FDA Letter from senator Dianne Feinstein

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I received the same form letter from DiFi... This is what I wrote back to her (anyone want to bet I get the same form letter in reply, if so I have a couple of bridges in SF to sell you):

Dear Senator Feinstein and staff,

Please read and comment on the comments I sent to the FDA that are included below. I am a real person and constituent who votes. The FDA proposed regulations are driven entirely by tobacco companies and pharmaceutical companies who have lots to lose. I am a real person who has a lot to lose also, my life! I would appreciate a response by a real person, not a computer generated form letter.

Thank you,

My Name
My City, CA
A real constituent, not a computer driven form letter.

This is what I sent to the FDA for their request for comments (I have also attached the comment I wrote as the formatting below is terrible):

From: My Name
To: FDA Center for Tobacco Products
RE: FDA, Docket No. FDA-2014-N-0189, Regulatory Information Number (RIN) 0910- AG38
24 July 2014

I am a consumer of electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes or e-cigs) and a member of the Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association (CASAA). Like millions of others we are the primary stakeholders whom these regulations will affect. As written these regulations will hurt me, the person you are trying to protect. The regulations will hurt me financially as well as physically. The regulations will drive up the costs of equipment and liquid to the point where I could not afford to use electronic cigarettes any longer which would affect me physically by most likely driving me to smoking again.

The FDA exists to protect me the consumer, but these regulations appear to protect large corporations not the consumer. There appears to be no consideration of us consumers in these regulations. The impact statement only considers impact on industry and the effects on the consumer are ignored by the FDA and the so called public health community.

I am 58 years old and smoked for over 40 years until I discovered e-cigarettes last December. In the past I tried the FDA approved devices such as gum and patches, but they did not work for me. Yes they provided nicotine, but that is not the whole picture. That picture also includes the physical routine of picking up a cigarette inhaling and exhaling the smoke. Since I have started using e-cigarettes the cigarette has been replaced with my advanced personal vaporizer and smoke with vapor.
I started my journey using the devices the size of a cigarette. They were OK, but they were not going to replace a cigarette for me. The battery only lasted 1 to 2 hours before needing to be charged. The cartridge containing the liquid would last only a little longer and really did not taste good. If I continued to use the cigarette sized devices it would cost more than smoking a real cigarette. They did do one thing well, that was to get me to research more advanced devices. When I purchased my first advanced device I went from smoking one pack a day to four cigarettes a day. Within two weeks it was zero cigarettes. I have been tobacco free for 7 months now all thanks to advanced electronic cigarettes.

The flavors available are also one thing that keeps me using e-cigs. If I could only vape tobacco flavor or menthol flavor I would probably return to smoking. Flavors are not used to market to minors, adults like flavor believe it or not. Yes, I agree that e-cigs should not be sold to minors at all.

My health has improved since I started using e-cigs. I used to wheeze and cough a lot and my wife would worry about me. Since I have started using e-cigs my wheezing and coughing have stopped. I recently went to a doctor for a check-up and he told me my lungs sound normal. Before e-cigs I would actively seek out elevators even for one change in floors. I recently had to work at a place in Singapore, on a business trip, where the elevator was out of order and the office I needed to go to was on the fifth floor. If I was still smoking I am sure I would have had to stop many times in that climb, but I was able to climb those 80 stairs without problems.

If these regulations go into effect without changes I see three choices for myself: return to smoking cigarettes, stop vaping, or start making my own liquids. I don't want to start smoking again, but that may happen with these regulations. Stopping use of electronic cigarettes, this is an option but not likely in my case. The most likely option would be for me to make my own liquid. I will purchase the needed ingredients prior to the implementation of the regulations in large enough quantities to last several years. I have already started to purchase purely mechanical devices that do not require anything more than batteries, wicking material, and resistance wire. I feel that a lot of current vapers will choose this option. I guess that would make me a criminal for trying to stay off cigarettes.

My life and millions of others lives have become part of a political game and we are just pawns. The power brokers in the big companies, government, and un-caring activists are moving the pieces with no concern for "We the People". The problem is this is not supposed to be a game. We are talking about the health and well-being of millions of people here. Please do not send me and millions of others back to cigarettes or turn us into criminals for trying to stay off cigarettes!
 

