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If it helps anyone else I'm only using Facebook anymore for commerce. ...., if there is something you really want I have good ratings for both Facebook and the ecf trade group. I could arrange a few trades if it's totally necessary.
@EverythingEvil
If you could help me get the RDTA from Odis, once it's finished, I would be forever grateful
If you could help me get the RDTA from Odis, once it's finished, I would be forever grateful
I can probably do that. I plan on getting one once they are released. I'll probably grab a few for anyone else that wants one and doesn't use facebook.
@EverythingEvil
Could you get me a price on those DL driptips & i’ll dm you about sending you some dough.
Could you get me a price on those DL driptips & i’ll dm you about sending you some dough.
Looks like a majority of them are $20, and there are an insane amount of different materials to choose from.
Brass, copper, titanium, Amber ultem, black ultem, acrylic, carbon fiber, and juma (whatever that is)
The ones above are $20 and the ones below are $75.
Timascus, Mokume, dense twist damasteel, bluetounge damasteel, and superconductor.
It's really hard to know what any of these look like, the only photos of the drip tips are from customers.
Thanks @EverythingEvil, I will wait on feedback & get back to you. You are awesome for offering.
For the record, if this but goes ahead I would like in too.
Full disclosure, I'm verified member, I'm in Australia, and willing to cover any extra shipping, packing etc.
Full disclosure, I'm verified member, I'm in Australia, and willing to cover any extra shipping, packing etc.
Been vaping salts, which are 50/50 of/big, in my Orion, and happy with it. The pod (.5ohm) says suitable for salts or freebase nic liquids, so since I like to drop to 3mg in the evening, I tried some 70/30. No go, got dry hits pretty quickly. Now I get why people are fluffing the cotton.
I vape mostly 70/30 in the pods and they're fine but that is of course at 15W.
Below are two youtube videos by JayBo--his teardown, and his factory tour of Orion final assembly in China. It's obvious that a lot of effort when into the design. There are a lot of small intricate parts, close tolerances and tedious hand assembly. This is grueling work.
I can see why the Orion is pricey, it's a mini masterpeice.
If you are willing to spend the money for luxury mods and atomizers (I'm usually not) then the Orion is your luxury pod system.
In the mean time I am liking the Orion a lot but hesitate to use it a lot until I know how many ml's of my DIY at my settings are consumed before the cartridge needs replacing. In Escribe I found that the DNA Go board records puff count (may be puff time also). Setting that value to zero installing a fresh pod then checking the number at the next replacment should give an indication of what to expect. I don't know why they say 400 puffs per cartridge. I'm sure it's far more than that for me.
I believe if they offered a rebuildable version of the pod they would still sell almost as many of the non rebuildable pods but 5 times more of the mods. That might not be practical if the DNA Go chip depends on consistant .5 and .25 coils to operate properly (pure speculation). I hope we see less expensive pod systems using the DNA Go on board. I like Replay.
(I find Evolv's approach to the market frustrating and puzzeling. Why won't they license their designs so that there can be more units sold at lower prices? So many mods are produced worldwide, mimicking Evolv technology, that a modest royality, easy for manufacturers to pay, should generate a LOT of revenue for Evolv and produce higher quality more affordable devices for vapers. Sigh...)
I can see why the Orion is pricey, it's a mini masterpeice.
If you are willing to spend the money for luxury mods and atomizers (I'm usually not) then the Orion is your luxury pod system.
In the mean time I am liking the Orion a lot but hesitate to use it a lot until I know how many ml's of my DIY at my settings are consumed before the cartridge needs replacing. In Escribe I found that the DNA Go board records puff count (may be puff time also). Setting that value to zero installing a fresh pod then checking the number at the next replacment should give an indication of what to expect. I don't know why they say 400 puffs per cartridge. I'm sure it's far more than that for me.
I believe if they offered a rebuildable version of the pod they would still sell almost as many of the non rebuildable pods but 5 times more of the mods. That might not be practical if the DNA Go chip depends on consistant .5 and .25 coils to operate properly (pure speculation). I hope we see less expensive pod systems using the DNA Go on board. I like Replay.
(I find Evolv's approach to the market frustrating and puzzeling. Why won't they license their designs so that there can be more units sold at lower prices? So many mods are produced worldwide, mimicking Evolv technology, that a modest royality, easy for manufacturers to pay, should generate a LOT of revenue for Evolv and produce higher quality more affordable devices for vapers. Sigh...)
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Their pods are basically free (because they are making a ton of money from you and I buying their pods). And I bet they crank them up to give them tons of vapor and flavor. So that 400 puffs is probably what they get.
Most mods are made in China. And they figure why bother with licenses when you can just steal it.
You got it in one. I watched an interview with the head man at Evolv (seems like it was Brandon) where he said exactly that. The board was designed around the mod, and the mod was designed around the board. It was able to be so small by doing only a couple of very specific things. It's why they have never considered selling them in small lots/individuals.
I bet they aren't going to sell the DNA Go in small numbers because it would draw attention to how expensive the other boards are. The board, as is, could be used in other mods or pods. Is Evolv going to give Lost Vape an exclusive? That wouldn't please their other commercial customers.
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