Long time family friend suffering from crappy ecig experience.

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There is a long time family friend who has smoked much of her life and she went down the ecig route but only with the ridiculously bad disposable types and gave up , she desperately needs some encouraging feedback to give it another try .

Thank you so much


Here is my story...

I smoked a pack+ a day of Camel Filter and Camel 99s for 30 years. At 29 years I also tried the cigarette styled ecigs (cigalikes). I used them for about 3 months, and still smoked regular cigarettes as well. I was never close to being satisfied and finally gave up entirely.

About 9 months later I was going on a vacation where smoking cigarettes would often be prohibited or too inconvenient. My wife and I decided to get some ecigs to use when we couldn't smoke. Based on my previous experience we decided to go all out and get a large variable voltage mod with some large tanks. Never cared for the flavor of the liquids we got, but they produced enough vapor and delivered enough nicotine to do the job, and do it well. We both still smoked, but they worked well enough that after the vacation was over we continued to use them and cut our smoking to less than half of what it had been.

After that we tried other flavors. My wife quickly found that she loved straight menthol and once that was found her smoking dropped off until after a month or so she simply stopped smoking. For me it took a while longer. I had that mindset that I wanted to replicate smoking so I kept buying "tobacco" flavored liquids and continued to smoke on the side. Eventually I moved away from the tobacco flavors entirely and into candies and mints. Once I found that I liked mints, peppermint in particular, then I also gradually stopped smoking.

There was never a conscious decision to stop smoking for me. I never had that intent. I was looking for a supplement to use when I couldn't smoke, that was all. But once I had the setup that produced enough vapor to keep me happy and a flavor I enjoyed more than tobacco, I found that I simply preferred the ecig. I never hit a point where I said "This is my last cigarette". Quite the opposite, I was finding that I would light a cigarette and only smoke a quarter of it before I put it out and started puffing on my ecig instead. I walked around for 2 months with a half pack of cigarettes in my pocket "just in case I want one".


Switching is easy once you find the right setup. I HIGHLY recommend going into at least 2 different ecig shops and asking to try a couple of their different mods and try a wide variety of flavors before buying anything. Try more than one device, try the more expensive devices as well as the cheap ones, and try all of the flavors with an open mind. Get some first hand experience with the options before making a decision. DO NOT just buy whatever the first shop you walk into recommends.

In fact, I would suggest that once you find what you think you want, before you buy it come here first and ask if it's a good setup. You'll get lots of members who have used whatever you're looking at that can tell you just about everything good and bad about it. This forum is packed full of ex smokers who would love nothing more than to help someone else get off the stinkies, and have been through the journey of disappointment before finding the right setup.
 
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I do love my VV3 (and MVP2) VV3 for form-factor; MVP for battery life. I have a mini PT2, Smok Aro Pyrex (for glass tanks) and a ton of EVODs. I've heard great things about Provaris (and maybe some day when I grow up, may get one for myself :D - unless of course your friends would bequeath one to me ;) )

Herb, I think you're awesome for assisting your friends - get them out here (even if they're not computer people, show them the ropes) Hopefully they can find something that fits their bill.
 

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I do love my VV3 (and MVP2) VV3 for form-factor; MVP for battery life. I have a mini PT2, Smok Aro Pyrex (for glass tanks) and a ton of EVODs. I've heard great things about Provaris (and maybe some day when I grow up, may get one for myself :D - unless of course your friends would bequeath one to me ;) )

Herb, I think you're awesome for assisting your friends - get them out here (even if they're not computer people, show them the ropes) Hopefully they can find something that fits their bill.


Well thank you but to be honest i think most people would go out of their way if they had friends they cared about .
 

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I think i know what she and possibly her husband who still smokes analogs would be very happy with . They will most likely want something that is reliable , provides a great vape , is durable and requires no maintenance . I really don't think they have any interest in building their own coils or anything along those lines.

I should also say i do not think money will be an issue when it comes to finding something that works , these folks don't panhandle like i do (kidding) and spending the cash for a quality trouble free experience i doubt will be an issue.

I rarely recommend a Provari to new vaporers but it really does suit their style imo and her husband once told me "he who dies with the most toys wins" which tells me they like nice things.

As for a trouble free topper that provides great taste , will hold plenty of juice so she doesn't have to refill a couple times a day and has easy to replace head's i think maybe an Aerotank Mega .

