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[raqball]

"Detectives" in suits are observant, intelligent people.

Those in inform are ridiculously stupid, pretentious wannabe detectives who just serve to annoy pretty much everyone they meet.

You don't see suited detectives shooting random African Americans to death !.

May as well be talking to geese !.

This has to be one of the dumbest posts I've read on the internet in a while....

Through your 'expertise' I assume you are well aware that detectives are promoted from within the uniformed ranks right?

Next a uniformed street officer has contact with 10-20 times more people on a daily basis than a detective will and those contacts are not in an interview room inside a secured facility..

Please educate yourself before spreading nonsense and making absurd remarks...

 

[vapdivrr]

I pretty much vape freely these days in my vehicle, but 7 years ago it was a different story. Back then I had a mech tube with a big genny tank and not to many around here knew what it was. I use to try and not vape in sight because people thought I was doing crack or something and if a cop would of seen me I for sure would of been pulled over. Now most seem proud of their clouds and blow them everywhere, but back then, not so much . I remember sneaking a vape at a light back then and was seen by a women next to me, her 5 or 6 year old daughter also seen me and the next thing I remember was the mom giving me this nasty face while pulling her daughters face away from seeing me...I felt like a real looser

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[Vaperer]

I haven't had any contact with a law enforcement officer an over 18 years. The way I was taught was telling the truth. But the way I taught my kids is keep quiet and ask for a lawyer. Unfortunately there's not too many officer Friendly's out there. All it takes is One Bad Apple to spoil The Bushel
majority of cops are decent hard workers with a job that I don't want. I didn't know they could test vaping. Food for thought

 

[United States]

I saw my first 'clouder' in spring of this year. My first thought was not about vaping nicotine.

We here at ECF understand what is going on in the vaping community. We are but a small slice of the public at large. A public who does not understand our passion anymore than us ECFr's understand the virtues of E=MC2. So the public (including non vaping police officers) have built in perspectives based on perceptions that may or may not be accurate. Supposedly we are not supposed to judge a book by its cover, right? Yet when we see a youngster with his pants halfway to their ankles do we automatically get a negative feeling? That kid might be a straight A student and captain of the high school football team.
Ok, so same kid dressed in dress cloths in a high end restaraunt, do we automatically assume that lad is a positive member of society and forget that Al Capone was a snappy dresser?

Police these days are bombarded with lawless minded individuals who are angry that McDonalds was out of McNuggets or that some news story told of an "innocent" thug was gunned down like a coyote (after robbing a liquor store and trying to take the officers gun from them).

Just take a day off and go sit in a courtroom for an hour and look at the people facing a judge. Society in America has changed and it aint for the better.

And I've been asked by strangers "what ya smoking?" when I exhaled some vapor in a public setting. They were not asking how much nicotine my pod has, but were wondering if I were one of 'those' people bold enough to catch a buzz in public.

In my hometown there are 2 vape shops that cater to the alternative forms of the daily attitude adjuster. Where I work there are 5 that get raided a couple of times a year by local authorities.

As I travel from town to town I stop in a shop here and there. Some are in a metropolis setting and others in a 1 horse town you can throw a rock from end to end. Most are set up as 'alternative' to the typical 'head shop' yet it's obviously so pervasive these days that it's no wonder if a police officer wants to test the e-juice of a motorist.

Is it fair? Certainly not. But as long as 20% (and growing) of Americans choose to be intoxicated with illegal chemicals it is reality.

 

[stols001]

Um... Yes they can so don't vape anything else in your vape, because like, they will test your blood, take your vape, field sobriety test you (and they have a ton, and test you until you FAIL). My kiddo went through a field sobriety test and that is exactly what they did. He had red eyes from rafting in the Salt River in Mexico but made the mistake of saying he had a card . He passed 3 field sobriety tests (and the police office before Police Supervisor intervened) said he was driving fine and was about to let him go. My kid is good under pressure, but managed to not hold ONE foot up all the way up to his knee while walking heel to toe.

I was annoyed, it was expensive, ultimately it was dismissed. It was a total PITA.

I must be doing something wrong: stopped by motorcycle cop who claimed I "cut him off" in a parking lot going 5 miles per hour. He was also 3 months from retirement, I said (knew I had little to lose at that point) "Well, I was going 5 miles an HOUR I doubt I would have KILLED you. Like a cockroach, the hard carapace of your bike under my car would have alerted me, even HITTING you would have alerted you. But since we were both going 5 miles per hour, I notice a collision was AVOIDED. Also they make these things called bike helmets, you should look into one."

