Loving it, but need some help!

[Huuwap]

I’m pretty new to the e-cig world and have a boat load of questions. Back story first.

I was a pack and a half a day smoker and my main motivation to quit was cost. A pack of premium smokes around here is $4.50 or so, making $1 off deals and such a manageable option. Taxes are going to take a hike again here shortly though, bumping the cost up by $1.25/pack, and I just can’t handle that.

Anyway, about a year ago I bought an Encore (808D-1 3.7v battery) e-cig kit out of curiosity from a local tobacco shop. I didn’t know jack about them. My wife and I used them on and off for a few weeks and pretty much forgot about them. The flavors that came with the kit (tobacco and menthol) didn’t taste anything like it and it was almost impossible to get an appreciable amount of vapor out of them. Flash forward a year, I’m fed up with smokes and ready to quit, so I pick the ecig back up. No point in buying a new kit since we have two good batteries, so I head down to the local smoke shop and pick up new Encore branded cartomizers, $15 for 5. I got the sampler which included vanilla, strawberry, grape, menthol and tobacco. The three flavors I hadn’t tried were good and I got hooked pretty immediately (seems like they changed their juice for menthol and tobacco too, though the tobacco still sucks). I haven’t smoked a cigarette for two days, and in the last week have had a total of maybe 15 cigarettes. I have two packs of 5 filled carts coming from V4L, after that I plan to start filling my own.

I’m going through about one 16mg cartomizer a day, cost is definitely lower than buying smokes at the corner store, but I think I can do better. I plan on giving up the nicotine portion altogether, starting with 0mg juice as soon as I get this all figured out. I’ve never seemed to have much of a difficult time kicking that addiction, but I’m so psychologically addicted to the act of “smoking” that it’s a real ..... to kick. I’ve done a lot of research on refilling, and think I can manage that with little to no issue, but my big concern right now is finding a battery / cartomizer / tank I want to stick with (808D-1 or eGo is what I’ve narrowed it down to) and a reputable vendor to buy from. I can see putting down around $100 to get set up with the system I want to stick with and feeling good about the decision, which brings me to my questions.

What vendor(s) carry quality products at a reasonable price with decent support?

Cartomizers & Battery: I know there are a handful of different cart types, and that’s about it. I know there are some that work better for 808D-1 and others for 501 and others that won’t work well for either because they’re too power hungry or the resistance doesn’t meet the voltage in the middle. I’m completely lost and have yet to find some sort of complete list of differences that match resistance with voltage, and voltage with battery type. Here is what I’m looking for:

• A lasting battery. My current e-cig lasts about 8 hours at my current usage. I don’t plan to increase usage, but more than 8 hours would be nice.
• Cost of blank carts / options. I don’t want to be stuck with one style.
• Cost of battery. Depending on capacity I’d like to get at least 2 batteries and chargers. This way my wife and I could both have one of whatever I choose to get and a backup of what we currently have. I’m not sure on compatibility of chargers with different battery types, it seems like every charger has a different rating for mA out, and it’s one of those things that I haven’t seen explained much at all on any vendor’s website.
• Flavors, size and cost of juice. Starting out I’d probably rather get smaller containers of juice in a handful of flavors, but eventually I’m sure I’ll want to go up to 30ml or higher. I haven’t really found a decent vendor that offers a scope of different sizes, I’ve mainly been looking on V4L who offer 7ml and 30ml, but it seems to be at disproportionate prices. Maybe I’m just too frugal, can’t get something for nothing =).

I know this is getting a bit muddled and long winded, sorry about that. On carts again, is there a major difference between normal carts and tanks with internal carts? Are there benefits to using tanks + atomizer over reusing cartomizers or tanks with cartomizers integrated?

Is there a resource available online that offers some sort of list with a comparison of all these different things? Cart types and compatibility with batteries is really what’s giving me the most trouble. I don’t want to sink money in to this just to buy incompatible parts and spend more to dig myself out of a bad purchase.

I’m a tech guy, I build computers all the time, but this e-cig thing just seems complicated as hell. A whole new ball park.

Thank you very much.

 

[Aidan McFarlane]

I'd have to say you should check out Super 2600mAh Manual Battery V2 for 510/eGo - $29.90 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail--. It's find of poorly built, but that's what you get if you don't want to spend much. Madvapes.com has very reasonably priced juices, but some of them are just terrible. Not unvapable, but very unpleasant. Again some good cheap juices. AVOID CHINA JUICES. As a general rule, they suck. A very valuable vaping resource is GrimmGreen's channel on youtube. His videos are very informative.