Anyone else have some suggestions, of course she can just get an MVP like me but these folks are high end , meaning they don't haggle over a few bucks.

Must be nice

If money is not an issue, then please get them a few cigalike disposables.

All they need is to find 1 cigalike brand that tastes good enough to do the job.

I hear the NJOY is pretty good;

there's the blu; greensmoke; lots of them to try.
 

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Here's my story ,

I truly thought i would not be able to beat real cigs and was extremely worried about the long term health consequences . I had little hope of succeeding when i first tried ecigs ( crappy ones) , i thought they were terrible but i knew i had to stop somehow , even Chantix didn't work and the gum and patches sucked as well .

I realized i had to do something because if i kept smoking it wasn't going to end well. But how to do it without going through the cravings and irritability associated with quitting .

I wasn't sure how safe ecigs were but they had to be better than real smokes, when i really started researching fact from fiction i was pleasantly surprised , it is a lot safer .

Well after i bought a good setup (still looking for the perfect one), i was completely blown away with the experience of an MVP and simple clearomizers .

I bought juices that i know i liked the taste of and the selection and different vendor offerings is unreal , the taste of many of these is outstanding but the biggest plus is i feel 100% healthier , no more coughing , no more shortness of breath , i really can't believe it.

I know there are many out there that still think of ecigs as garbage and not worth it but they just have not found the right setup , if they experienced what i have and most on these forums have they would be so much happier .

While you do not need to get into coil rebuilding and ohm's law i have studied it and have no trouble rebuilding my coils and wicking successfully, been doing it for awhile now , why , because it's much cheaper than buying new coils .

I have not started making my own juice yet but i see many have and you can make it whatever you want depending on your taste preferences and that will really cut costs , i do need to acquire a few more mods but thats about it .

Some say when are you going to quit ecigs , lay off will you please , i'm having a blast.
 

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If money is not an issue, then please get them a few cigalike disposables.

All they need is to find 1 cigalike brand that tastes good enough to do the job.

I hear the NJOY is pretty good;

there's the blu; greensmoke; lots of them to try.



Oh God no , thats what gave them the terrible experience , i tried most of those brands and i was close to swearing off ecigs for good . Thank god i got a good mod and juice.
 
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If money is not an issue, then please get them a few cigalike disposables.

All they need is to find 1 cigalike brand that tastes good enough to do the job.

I hear the NJOY is pretty good;

there's the blu; greensmoke; lots of them to try.

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Ummmm. NO!

Big waste of money and surefire way for them to fail. They have already tried one, and hated it. Next.
 
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Oh God no , thats what gave them the terrible experience , i tried most of those brands and i was close to swearing off ecigs for good . Thank god i got a good mod and juice.

Well good; so they tried one; try another.

Your original post sounded more like they tried on of those ce4 disposable topcoils and ended up with the usual dry hits problem
 
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Ummmm. NO!

Big waste of money and surefire way for them to fail. They have already tried one, and hated it. Next.

You use cartos don't you Baditude?
You're saying there's no disposable cigalikes available that somebody can try first before upgrading to a full modular carto tank system?

Doesn't Boge make any disposables for people to try out before going for a full boge carto system?
 

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You use cartos don't you Baditude?
You're saying there's no disposable cigalikes available that somebody can try first before upgrading to a full modular carto tank system?

Doesn't Boge make any disposables for people to try out before going for a full boge carto system?

None that are worth spending good money on. From bad cartridges from the get-go to bad tasting juice, they are not worth the money and only leads to frustration. Any disposable with pre-filled cartridges is a bad idea IMHO.
 
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OK folks wanted to get your insight on inhalers like Nicotrol , seems this long time family friend has been using one on her Cardiologist recommendation.

Seems to me these are tasteless PVD's ('personal vaping device' for my friend who may not know what that is) but i could be wrong , vaping sounds so much better because of the limitless flavors available and your choice of nic strengths .

Seems most Physicians have extremely limited knowledge about vaping and therefor are unlikely to recommend it , it's very unfortunate.
 
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OK folks wanted to get your insight on inhalers like Nicotrol , seems this long time family friend has been using one on her Cardiologist recommendation.

Seems to me these are tasteless PVD's ('personal vaping device' for my friend who may not know what that is) but i could be wrong , vaping sounds so much better because of the limitless flavors available and your choice of nic strengths .

Seems most Physicians have extremely limited knowledge about vaping and therefor are unlikely to recommend it , it's very unfortunate.