I hate motorcycle cops. Also, I got puled over a lot by the Tribe for not fully stopping at stop signs. That was always kind of fun, because they were a sovereign nation and it didn't count on your record. .I had to rehab ms'self though when I went to see kiddo a juvenile services and a cop there was like, "OOh,... yeah that's Anna, we all know her she zips around too fast and runs stop signs and I Felt Guilt and drove better.

With the windshield crack cop, I was pretty not cooperative. I argued about my windshield. I argued about getting out of the car, and I told him "I have no idea who you are and we are on the highway." He kept saying it was safer, so I finally agreed when he was like, "Don't make me rescue you from your car." I did point out that well, an exit was RIGHT THERE and we could exit but he did not want to "interrupt the stop." He wrote me a ticket for my windshield I t told him it was dumb. he was like, "I don't care." I told him quotas were evil and he just said that my windshield was cracked.

Later on,. someone from my work who drove by thought I was like, FLIRTING with the dude, bur I was SO not. I could see he was meeting his quota and that was that.

I have so many more cop stories but I will say this. "Do not trust your police officer." I hate to say it, but the majority are NOT trustworthy . Our officers are culled from the University of Arizona frat houses. No kidding. I cannot THINK of a less worthy group to mange public safety. Who knows. I don't.

Anna

 

[Opinionated]

anymore than us ECFr's understand the virtues of E=MC2

Hey, hey, hey...

Speak for yourself. ..

 

[raqball]

He wrote me a ticket for my windshield I t told him it was dumb. he was like, "I don't care." I told him quotas were evil and he just said that my windshield was cracked.

I have so many more cop stories but I will say this. "Do not trust your police officer." I hate to say it, but the majority are NOT trustworthy

Quotas are an old and present day false myth...

The majority of police office are trustworthy. If you've had that many negative interactions with Law Enforcement then perhaps it's time to look in the mirror and adjust your attitude?

I dunno, these type of threads always crack me up.. So much misinformation and false accusations made. If you don't like or agree with laws then contact you representatives. The police do not make the laws, they enforce them....

Maybe after you've worked a few vehicle accidents with dead children and decapitated people you'd have a better understanding as to why traffic laws are enforced... Meh, I'll digress....

 

[Opinionated]

Lol. Nvm. .

 

[stols001]

r

Maybe after you've worked a few vehicle accidents with dead children and decapitated people you'd have a better understanding as to why traffic laws are enforced... Meh, I'll digress....

I have never been in an accident except one which was not my fault. The police were useless, the hitter tried to flee and was stopped by a bystander. The police did nothing to assist my situation other than to tell me to be still. They ASKED me if I wanted an ambulance, I actually had to call my husband to decide to go. He came to the scene of the accident as they were taking their time and took pictures for the insurance folk (from the sidewalk) and was blocked and instructed by the PD to stop. The ambulance personnel made rude comments about my husband as he was driving behind me for a neck injury.

The police made NO determination concerning the accident and the insurance companies did it (in my favor.)

I was not impressed by the PD's performance nor am I usually ever. Border Patrol in my state is fantastic and far more concerned about motorists. When I pulled over with a cracked radiator BP stopped and filled it with enough water for me to get home. Several PD drove by and did not stop.

When I encountered a horse in the road and corralled it, the sheriff on the scene screamed and CURSED at me and SHOVED me out of the road, because I was RUNNING UP THE SIDE of the road to notify him. He screamed about me being "in the road" and then ran down it himself (actually in the middle of the road.) I spent about an hour making sure that horse and no one else got hurt (although the horse did hit a car with an illegal alien in it because he would not STOP as he was directed to do.) I was so insulted I told his little minion that I had no requirement to give a statement, that I was not legally compelled to give a statement and I would not do so until the sheriff apologized. My kid was with me and shaky, which is the only reason I gave one. I put in my statement the behavior of the sheriff, and to his credit he called and apologized, and told me he realized I did not have to stop and a lot of people wouldn't and that he was worried about the scene. Which I can understand but the cursing was unacceptable in my view.

I realize the PD have a difficult and traumatic job, I realize the PD can vary from place to place, I have dealt with PD folks who were CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS as I almost took a jail job but I was like, "No, they are CREATING conduct disorder people here, not helping them." When a Sherriff says with relish, "We get suicides here we get them a LOT you will see one sooner than you think (when suicides are 100% preventable in the youth detention services, they are observed, and isolated and in lead aprons) well I'm SORRY JUST NO.

I am not saying anything about YOUR PD or your OWN conduct I am saying I CAN and DO dislike my PD because THEY suck. THEM.

You taking it personally sounds JUST like something a PD would do in my jurisdiction.. I do not care if you have to clear fatal accidents I have a job that can be just as traumatic and stressful as clearing and accident so you can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned. My job is probably EQUALLY as hard and requires more skills.