 

[RocketRod]

cookdawg said;

I’m going through about one 16mg cartomizer a day, cost is definitely lower than buying smokes at the corner store, but I think I can do better. I plan on giving up the nicotine portion altogether, starting with 0mg juice as soon as I get this all figured out. I’ve never seemed to have much of a difficult time kicking that addiction, but I’m so physiologically addicted to the act of “smoking” that it’s a real ..... to kick.

I say;
Careful there. The worldwide addiction to nicotine is very powerful. Take it slow and calculated. You don't want to go back to stinkies!


cookdawg said;
What vendor(s) carry quality products at a reasonable price with decent support?

I say;
Have a look on the negative and positive vendor threads. Don't let everything you read totally make you decide against or for a vendor. I like mine as close to me as I can, and highly recommend Rocky Mountain Vapor.great customer service, quick shipping, and some good juices and prices.

cookdawg said;
A lasting battery. My current e-cig lasts about 8 hours at my current usage. I don’t plan to increase usage, but more than 8 hours would be nice.

i say;
for an all day and into the evening battery, try any 510/ego/Kgo type in the 650/900/1100 MaH range. Its been stated here that 100 Mah of a battery should last about an hour of normal vaping. I couldn't define normal if I wanted to. I know that my 650's last about 9 hours on Boge 2.0 cartomisers for my wife, and the others last all day and into the evening for me. But you millage may vary.

cookdawg said;
Cost of blank carts / options. I don’t want to be stuck with one style.

I say;
Depends where you get them $2 and up is normal. You can sometimes find some bulk (5 to 15) pack deals out there.

cookdawg said;
Cost of battery. Depending on capacity I’d like to get at least 2 batteries and chargers. This way my wife and I could both have one of whatever I choose to get and a backup of what we currently have. I’m not sure on compatibility of chargers with different battery types, it seems like every charger has a different rating for mA out, and it’s one of those things that I haven’t seen explained much at all on any vendor’s website.

I say;
Yep your right, many different types and capacities. The ego type (650/900/1100) will all charge of the standard charger for an eGo type charger.

cookdawg said;
Flavors, size and cost of juice. Starting out I’d probably rather get smaller containers of juice in a handful of flavors, but eventually I’m sure I’ll want to go up to 30ml or higher. I haven’t really found a decent vendor that offers a scope of different sizes, I’ve mainly been looking on V4L who offer 7ml and 30ml, but it seems to be at disproportionate prices. Maybe I’m just too frugal, can’t get something for nothing =).

I say;
Try a couple or three different vendors with their smallest bottles or sampler packs. There are many opinions here. What you might like today may change over time as your tase and smell return from not smoking. Another option in DIY. I'm not ready for that yet. Lazy I guess.

cookdawg said;
I know this is getting a bit muddled and long winded, sorry about that. On carts again, is there a major difference between normal carts and tanks with internal carts? Are there benefits to using tanks + atomizer over reusing cartomizers or tanks with cartomizers integrated?

i say;
The idea of a cartomizer in a tank is that the wick will always be wet and ready to burn. Its just a cart with 3-5 ml of jusce waiting for you to use it. Nice to have one when you are out for an extended errand run from home.

cookdawg said;
Is there a resource available online that offers some sort of list with a comparison of all these different things? Cart types and compatibility with batteries is really what’s giving me the most trouble. I don’t want to sink money in to this just to buy incompatible parts and spend more to dig myself out of a bad purchase.

I say;
Its all right here as far as I'm concerned. Scan the threads and different forums. Look for titles that interest you. Much knowledge to be gained.

Good Luck and Welcome to the ECF!l. A whole new ball park.

 

[winfab]

For all your ejuice needs I recommend BlueMistVaping, you can't go wrong with their prices & quality. The best deals on egos I've seem are at mapvapes.com

 

[Huuwap]

You guys rock! I just found the beginner's e-cig tut on this very site and it should keep me busy for a little while...can't believe I didn't stumble upon it in my 15 hours or so of stumbling through google before posting a thread.