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I've been reading a lot about this lately and it scares and disappoints me on what the FDA is trying to do here. Absolutely wrong!

On a side note, I think it's awesome that you all wrote several comments and letters to senators, congress, etc...what an awesome community we have here! I believe this will have an impact on the results and decision making...hopefully in a positive manner.
 

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When I received the final call to action from CASAA my adrenaline went up and I started typing like a maniac. I prepped my comments so that I could cut and paste them quickly into the online FDA comments form, linked by CASAA. I used CASAA guidelines for content and length of comments, and tried to remain as coherent as possible. I post my comments here only in case they will help anybody who wants to use them, borrow from them, paraphrase them or otherwise benefit from them:

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I used the electronic cigarette to quit tobacco cigarettes for good. I used to smoke a pack a day, and have not had a cigarette in 20 months. I am so happy to be free of a habit that was ruining my health. The propylene glycol in the nicotine liquid, a carrier which is used in medical inhalers too, seems to have cleared up some old, nasty processes in my lungs. Things I tried many times in the past, the nicotine gum, the patch, did not work, and I knew a healthy young person who died mysteriously in her sleep while using Chantix, so I did not want to use it. Quitting via the ecig, I didn’t even gain weight, which is always a worry when you stop smoking. Friends ask me if the next step is to stop vaping. I do not intend to stop vaping any more than I intend to stop drinking coffee. Vaping saved my life, and does not harm me. I believe in the tested and proven benefits of nicotine in the prevention of the cognitive diseases of old age, among other positive health outcomes of what is, after being divorced from burning plant matter, carbon monoxide and 150 dangerous additives, simply a mild stimulant.

I do not use a “cigalike”, never did, and don’t want them. My friends, who also quit smoking by using the ecig, recommended Ego-T batteries with clearomizers, and that is what I used, still use, and I add the nicotine juice myself. At first I only wanted tobacco flavors, but gradually came to enjoy the many, many flavors of ejuice you can get. I no longer even enjoy tobacco flavors. I never, ever crave cigarettes any more.

If the ecig were taken off the market or taxed enough to become unaffordable, I do fear that I would go back to cigarettes, unless I should be able to make my own modified ecigs and brew my own ejuice. In the face of these proposed regulations, I have been searching online for how to extract nicotine juice from tobacco. If my taxes are used against me to make it impossible for me to get the vaping supplies I need, and there comes a black market for them, I will break the law to purchase what I need.

With so many jobs being offshored to other countries over these many years, I have delighted in seeing so many shops and labs and jobs established here in our own country for the making and distribution of ecigarettes, ejuices and vaping accessories. The ecig has had a positive effect on our economy. Many people have made whole new careers on this wonderful 21st century miracle. The suppliers compete with each other, have mad sales, and I can always get what I want affordably.

The idea that children will get addicted to nicotine because of the fruit and dessert ejuice flavors is akin to a notion that children will buy liquors because they come in cherry, orange and chocolate flavors. No seller that I know of markets or sells to minor children.

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I wrote my congress people but the replies were so canned and so dis-engaged that I didn't save them. I think they're all looking at $$$ for the tax tills, no matter how they actually feel about ecigs and vaping.

Yeah... The Allure of Potential Tax Dollars is Huge.

Also, it is Easy to Jump on the "We have to Ban e-Cigarette Bandwagon when you Know they ARE NOT going to be Banned.

That way you come out on top Both Ways. Get your Tax Dollars and be on Record that you Opposed e-Cigarettes.
 

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Get your Tax Dollars and be on Record that you Opposed e-Cigarettes.
The only way to stop that is to make sure that opposing e-cigarettes is a BAD thing on your record.

We've had years to make that case, and we are losing badly.
And that is primarily because of the mainstream media.

It is clear to me now that mainstream "news" is nothing more than a load of crap.
 

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The only way to stop that is to make sure that opposing e-cigarettes is a BAD thing on your record.

We've had years to make that case, and we are losing badly.
And that is primarily because of the mainstream media.

It is clear to me now that mainstream "news" is nothing more than a load of crap.

The Media is Tool. We just aren't using it very Well

What Needs to happen is for Someone in the Media who is Relative Un-Biased, or Dem Biased, to send Feinstein and Boxer Studies like the Drexel Study and the London Report.

