zna by giving the screw on the back side of the top cap and half turn or so.. 18490 was lasting me a decent amount of time but what I liked most was bring able to swap batteries on the fly.. And the weight started to feel natural.. My hana mini was feeling like a toy when I used it...
Today? Well I sold off my Hana (people think I am nuts) and kept my ZNA.. Picked up a 18650 tube that I swap around with my 18490 depending on where I am at..
The verdict? I feel after spending time with both the hana mini v3 and the zna, even though the hana is a great mod.. that the zna is more worth the price due to build quality and options.. Once again this is opinion..
Also keep in mind that I swore to myself I would never buy another Zen product again..
So I went from not wanting anything to do with Zen anymore to owning a ZNA and choosing it over my hana v3 and it being my main device..
I do own a hana v2 dna20 that has the limited black finish that I still love but honestly think the zna offers more for the price..
Funny how this all played out for me..
Yup, the Provari is made in the U.S. I believe the only things about it that are outsourced are a few of the solid state components on the board inside. As far as I'm concerned the Provari is a perfect device, if you use it as it was intended. A Z-Atty Pro with a 2.2 ohm 32 gauge coil around 400 SS mesh in the ZAP on a Provari set at about 4.2-4.3 volts is Nirvana. One of the best vapes I've ever had (especially with Boba's Bounty in it). Subohming has it's place. I for one do not like it. I can get just as much flavor out of a carto and sometimes better flavor from the carto. Just set everything up right. Never did chase clouds except as an experiment. Meh. And maf2k8, you're spot on with your description of the ZNA. I love Zen~ products so that part of your comments don't apply to me. But everything you said about the ZNA is spot on. To end this little box standing session, the Provari is worth every dime you pay for it. Provape has fantastic customer support. Doesn't cost much to get your device repaired if you ever manage to break it (and believe me, I've given mine plenty of opportunities to break). The ZNA, heck mine is perfect. And lastly, if you ever have to get in touch with Zen~, you will talk to Mike. Perfect customer support. I know this all sounds like fanboi speak, but it's not. Great products they both are. Nuff Said.
This kind of comment about a Provari is usually made by people who have never seen(except in pictures and videos) or held and used a provari. I am willing to bet you are one of those people.
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Sorry, couldn't resist.
Thats a good look'in couple there.
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Honestly, I had every intention of flipping the ZNA on flea bay, figured I'd pretty much pay for the protovapor dna 20 I ordered & that would be my go-to device going forward.
After using the ZNA for just one afternoon - couldn't bring myself to do it. It's a pretty luxurious PV to be sure, not willing to give it up.
Ya know the part I find funniest about the provari discussion is the root of it. Brekec88 I have personally discussed the provari with mike aka zen and he owns a few himself, he basically said provari is the bar for success on variable devices in the industry and holds provape with high esteem. The ZNA is easily the best device I have ever owned or used and yes I've owned 3 provaris for comparison, but trying to say the provari is cheap, foreign, overpriced or anything along those lines is out of line. The provari may have things that are weaknesses but every single device on the market does.
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I never said they were cheap, there built like tanks. I did think they were outsourced and built in China, I was wrong. I swear someone told me that once, makes a little more sense why there $200 i guess.
LMAO I have several friends that have them and I have used them for a good amount of time. I could care less if you think I have or haven't used a provari. What i said is they are antiquated (which apparently you don't know what that means). They aren't bad devices but they use old technology, this is just fact. They cost almost $200 and I don't think there worth it. If you do more power to ya. Don't be mad because I don't like your favorite mod....it'll be ok, I promise.
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Yea the ZNA is a heavy little guy for sure. At first I thought it was t0o heavy, after using it for 2 weeks everything else feels light
I love how small that hana mini is but IMO I want a swappable battery in something that can do up to 30 watts. Thats the biggest reason I wen't with it over the ZNA (that and its the best looking mod I've ever seen)Also , why did you swear off Zen products (just curious)?
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You're welcome to your opinion, no skin off my teeth. I'm not going to get dragged into trading insults with other posters, but for you to have believed that provaris are made in china, proves that you lack even a cursory knowledge of a provari.
Yea once I learned about the one button menu, 3 year old design, no vw, can't fire under 1.4 and the $200 price tag I suddenly stopped wanting to learn any more additional information about it.
Sorry guys but my vote is for the Provari. The one thing I hate about the ZNA is that you can't build a coil on it. I like to know what resistance my coils are before I use it and the ZNA does not allow to just check the resistance of a coil without firing it. I find my self always reaching for the Povari to build my coils, then I place it on the ZNA. If I was stranded on an island and had to chose one, I'd go for the Provari as it is more of an overall tool.
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