Don't tell me about "MY" PD, my observations about them are true. And no member of the PD anywhere is gong to admit to quotas, so I don't expect you to agree.

It's rude. dismissive and OH EXACTLY like a police officer, actually. You are right. You know you are right. Your job is harder than anyone' s on earth.. You see dead people. OOH, so do hosptials, social workers (HI!) mortitions, people at a funeral with an open casket and that kid in the only M Night Shimalyan movie. You aren't special. Sorry.

Done. I'm sure I'll get in trouble for this post... But really.

I tell people to be respectful to the police because they can get hurt. Not because the PD here deserve respect they deserve NONE.

Anna

 

[raqball]

r

I have never been in an accident except one which was not my fault. The police were useless, the hitter tried to flee and was stopped by a bystander. The police did nothing to assist my situation other than to tell me to be still. They ASKED me if I wanted an ambulance, I actually had to call my husband to decide to go. He came to the scene of the accident as they were taking their time and took pictures for the insurance folk (from the sidewalk) and was blocked and instructed by the PD to stop. The ambulance personnel made rude comments about my husband as he was driving behind me for a neck injury.

The police made NO determination concerning the accident and the insurance companies did it (in my favor.)

I was not impressed by the PD's performance nor am I usually ever. Border Patrol in my state is fantastic and far more concerned about motorists. When I pulled over with a cracked radiator BP stopped and filled it with enough water for me to get home. Several PD drove by and did not stop.

When I encountered a horse in the road and corralled it, the sheriff on the scene screamed and CURSED at me and SHOVED me out of the road, because I was RUNNING UP THE SIDE of the road to notify him. He screamed about me being "in the road" and then ran down it himself (actually in the middle of the road.) I spent about an hour making sure that horse and no one else got hurt (although the horse did hit a car with an illegal alien in it because he would not STOP as he was directed to do.) I was so insulted I told his little minion that I had no requirement to give a statement, that I was not legally compelled to give a statement and I would not do so until the sheriff apologized. My kid was with me and shaky, which is the only reason I gave one. I put in my statement the behavior of the sheriff, and to his credit he called and apologized, and told me he realized I did not have to stop and a lot of people wouldn't and that he was worried about the scene. Which I can understand but the cursing was unacceptable in my view.

I realize the PD have a difficult and traumatic job, I realize the PD can vary from place to place, I have dealt with PD folks who were CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS as I almost took a jail job but I was like, "No, they are CREATING conduct disorder people here, not helping them." When a Sherriff says with relish, "We get suicides here we get them a LOT you will see one sooner than you think (when suicides are 100% preventable in the youth detention services, they are observed, and isolated and in lead aprons) well I'm SORRY JUST NO.

I am not saying anything about YOUR PD or your OWN conduct I am saying I CAN and DO dislike my PD because THEY suck. THEM.

You taking it personally sounds JUST like something a PD would do in my jurisdiction.. I do not care if you have to clear fatal accidents I have a job that can be just as traumatic and stressful as clearing and accident so you can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned. My job is probably EQUALLY as hard and requires more skills.

Don't tell me about "MY" PD, my observations about them are true. And no member of the PD anywhere is gong to admit to quotas, so I don't expect you to agree.

It's rude. dismissive and OH EXACTLY like a police officer, actually. You are right. You know you are right. Your job is harder than anyone' s on earth.. You see dead people. OOH, so do hosptials, social workers (HI!) mortitions, people at a funeral with an open casket and that kid in the only M Night Shimalyan movie. You aren't special. Sorry.

Done. I'm sure I'll get in trouble for this post... But really.

I tell people to be respectful to the police because they can get hurt. Not because the PD here deserve respect they deserve NONE.

Anna

Sounds to me like you and/or your attitude play a large part in the problems you've encountered but I'll move along now....

 

[evan le'garde]

This has to be one of the dumbest posts I've read on the internet in a while....

Through your 'expertise' I assume you are well aware that detectives are promoted from within the uniformed ranks right?

Next a uniformed street officer has contact with 10-20 times more people on a daily basis than a detective will and those contacts are not in an interview room inside a secured facility..

Please educate yourself before spreading nonsense and making absurd remarks...

So an aspiring young uniformed police officer in your mind isn't a wannabe detective. Even though those same uniformed police officers one day become detectives.

You're contradicting yourself !.

Have you any inkling of how many mistakes these guys make whilst on duty as uniformed police officers over the period it takes for them to become detectives. And that multitude of mistakes, which are unavoidable, are to the general publics detriment and it all gets swept neatly under the carpet because that's how these departments operate. In fact, the front line of most public service departments operate in this way. And it's always the public on the recieving end.

There is no other way these folks can learn the ropes. And i suppose you're going to tell me i'm wrong about that too.