Then Stick a Microphone in her face and ask... "Why do you Keep saying that e-Cigarettes are so Hazardous. Haven't you Read the Drexel Study? Or the UK Health Ministry Report?".
 

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Yes, that is what we need. But we don't seem to have the "means" to make that happen.

It Always struck me as Odd that there was Never and effort by California e-Liquid Retailers to Band Together and Write a Scathing Letter to Diane F and Boxer with about 30 Signatures on the Bottom of it.

And then send a Copy of the Letter to EVERY Local California Newspaper/Media Outlet.
 

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Did you really EXPECT an intelligent answer from Feinstein? She's a dumb twit. Californians worship this idiot. They're only saving grace is the old bag is 81. She is a perfect example why we need TERM LIMITS. BUT, rest assured, there is someone other leftist NUT BAG waiting in the wings, just salivating for the chance to carry the torch.:glare: I'm stepping out the side door on this one.
 

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Did you really EXPECT an intelligent answer from Feinstein? She's a dumb twit. Californians worship this idiot. They're only saving grace is the old bag is 81. She is a perfect example why we need TERM LIMITS. BUT, rest assured, there is someone other leftist NUT BAG waiting in the wings, just salivating for the chance to carry the torch.:glare: I'm stepping out the side door on this one.

Please do Not Lump All Californians into the "I Love Diane F" group.

There are Plenty of People in California that would like Nothing More than getting her OUT OF OFFICE. Any Office.
 

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Please do Not Lump All Californians into the "I Love Diane F" group.

There are Plenty of People in California that would like Nothing More than getting her OUT OF OFFICE. Any Office.
But seriously...

How did we elect Diane Feinstein AND Barbara Boxer?
How? Seriously?

How many Socker Moms are there in California.

Yeah, I went there.
 

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But seriously...

How did we elect Diane Feinstein AND Barbara Boxer?
How? Seriously?

How many Socker Moms are there in California.

Yeah, I went there.

Last I Checked you Didn't Need EVERY Person in a State to be Elected to the House or Senate.

You just Need More People to Check the Box next to your Name after believing the Lies and Give-Away promises that the Boxer's and Diane F have Spewed.

I have spent a Good Part of my Adult Life trying to Keep Diane F from holding Another office. Starting with her in SF.
 

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Not trying to lump you into the group there Z. Geographically by miles, California is actually VERY red. Just not in the right places. SF and LA screwed your state for good. Your only hope for Diane is old age. But till that day comes, keep checking the R box. In your state, I'd vote for a skunk wearing a suit if he wasnt a dem.

(I was working out in LA in 2008 during november. After election night, I didn't leave my hotel room for 2 days! A fifth of captain morgan helped me over that debacle!)
 

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I saw that someone already posted .... Durbin's response so I won't re-post that. Here's the response I got from my state representative Jan Schakowsky last March:




Dear Ms. Minor :

Knowing of your interest in e-cigarettes, cigars, and other tobacco products, I would like to provide you with a Congressional update.

While e-cigarettes and cigars are considered tobacco products, the existing law does not explicitly apply to them. Under the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was given the authority to cover other tobacco, including hookah, electronic cigarettes, cigars, and future tobacco products. The FDA has announced intent to issue this regulation soon.

I support FDA moving forward with that regulation . There are serious health risks associated with tobacco products, and I believe pe ople should be made aware of tho se risks. I am also concerned that manufacturers of these products are targeting young people , using many of the same techniques that are outlawed for use by cigarette manufacturers. I am committed to warning people about the health consequences associated with tobacco product and preventing teenagers from using tobacco products. As you may know, Chicago and other cities are already taking similar action.

I hope that you found this information helpful. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can ever be of assistance.



Sincerely,


Jan Schakowsky
Member of Congress


P.S. I've created an Email Newsletter to provide periodic updates on a variety of issues. You can sign up for it by going to my website at Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky : Enewsletter
 

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I tried to submit the form you have linked and its says could not connect. too many connections
Call to Action!
Free to Vape organization has on their site a form to fill out so the FDA and your state reps will get either printed copies or faxes of a form stating YOUR position on e-cigs.
Let's all get going on this.
Link is;
Free to Vape - Take Action
 
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