Literally about to give up vaping

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jfalbanese

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suck it up. nothing including life is perfect. you sound like the addict on "intervention" negotiating around his/her addiction. so your other option is lung cancer. yep. you'll show those no good vaping merchants. deal with adversity. what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. don't you realize it's your old friend mr tobacco telling you all those things. stop being such a (insert appropriate expletive here) saving your life is not cheap, but well worth the effort.
 

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Youre not ready to quit. You assumed that it was someone here's responsibility to give you a reason, as if someone here had an interest in you personally quitting. Pretty immature. The help is here if you have questions or need support but I think people were super nice to deal with your childish rants the way they did, because at the end of the day, youre your own responsibility and you were being pretty confrontational about it. If you want to quit you will. If you dont, you wont. Nobody owes it to you to give you reasons to save your own life, thats where you got it twisted.

I started vaping and loved it instantly, I havent been tempted to smoke at all since I found out there was something better in every way, so maybe I just dont understand where youre coming from. But then I wanted to quit for me, this was the way to do it easily. If I didnt really want to I could probably see vaping as inferior to smoking or something. I smoked for 20 years though, I was done a while ago, I just didnt have a viable alternative, and vaping was it. Maybe when you get to the same point youll stop looking for excuses to keep smoking and start looking for logical reasons why you would want to continue burning tobacco and chemicals and sucking in ash for your nic.
 
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So I'm coming back to my old thread from back in the day. What I can say about vaping then and now is this: there is a learning curve and in some cases a learning cliff and it all comes down to whether the vaper wants this to help them quit or wants this to become a hobby. I went the hobby route and it took me to some pretty dark places of anguish and despair. But I finally got to the top of the cliff and can now happily say vaping is one of the most versatile and fun hobbies out there. Now instead of my vape controlling me, I control my vape. So to anyone I scared by posting this, I apologize. I won't come post here saying that my vape is perfect or that after a few months it clicked and I was good from there. I'm still learning and still cursing. But now I know enough about what needs to be known to make this hobby reasonable. My one piece of advice if you want to quit smoking: Get something simple and reasonably enjoyable while you work down your nic levels. My advice for hobbyists: learn everything you can about ohms law, learn how juices are made, learn what the mah conversion is, learn the difference between volts and watts, learn that buying middle of the road mods means you get a middle of the road product, and watch everything pbusardo does on his website tasteyourjuice.com. Also if you've found something you love, don't stop there. Keep trying new things because one day or two months of your vape life will suck because something continuously goes wrong with your setup. Also. If you get on here for information, only do it in stints because everyone has a different account on how these things work and its hard to know who to trust. This is a hobby that will replace other hobbies because it is expensive, it is time consuming, and it is extremely rewarding. There was a moment when I finally had my first PERFECT vape. I haven't had it since so I'm now researching on how to get back there. Bliss in vaping only remains bliss for no more than 2 months at a time. So never stop vaping and never stop making the decisions that you believe will lead you to a better vape.

Just a reminder to read his last post before commenting on his first post...lol.
 

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Hahaha dirty diaper. It's like Crash Moses said. I have come back and posted new thoughts. I was being a little childish back then but I defend that poor and sad little vaper. He was lost and couldn't figure out how to get the information he needed and really didn't want to go back to smoking. So haters, keep hatin it's cool. There's helpers and non-helpers.
 

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I'm still stuck on the statement that Vaping is "quite a bit more expensive" than smoking...

Bolt - about $30
2 batteries - $16/yr
Charger - around $20
510 LR Atty - maybe $5/mo
Drip Tip - $5
Juice - < $10/week

That's Like $650 the 1st year... $550/yr after that...
I personally spent over $2,000/yr smoking.

Sure the "hardware" cost goes up if you start getting into high end mods...
But the "software" cost goes down if you start DIY or using RBAs.

There is no definitive answer... It CAN be less expensive... it CAN also be more expensive...
 

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Hahaha dirty diaper. It's like Crash Moses said. I have come back and posted new thoughts. I was being a little childish back then but I defend that poor and sad little vaper. He was lost and couldn't figure out how to get the information he needed and really didn't want to go back to smoking. So haters, keep hatin it's cool. There's helpers and non-helpers.

my biggest concern is that a new vaper, reading your post, will give up... that they won't read far enough to see your update.

After all that's what this forum is for... helping people get answers... we all had questions at one time.

Think you could go back and edit that post? Just put a note on top with a link to This (you recent update):
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ally-about-give-up-vaping-22.html#post9074702
 

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OK, I couldn't read all of the 23 pages. 7 in and I feel you pain. I bought my devices at a B&M and I must be a lucky one because although their knowledge is limited they really are trying to help me find what works for me. My best advice is to:
1) vap different flavors throughout the day so you don't get vapors tongue.
2) Don't GIVE UP! There is so much info out there it can be confusing.
3) Find what works for you (you don't have to spend a ton of money to do it either)
4) Stay away from the B&M stores unless you know what you want, I mean exactly what you want.
5) A battery is a battery, try a VV you can get online for less then you could in a store (tasteyourjuice.com has excellent reviews)
6) read read read, try the search option or as offered by many PM them, ask for help.

Don't give up. Sometimes it does get frustrating and in the beginning it can be expensive but in the end it is cheaper.
There are lots of people here to help.
 

