loud music killing batteries?

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I have some batterys that just come on when moved, no loud noises, no wind, just pick them up. Some switches are more sinative than others. I only take the ones that work correctly with me to the Casinos or my atomizers get burned up. I can sometimes get them to stop doing it, but its hard to explain. I wiggle somthing inside the battery untill it quits doing it with a unfolded paper clip.
 

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Wow, wish I'd known this before I'd ordered mine. I vape at my manufacturing job constantly and there is no avoiding loud noises there. Looks like I might need to test out Puresmokers 14 day return policy Damn.

You should try it first. I had no problems at all in a sports bar, with pool tables, Foosball, and 300 people shouting over the music. Only the "disco" bar caused great problems.

Unless they have dance music cranked at your job, rotfl ;-)
 
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It's definitely not noise in general, it's anything that applies the right amount of pressure to the switch. My battery was strobing to the drumbeat last night, maybe even the bass, but the place I was at has terrible acoustics and the band playing was this loud-as-hell surf band.

All I know is my EVO has been demoted to house duty only, my pen goes on the road. I think it will work out better that way, anyhow, considering cart size and need for topping off/maintenance.
 

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i haven't left my house this weekend, hehe, but on a personal note i'm going to the movies later, so i'll take it with me in the car. i don't have a loud stereo, but i have a tiny, noisy Acura Integra. i'll try with the windows and the sunroof and see if i can activate my new Pilot batteries.

i'll have my EVO by monday, so i'll try with those too in a few days and see if i get the same results as the others with their EVO.
 

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i haven't left my house this weekend, hehe, but on a personal note i'm going to the movies later, so i'll take it with me in the car. i don't have a loud stereo, but i have a tiny, noisy Acura Integra. i'll try with the windows and the sunroof and see if i can activate my new Pilot batteries.

i'll have my EVO by monday, so i'll try with those too in a few days and see if i get the same results as the others with their EVO.
sweet! thanks, cant wait to hear your results as i am still deciding on a pilot vs a 901
 

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Here's my answer from the other thread, pasted.

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I actually consider it somewhat of a problem in the design...definitely a concern.

I have been driving down the street, grabbed my evo and had the atomizer be VERY hot in my hand and, on more than one occasion saw it light up so hot that it was glowing red through the mouthpiece...That was before I learned about the music thing.

Yes, it's manageable but it is a bit of a pain in the ..... I've been thinking about getting a switch activated cig for car use and keeping my evos broken down whilst in the car to stop them blowing out my atomizers while I drive / listen to music. Fortunately, I'm only on the road ~20 mins each way to work so it's not a HUGE issue but it certainly could be for some.

Also, my intellicig batteries are SO sensitive that I can blow on the tip (the led end) and light up the atomizer...and I don't even have to blow very hard to make it happen (less force than required to blow out a single birthday candle...IF it was 2 inches from your face).

On the good side, though, the pull on them is phenomenal. I've just had learn to change my habits a bit so as not to burn them up.




Hello, Which battery do you have? The mighty atom or the Genie? Are they both just as sensitive? Do you know if the Genie is new and maybe less sensitive?And if the battery nukes the evo completely will intellicig give you a new one under a warranty?
 

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well, i was out in daylight and tried some loud music and windows down, but it's pretty cold out, and i couldn't see the LED very well, so i will need to make a more formal test when it's dark and not freezing outside...hehe. but...it didn't go off in my car just driving down the road, having the windows cracked to order food, etc. i think it will be more of an issue with simply adjusting your habits like has been suggested.

i mean, can you really even smoke an analog with both windows or the top down?

i will say, its nice that i dont have to worry about ashing, or trying to hold it in my lips while driving or something, since i can just set it in the seat.
 

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well, i was out in daylight and tried some loud music and windows down, but it's pretty cold out, and i couldn't see the LED very well, so i will need to make a more formal test when it's dark and not freezing outside...hehe. but...it didn't go off in my car just driving down the road, having the windows cracked to order food, etc. i think it will be more of an issue with simply adjusting your habits like has been suggested.

i mean, can you really even smoke an analog with both windows or the top down?

i will say, its nice that i dont have to worry about ashing, or trying to hold it in my lips while driving or something, since i can just set it in the seat.
cool! well thank you for doing your mini test. I think im pretty certain i am getting a 401 when they are back in stock.

and to answer your question yes i can smoke a regular cig with the top down but yes i do get ashes ALL over the place and always worry about my leather seats getting jacked up.
 

