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Spazmelda

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Like many public health experts, Glynn believes you would not see wholesale switching to less harmful nicotine products; instead, people would continue smoking but use other nicotine products in places where smoking is banned, such as theatres and airplanes. ‘That would actually ...... cessation by allowing people to continue to smoke,’ Glynn concludes.

Don't confuse Tom Glynn with the facts. He's got his mind made up.

He's the TPSAC member who tried to add a sentence to the report on dissolvables: "There is no safe tobacco product."

And yet the consensus of TPSAC is that smokers who switch completely to dissolvables will likely see health benefits. If only he had inserted "100%" between "no" and "safe" his colleagues might not have eliminated the sentence. Ah, but then the sentence would not have been misleading.
 

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Oh, look who's back and commenting, our favorite cornball.

I actually like it when he posts, he makes everyone who stands against us look like a crackpot.
And he gives us a chance to expand our arguments in favor of vaping even further.

That guys is truly a dream come true for our cause.

You did a great job TennDave, and here's your link to the Greek cardiologist if you need it...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...moking-interview-vapeteam-show-wednesday.html
 

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Thanks DC2- I was hoping for an actual link to his research, not a link here in ECF... I was wanting to post his research in the comments- a rebuttal to the e-cigs cause heart trouble argument but I guess the research is still preliminary and I don't think anyone will watch a very long video that to them will appear one sided. We shall therefore wait for the published reports.
 

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Thanks DC2- I was hoping for an actual link to his research, not a link here in ECF... I was wanting to post his research in the comments- a rebuttal to the e-cigs cause heart trouble argument but I guess the research is still preliminary and I don't think anyone will watch a very long video that to them will appear one sided. We shall therefore wait for the published reports.

I'm very excited to see his research published in a peer reviewed article. It will probably be a while, but hopefully worth the wait.
 

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Cigarette smoke has long overshadowed nicotine as the main culprit for heart disease, but a new study suggests that nicotine itself may stimulate the disease process by altering cell structures and promoting fatty plaque deposits, the hallmark of cardiovascular disease, to accumulate in vessels.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/ne...

Would that be the fatty deposits from the Big Macs or the super sized New York style chocolate shakes people consume? It's funny how everyone has a vendetta against some sort of substitute to something more harmful. If your doctor tells you to eat hard candy instead of Hershey's Kisses, then the dentist will tell you to change to sugarless candy. The doctor will then warn you about artificial sweeteners. Sheesh!

Moderation and harm reduction is valuable. We all know that smoking kills. Vaping must be a lesser evil. Few substances are without some sort of risk these days, however minute they may be.

Some of the healthiest people in the world grew up on American Farms eating food grown in their backyard fields. Then, technology gave us pesticides and genetically altered seed.

We as vapers represent maybe 15% of the total smoking population and an insignificant percentage of the total adult population. As smokers quit or switch to vaping, we stand to grow our ranks by some unknown multiple. Some smokers will quit using various products, some will quit cold turkey, and others will just die from various causes. A certain number will discover vaping, but only if we educate them. As long as vaping carries the stigma of antifreeze and carcinogens spread by the FDA, we will lose some potential vapers.

The news media really doesn't yet have the hard facts about vaping. They still pull their FDA test reports from 2009 and declare that ecigs contain antifreeze and tobacco carcinogens. I cringe when I hear those little blurbs on national TV. Education is the key to information accuracy.
 

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I've got a copy in my notepad app. I've decided to always compose messages there because editing is easier and they are saved for future use. Thanks!

Good idea- I hate it when I write a bunch and then hit post and something happens and it's lost forever! Arghhhh :(
 
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