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I agree your first post needs to be updated. Observant people can tell by the date this was a resurrected thread but as you can tell from the last two pages not everyone is observant. Maybe if you PM'ed the mod he could update it for you with a link to your returning post.
I also felt like vaping was getting too expensive at first. I was buying lots of things trying to find my sweet spot in vaping. I have lots of juice and delivery systems sitting in a drawer I don't like. At one point I did the math and realized in the first two months I did not save any money at all. I didn't spend any more either. What I did have though is an investment in all the vaping toys I needed and from them in I saved a lot of money. See, I think as a new vaper I though I could buy two eGo batteries and 2-3 CE5's and I would be good. It just doesn't work that way. Sure that's all you need to get started but It takes an investment of a couple hundred bucks to be up and running full speed. Several batteries, two chargers, multiple delivery systems, etc. Then you have your ADV you need at least 50ml of at all times. Two or three other flavors you like in 15-30ml just to keep your taste buds fresh. Then you have about 50-100 ml in juice you just don't like lying around. Yea, it all adds up pretty quickly. $5 a day adds up much quicker though(so do lung cancer bills).
 

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I understand. And I get that people can't just tell other people what they like. But you aren't understanding my question. This is all I want: 1. more cloud 2. better taste.

How do I get there.
That's it. Everything else is just me asking about facts and real answers on how this stuff works that doesn't turn into electricity formulas.

More vapor (cloud) comes from more vegetable glycerin (VG) in your juice. It's a tradeoff between VG and PG. VG has the vapor; PG has the more flavor and throat hit (kinda like burning at the back of your throat).

I have had the same issue as you with flavor. I found one, blueberry from Highbrow Vapor, that I can really taste. But, even with that one, I ask them to double up on the flavor. You may want to try Mount Baker Vapor, because they invite you doubling, tripling, or even quadrupling the flavor. They are also comparatively inexpensive. Personally, I'm getting ready to start DIYing (do-it-yourself). Because that way, I figure I'll save money and run a better chance of getting the flavor where I really want it.
 

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If your ego C's are genuine Joyetech, you can take the three batteries that died on you and get replacements without paying any more money. The genuine ego C's from JOYETECH have a 6 month warranty.

What's that you say Willis?????? Now don't be fooling.....I'm a little low on ejuice till the postman gets here in the morning.......and I've got two EgoC's that are bad......less than a month old. Should I just send them to you for replacement?:facepalm: Now you have given me inspiration...:toast: I will call the vendor as soon as my fingers leave the keyboard. thanks
 

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Well, I read all of the first page and was at some point hoping to chime in with whatever kind of advice I could give you, whether or not it be restating what others had said. Then I saw that it was six pages, didn't feel quite up to reading them all, and didn't think there was much I could add. I skipped to the last page and saw where you have returned to vaping and found something at least satisfactory enough to keep you in the vapor clouds and out of the smoke. Ignore the "haters". They evidently read the first post or first page and didn't bother doing their research before deciding to post.

Just as a pointer for future reference, if you have a question or a gripe, post it when you have the chance. Don't let it build and build and build until you're on the edge of a cliff. It's easier for us to answer one question or address one issue at a time. When we see a rant like your original post, some of us think there's not much we can do to help you, or that you're bashing our favorite, life-saving hobby. We usually are pretty responsive in giving out our knowledge and can in general have an answer to you within the hour...although nobody still has answered to my post about what the hell an error 82 is on a LavaTube. I found out nonetheless by doing some reading.

It certainly is an expensive hobby if you treat it that way. I do. But I can't resist collecting different attys and other shiny parts. But it still only costs me about as much or less than smoking, especially if I factor in all the future smoking-related medical expenses I'd have if I didn't quit. I started with a minimal amount of income thinking I'd hardly have a dime to spend on vaping, but getting into it, I find the money from one place or another to support something about which I'm so very enthusiastic.

Again, I'm glad you stayed off the smokes and have returned to the bright side. We all wish you the same success we have.
 

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my biggest concern is that a new vaper, reading your post, will give up... that they won't read far enough to see your update.

After all that's what this forum is for... helping people get answers... we all had questions at one time.

Think you could go back and edit that post? Just put a note on top with a link to This (you recent update):
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ally-about-give-up-vaping-22.html#post9074702

That's a very good point.

That said I think his original post touched on some of the frustrations I've felt myself initially (not all of them but some of them). Folks new to the forum might benefit from some of the pitfalls those who've gone before have experienced.
 

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Here in Belgium we dont have shops. You have to get everything from the net. You have to figure it all out yourself. Ive spend a lot on rubbish I dont even touch anymore. But i am much more healthy today and thats worth a lot to me.Are you sure you only stopped using cigs? Exploding eyes from frustration? Keep it up! soon you will feel a lot better...
 

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I'm like the 2-3 previous posters, I didn't read through the whole thread, but I just want to offer a couple of sentences that may help, I hope. I think you may be doing yourself a disservice by going to the shop. It sounds like the folks there aren't being supportive and that can be a huge put off and taint the whole experience. I didn't see what juice you're using, but this may be the turning point for you. Try Mt Baker's, they have some good juices, you can get extra flavor, and it's cheap so the price is right. If you would be willing to take one more chance or a different device i think this could turn it around for you too. Get a Vamo, you can find them for between 30-40 bucks, then getting incidentals would be another 30-40, 2 batteries, charger, and some other topper- if you haven't tried atomizers, you're missing out. Personally, I love the cheap easy RBA's, phoenix etc- they're around 8-10 bucks, you'll need some silica wick and kanthal, they often come loaded with a coil and wick when you get them- give them a rinse to get manufacturing residue off, then go for it. If you can step back, take some breaths, try a new approach, I think you can find happiness as a vaper. You gotta want it, and be willing to keep trying till you find your niche. The little cheap rebuildables are SO EASY to set up, and give a fantastic vape!!! flavor and plumes you've been dreaming of, and a Vamo is just the cheap vehicle to get you there! Good Luck.

P.S. Everything you need in the way of instructions can be found on You Tube. (you probably already know this :))

Also, Alice in Vapeland has juices that WILL NOT dissapoint!
 
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