 

[dchest02]

I've found that most of the boutique juice vendors out there have better quality than the others. I started buying juice from ecblendflavors.com, they have a 5 ml size for $2.50, the price goes up with the amount of nicotine. Vapor Bomb also has 5 ml bottles, they are $3.95. Both of these vendors have good juices, and I have found a couple of great juices from both. However, may all day vapes are a 50/50 mix of juicy peach and malty from Backwoods Brew, and snicker-doodles cookies from Ms. T's bakery. You really can't go wrong with either of those companies. Be sure to read the reviews of the juices you are looking at. You can find reviews on youtube as well. That being said, taste is subjective, you may not get the same flavor from a juice that someone else does. It may take a while to find a flavor that you REALLY like. It took me almost a month of trying different juices before I knew what I wanted to vape all the time. As for batteries, I personally would recommend the echo-e kit from health cabin

ECHO Starter Kit - $39.90 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail--

That is what I started on, and I loved it, but I found that after a little while that I liked vaping at a higher wattage, so I had to step up to a variable voltage battery, and a low resistance cartomizer. I know all the information can be overwhelming, but it is worth it to do your homework and find something that works for you.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

I’m pretty new to the e-cig world and have a boat load of questions. Back story first.

I was a pack and a half a day smoker and my main motivation to quit was cost. A pack of premium smokes around here is $4.50 or so, making $1 off deals and such a manageable option. Taxes are going to take a hike again here shortly though, bumping the cost up by $1.25/pack, and I just can’t handle that.

Anyway, about a year ago I bought an Encore (808D-1 3.7v battery) e-cig kit out of curiosity from a local tobacco shop. I didn’t know jack about them. My wife and I used them on and off for a few weeks and pretty much forgot about them. The flavors that came with the kit (tobacco and menthol) didn’t taste anything like it and it was almost impossible to get an appreciable amount of vapor out of them. Flash forward a year, I’m fed up with smokes and ready to quit, so I pick the ecig back up. No point in buying a new kit since we have two good batteries, so I head down to the local smoke shop and pick up new Encore branded cartomizers, $15 for 5. I got the sampler which included vanilla, strawberry, grape, menthol and tobacco. The three flavors I hadn’t tried were good and I got hooked pretty immediately (seems like they changed their juice for menthol and tobacco too, though the tobacco still sucks). I haven’t smoked a cigarette for two days, and in the last week have had a total of maybe 15 cigarettes. I have two packs of 5 filled carts coming from V4L, after that I plan to start filling my own.

I’m going through about one 16mg cartomizer a day, cost is definitely lower than buying smokes at the corner store, but I think I can do better. I plan on giving up the nicotine portion altogether, starting with 0mg juice as soon as I get this all figured out. I’ve never seemed to have much of a difficult time kicking that addiction, but I’m so physiologically addicted to the act of “smoking” that it’s a real ..... to kick. I’ve done a lot of research on refilling, and think I can manage that with little to no issue, but my big concern right now is finding a battery / cartomizer / tank I want to stick with (808D-1 or eGo is what I’ve narrowed it down to) and a reputable vendor to buy from. I can see putting down around $100 to get set up with the system I want to stick with and feeling good about the decision, which brings me to my questions.

What vendor(s) carry quality products at a reasonable price with decent support?

Cartomizers & Battery: I know there are a handful of different cart types, and that’s about it. I know there are some that work better for 808D-1 and others for 501 and others that won’t work well for either because they’re too power hungry or the resistance doesn’t meet the voltage in the middle. I’m completely lost and have yet to find some sort of complete list of differences that match resistance with voltage, and voltage with battery type. Here is what I’m looking for:

• A lasting battery. My current e-cig lasts about 8 hours at my current usage. I don’t plan to increase usage, but more than 8 hours would be nice.
• Cost of blank carts / options. I don’t want to be stuck with one style.
• Cost of battery. Depending on capacity I’d like to get at least 2 batteries and chargers. This way my wife and I could both have one of whatever I choose to get and a backup of what we currently have. I’m not sure on compatibility of chargers with different battery types, it seems like every charger has a different rating for mA out, and it’s one of those things that I haven’t seen explained much at all on any vendor’s website.
• Flavors, size and cost of juice. Starting out I’d probably rather get smaller containers of juice in a handful of flavors, but eventually I’m sure I’ll want to go up to 30ml or higher. I haven’t really found a decent vendor that offers a scope of different sizes, I’ve mainly been looking on V4L who offer 7ml and 30ml, but it seems to be at disproportionate prices. Maybe I’m just too frugal, can’t get something for nothing =).

I know this is getting a bit muddled and long winded, sorry about that. On carts again, is there a major difference between normal carts and tanks with internal carts? Are there benefits to using tanks + atomizer over reusing cartomizers or tanks with cartomizers integrated?

Is there a resource available online that offers some sort of list with a comparison of all these different things? Cart types and compatibility with batteries is really what’s giving me the most trouble. I don’t want to sink money in to this just to buy incompatible parts and spend more to dig myself out of a bad purchase.