You make it sound like this public service department can do no wrong at all at anytime and everything they do is perfect. It couldn't be further from the truth.

Whilst making me look stupid at the same time for good measure right ?.

You're living in a fantasy world.

What's even more ignorant is that several people agree with you.

 

[raqball]

So an aspiring young uniformed police officer in your mind isn't a wannabe detective. Even though those same uniformed police officers one day become detectives.

You're contradicting yourself !.

Have you any inkling of how many mistakes these guys make whilst on duty as uniformed police officers over the period it takes for them to become detectives. And that multitude of mistakes, which are unavoidable, are to the general publics detriment and it all gets swept neatly under the carpet because that's how these departments operate. In fact, the front line of most public service departments operate in this way. And it's always the public on the recieving end.

There is no other way these folks can learn the ropes. And i suppose you're going to tell me i'm wrong about that too.

You make it sound like this public service department can do no wrong at all at anytime and everything they do is perfect. It couldn't be further from the truth.

Whilst making me look stupid at the same time for good measure right ?.

You're living in a fantasy world.

I'd suggest you educate yourself first and foremost but I also understand most just want to ramble on with farcical mumbo-jumbo and have no desire to do so. Next up I'd suggest you contact your local Law Enforcement and see if they have a citizens academy and/or offer ride alongs to citizens.

Do as you please but based on your 2 posts on the matter, I'd say you have zero understanding on how things work. I can't make you get educated on the topic so do as you please and ramble onwards with made up hocus-pocus information...

 

[somdcomputerguy]

My first freaking encounter with then was "crossing the white line" when I was turning somewhere. I seriously didn't either, they were just curious.

Ya, I had a similar situation a while back - anyone else feel embarrased vaping?

 

[NGAHaze]

I find it more entertaining to watch someone else getting in trouble, beat up or tased than actually being the one getting in trouble, beat up or tased.

I'm of the same mindset yet it never ceases to amaze me what some people will do to get themselves on TV.

 

[raqball]

I'm of the same mindset yet it never ceases to amaze me what some people will do to get themselves on TV.

Did a search warrant once where upon entry (high risk - no knock) the occupants were in the living room watching COPS on TV....

Was funny stuff!

While they were not on TV, they were watching on TV what was going down to them in real time... LOL

 

[evan le'garde]

I'd suggest you educate yourself first and foremost but I also understand most just want to ramble on with farcical mumbo-jumbo and have no desire to do so. Next up I'd suggest you contact your local Law Enforcement and see if they have a citizens academy and/or offer ride alongs to citizens.

Do as you please but based on your 2 posts on the matter, I'd say you have zero understanding on how things work. I can't make you get educated on the topic so do as you please and ramble onwards with made up hocus-pocus information...

Well you did contradict yourself.

You said my post, which included the phrase "wannabe detectives", and i quote your post:

"is one of the dumbest posts i've read on the internet in a while".

Then you said, and i quote your post:

"these uniformed detectives are promoted from within the uniformed ranks right?".

I'm pretty sure that when i said they are "wannabe detectives" it means the exact same thing as the fandamental point of your arguement.

Are you drunk ?.

 

[raqball]

Well you did contradict yourself.

You said my post, which included the phrase "wannabe detectives", and i quote your post:

"is one of the dumbest posts i've read on the internet in a while".

Then you said, and i quote your post:

"these uniformed detectives are promoted from within the uniformed ranks right?".

I'm pretty sure that when i said they are "wannabe detectives" it meens the exact same thing as the fandamental point of your arguement.

Are you drunk ?.

I don't drink and as said educate yourself.. Not every police officer aspires to be a detective.. Many work the streets their entire career... Some take promotions to higher ranks, some don't. Some want to work detectives, some don't. Your statements continue to show little you actually know.

You can keep making disparaging comments and remarks but I'd ask you again to educate yourself before doing so...

 

[United States]

I'll say it again:

Lets take away all enforcement in your town (whomever mistrusts all police) and see if your mind changes about the police after 90 days.

I'd rather live in a town with uniformed frat boys keeping the streets safe than one with nobody keeping them safe.

 

[evan le'garde]

I don't drink and as said educate yourself.. Not every police officer aspires to be a detective.. Many work the streets their entire career... Some take promotions to higher ranks, some don't. Some want to work detectives, some don't. Your statements continue to show little you actually know.

You can keep making disparaging comments and remarks but I'd ask you again to educate yourself before doing so...

I made a comment, which i might add wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

Now, it seems, you have decided that i am the one making disparaging comments and remarks.

It's actually you who are making these remarks, to me.

I stand by my first post.

And i am no need of an education. So stop patronizing me.

Learn some respect !.

 

[evan le'garde]

Here's something for you to learn.

Attack the post, not the poster !.