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Yes, it's manageable but it is a bit of a pain in the ..... I've been thinking about getting a switch activated cig for car use and keeping my evos broken down whilst in the car to stop them blowing out my atomizers while I drive / listen to music. Fortunately, I'm only on the road ~20 mins each way to work so it's not a HUGE issue but it certainly could be for some.

Wow, I had missed this thread. The first time I experienced the 2 minute cutoff on my Pilot was when I was driving my car and had not been using it for a while...

Also, my intellicig batteries are SO sensitive that I can blow on the tip (the led end) and light up the atomizer...and I don't even have to blow very hard to make it happen (less force than required to blow out a single birthday candle...IF it was 2 inches from your face).

Just checked and one of my Pilot 401 batteries does the same thing, the other does not. Don't know about my 402 battery, it is charging.
 

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Hello, Which battery do you have? The mighty atom or the Genie? Are they both just as sensitive? Do you know if the Genie is new and maybe less sensitive?And if the battery nukes the evo completely will intellicig give you a new one under a warranty?

I have both types of batteries and they are both just as sensitive.

I got them at the same time so it's not an age issue.

As for replacement if the battery nukes the atomizer...I have no idea but I'd think it's doubtful.
 

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Gonna revive this because I remember some posts by venerable veteran Ned Zeppelin (where are you, buddy?). He told us some e-cigs were arriving at European destinations in a burned-out state. They had been airmailed to destinations as a single piece. Something turned on the battery, which turned on the atomizer, ergo, burned up.

Is it possible the cargo hole of a jet airplane is noisy enough to trigger an intact e-cig? If so, then all cigs should be transported in pieces, as most manufacturers seem to.

I know we have some pilots who vape. What would the environment be like in a package cargo hole (surely different from a hole where dogs or pets would be transported). Is it terribly noisy? Terribly cold (JC thought his liquid froze in flight)? Pressurized?

Maybe the next time someone visits an airport, they can stand behind a jet revving up and watch their e-cig for activation!
 

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The cargo compartments are neither pressurized or heated, at least on passenger planes. I would imagine that a cargo plane has the same conditions as a cargo compartment on a passenger plane. Also before pressurized compartments pilots and crew needed to have oxygen over 10,000 feet, and very warm flight suits.
 
Had an idea that seemed to work!!! I took the "cartridge condom" (the rubber casing for the DSE901 carts) and put it over the LED light (on the 401). It does not seem to eliminate this problem completely.. but certainly helps it!

(makes the draw a little harder tho, u guys think this will blow out or overheat my atomizer?)
 
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Had an idea that seemed to work!!! I took the "cartridge condom" (the rubber casing for the DSE901 carts) and put it over the LED light (on the 401). It does not seem to eliminate this problem completely.. but certainly helps it!

(makes the draw a little harder tho, u guys think this will blow out or overheat my atomizer?)

THAT is really weird.

It's true, blow on the PS M401 Pilot LED and it turns on.

It's weird because this particular model e-cig as NO AIR PASSAGE through the battery, it's sealed. How strange.

Anyway - no air passage means it's not a harder draw, that's your imagination, the air goes through the little holes where the atomizer threads on to the battery

It also means it can't wreck anything putting a rubber over the LED.
That's really strange, wish I could try that, I don't have a 901.
 
THAT is really weird.

It's true, blow on the PS M401 Pilot LED and it turns on.

It's weird because this particular model e-cig as NO AIR PASSAGE through the battery, it's sealed. How strange.

Anyway - no air passage means it's not a harder draw, that's your imagination, the air goes through the little holes where the atomizer threads on to the battery

It also means it can't wreck anything putting a rubber over the LED.
That's really strange, wish I could try that, I don't have a 901.


Hah! I figured out why my draw was harder... I restuffed my cart and I overstuffed it.. pulled some of the polyfil out and it works fine again :)
 
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