I’m a tech guy, I build computers all the time, but this e-cig thing just seems complicated as hell. A whole new ball park.

Thank you very much.

Just a few suggestions here: first, I'd stick with either a 510 (my pref) or a KR808, BUT realize there are inexpensive adapters available so you can use attys or cartos from one on batteries from the other. Also I use an E-Power 14650 because it has a 510 threading, regulated 3.7 volts (unlike an eGo which I understand will drop down to around 3.3 or so), and uses an inexpensive non-proprietary li-ion 14650 battery. This PV is a little bit bigger than a standard eGo but the batt. is 1050mah, which is also nice.

As to vendors, generally there are many and those best for hardware aren't the same as those with the best liquids. My experience in these matters is quite limited but Crystal Clear Vaping has free shipping & I've read good reports on their liquids; also they have good deals on qty. 15 Boge cartos - I'd get the 2.0 ohm for big batteries or 3.0 for your 808s, if they have them... and for the big batts they have the Resurrector cartos in (I believe) 1.7 ohms that'll knock your socks off.

Other folks can better advise you on this stuff, as I've been mixing my own juices for a good while now, but a lot of good juice vendors encourage buyers to try sample packages to see what they like and that's certainly a good idea. Welcome, and Happy vaping!

 

[hulsey76]

Lasting Battery: E-go 650maH or 1000maH pass thru. The battery lasts a long time on it's own, but it will also allow you to charge while you continue to vape via USB. This is very convenient if you spend a lot of time near your computer. These run $20-$24, respectively.

Carts/Atty's: I like the 510 Tank system above all others. It is compatible with the battery above. The 510-T atomizers run $7-10 each. I give Totally Wicked a score of 9 out of 10 for theirs, and Kingpin I give a 7 out of 10, but they cost less. The TW tank atty's seem to last forever, but you'll still need some spares JIC. As for carts, Kingpin has 510-T carts at $0.85 each, and Totally Wicked has a 5 pack for $10. I like the more expensive ones better, but I am buying the cheaper ones right now.

Juice: I love love love TW Titan e-liquid, but it is pricey. A 20ml bottle runs $13. I have also used some no-name Chinese stuff that was so-so. Didn't hate it, but didn't love it. I prefer using American or UK made brands just because I trust the chemistry more.

This is the simplest, most effective set up for *my* personal needs. It *may* work well for you also. I am a former HEAVY smoker. I use 36mg strength fluid, and have found menthol varieties give me the best vaping experience. Because of this, I have absolutely no desire to smoke an analog ever again. My habit now costs me about $40/month. Needless to say, I'm very happy about this. Good luck to you!

 

[bigtiime]

Welcome the the ECF cookdawg! This might also be of help to you. The ECF Library After you read all of that and your brain is spinning in your skull, head over to Hoosier and take a look at the KGO or E-Power. Both are very strong kits and well received here. I personally like the E-Power as it does not use proprietary batteries as most of the "ego" style kits do.

E-Power From Smok Tech and HECS

KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

 

[Black Tooth Grin]

If you are a tech guy and happen to already know how to solder, check out Madvapes and look for Mod Kits. Build your own for cheap, and the batteries for the smaller kits are about 900mah(and cheaper). That is my third generation of e-cigs and I absolutely love it. Plus that will open even more doors for you into the e-cig realm, then suddenly you will have a large tackle box of parts for building your own mods out of anything not bolted down. Then you can try the DIY liquids, which isn't really as hard as it sounds.
For me, I was looking for that tobacco flavor to help me kick the analogs. It took six different vendors, and I finally went looking for answers here on ECF. It might sound ridiculous, but the best liquids I found were on Inawera Flavors in Poland. I have bought from them twice, the flavors take a little longer to get to Wyoming(2 weeks) but it is the only thing that could give me the satisfaction that smoking did, and ultimately helped me to quit for good. That might be a little ways down the road for you, but when you are ready, you will know, just check it out.
One thing I learned is that none of us in this community do the exact same thing.
I like atomizers, particularly the 901, vaping with a large battery mod that I built, vaping DIY e-liquid I made and I am finally content. Good luck finding whatever might work for you.

 

[dearme]

Please understand that there is a huge difference between carts (cartridges) and cartos (cartomizers). Stay away from carts unless you like juice in your mouth and like to continually fill it.