Much of smoking to me was the act of it. The hand to mouth, the smoke itself.... I don't think Nicotrol really captures that as well as vaping does.
 

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Blu was a spectacular failure for me. Crumby battery life and poorly performing cartridges had me back to smoking for a couple of years.

Your friend's story is rather common - Try an inexpensive and commonly available model, get frustrated, go back to smoking analogs.

We tend to generalize some things and not others. Imagine someone getting a Ford Fiesta, experiencing slow acceleration and mechanical problems, then exclaiming "Cars suck".

ECF broadened my horizons. Lead the horse to water.
 

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OK folks wanted to get your insight on inhalers like Nicotrol , seems this long time family friend has been using one on her Cardiologist recommendation.

Seems to me these are tasteless PVD's ('personal vaping device' for my friend who may not know what that is) but i could be wrong , vaping sounds so much better because of the limitless flavors available and your choice of nic strengths .

Seems most Physicians have extremely limited knowledge about vaping and therefor are unlikely to recommend it , it's very unfortunate.

If he/she is actively visiting a cardiologist then the Dr needs to be involved in her making any changes. If the Dr is not informed on vaping then some research or consulting with a peer who is would be in order.
 

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If he/she is actively visiting a cardiologist then the Dr needs to be involved in her making any changes. If the Dr is not informed on vaping then some research or consulting with a peer who is would be in order.
Many health professionals are opposed to e-cigarettes or on the fence because the FDA has yet to determine how to classify them and/or there are no long-term studies on the safety or effectiveness of their use.

Smokers desiring to stop smoking and who have been unsuccessful using traditional methods to quit can not afford to wait for the FDA to decide what e-cigarettes are or wait the ten years for the medical community to have long term studies to say e-cigarettes are safe/effective.

Sometimes you need to do your own research and go with your own rational thought process to do what is right for yourself and your situation. This is coming from a medical professional who worked in the health care field for over 35 years and who successfully stopped smoking using an electronic cigarette device. I have been smoke free for over two years solely from using such a device while the traditionally and medically approved methods all failed miserably.
 
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I gave my wife all my hand me downs in the hopes she would quit. She used them all and even liked them....but she never quit smoking all together. Then I let her use my provari mini in 18350 mode with an ibtanked carto tank and a boge lr carto. That was 9 months ago. She's been smoke free for 9 months. She still won't give the provari back....but now it has a kayfun on it.
 

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My story is one of being a dual user. I add that to this thread, cause I think it provides current smokers with another option going forward. I read many stories here and most of them mention "I didn't want to quit" or "I didn't set out to quit." That has to come from the person (the smoker) and not from an outside source, even a very loving, concerned family member or friend. With vaping, it is nearly a given. I am proud moderate smoker, smoking about a pack every 2 weeks and gladly giving them away nowadays. My reduction is due to vaping (nicotine) and while dual use is not the norm for most smokers turned vapers, it is an option I think to keep in mind. To realize there is absolutely no hurry in having to stop smoking, but is instead up to the individual and what they honestly desire.
 

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Herb,

You might try to convince her to try a slim mod and a trouble free tank or even a small dripper.

I came into vaping trying to help a dear friend to kick the coffin nails and I like it so much that I even dropped my spare pipe smoking. My frend OTOH, started on cigalikes which as you well know do not work, except on films and TV. I convinced her to take the step up to an eGo Twist which she loved but they're almost disposable. Now I ordered for her (as a gift) a mini-Nemesis and a Smok RDA. I'm sure she will love the true vaping experience (as opposed to the puny flavor and vapor volume of cartos & clearos). I'm waiting for the stuff to arrive —with fingers crossed that customs don't seize them.

Recently the Comission for the Reduction of Sanitary Risks, a branch of our Health Ministry upheld a restriction on everything related to "electronic cigarettes" on the grounds that there's not enough evidence that they constitute a way to stop smoking (a stupid ruling that the Senate had demanded be dropped). They are on a witch-hunt against sales, production, imports and even "components". Right now customs in Guadalajara as grabbed an Erlkönigin that I purchased last week.

Since I wasn't really aware of the change in rules (traveling when they issued it and most probably didn't make the news) it caught me with several items on the way (items from KP & FT). Most probably I'll have to send them (at extra expense) to a friend in the US who will smuggle them into the country next time he comes here. Fortunately they cannot seize personal items from tourists.
 
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