Get a PV and cartos. The current favorite is the Kgo. It's 3.7 volt and you can buy one from Hoosier for about 45.00. It has a 1100mah battery and will last you a day, maybe a day and a half and has plenty of power to have the option of playing around with lots of bits and pieces to find your perfect vape. If you want something that you won't have to fill all the time, get a carto tank to put on your PV. It will hold 3ml of juice and last you all day.

Lots of people have problems with the Ego-T leaking. The T part is just a large cart. You have to use it with an atty and the Ego is 3.4 volt, not 3.7 volt. You will want the extra power.

Also, I have to say, do not start with 0 or a very low nic eliquid. Most new members start with either 18mg or 24mg. This way you will have no cravings for a cigarette. You can slowly lower your nic down to 0 in small steps later on.

 

[PaporPlas]

Two different kits that are awesome and great prices:

KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

eGo Dual carto case kit

 

[Staceylt40]

I’m pretty new to the e-cig world and have a boat load of questions. Back story first.

I was a pack and a half a day smoker and my main motivation to quit was cost. A pack of premium smokes around here is $4.50 or so, making $1 off deals and such a manageable option. Taxes are going to take a hike again here shortly though, bumping the cost up by $1.25/pack, and I just can’t handle that.

Anyway, about a year ago I bought an Encore (808D-1 3.7v battery) e-cig kit out of curiosity from a local tobacco shop. I didn’t know jack about them. My wife and I used them on and off for a few weeks and pretty much forgot about them. The flavors that came with the kit (tobacco and menthol) didn’t taste anything like it and it was almost impossible to get an appreciable amount of vapor out of them. Flash forward a year, I’m fed up with smokes and ready to quit, so I pick the ecig back up. No point in buying a new kit since we have two good batteries, so I head down to the local smoke shop and pick up new Encore branded cartomizers, $15 for 5. I got the sampler which included vanilla, strawberry, grape, menthol and tobacco. The three flavors I hadn’t tried were good and I got hooked pretty immediately (seems like they changed their juice for menthol and tobacco too, though the tobacco still sucks). I haven’t smoked a cigarette for two days, and in the last week have had a total of maybe 15 cigarettes. I have two packs of 5 filled carts coming from V4L, after that I plan to start filling my own.

I’m going through about one 16mg cartomizer a day, cost is definitely lower than buying smokes at the corner store, but I think I can do better. I plan on giving up the nicotine portion altogether, starting with 0mg juice as soon as I get this all figured out. I’ve never seemed to have much of a difficult time kicking that addiction, but I’m so physiologically addicted to the act of “smoking” that it’s a real ..... to kick. I’ve done a lot of research on refilling, and think I can manage that with little to no issue, but my big concern right now is finding a battery / cartomizer / tank I want to stick with (808D-1 or eGo is what I’ve narrowed it down to) and a reputable vendor to buy from. I can see putting down around $100 to get set up with the system I want to stick with and feeling good about the decision, which brings me to my questions.

What vendor(s) carry quality products at a reasonable price with decent support?

Cartomizers & Battery: I know there are a handful of different cart types, and that’s about it. I know there are some that work better for 808D-1 and others for 501 and others that won’t work well for either because they’re too power hungry or the resistance doesn’t meet the voltage in the middle. I’m completely lost and have yet to find some sort of complete list of differences that match resistance with voltage, and voltage with battery type. Here is what I’m looking for:

• A lasting battery. My current e-cig lasts about 8 hours at my current usage. I don’t plan to increase usage, but more than 8 hours would be nice.
• Cost of blank carts / options. I don’t want to be stuck with one style.
• Cost of battery. Depending on capacity I’d like to get at least 2 batteries and chargers. This way my wife and I could both have one of whatever I choose to get and a backup of what we currently have. I’m not sure on compatibility of chargers with different battery types, it seems like every charger has a different rating for mA out, and it’s one of those things that I haven’t seen explained much at all on any vendor’s website.
• Flavors, size and cost of juice. Starting out I’d probably rather get smaller containers of juice in a handful of flavors, but eventually I’m sure I’ll want to go up to 30ml or higher. I haven’t really found a decent vendor that offers a scope of different sizes, I’ve mainly been looking on V4L who offer 7ml and 30ml, but it seems to be at disproportionate prices. Maybe I’m just too frugal, can’t get something for nothing =).

I know this is getting a bit muddled and long winded, sorry about that. On carts again, is there a major difference between normal carts and tanks with internal carts? Are there benefits to using tanks + atomizer over reusing cartomizers or tanks with cartomizers integrated?

Is there a resource available online that offers some sort of list with a comparison of all these different things? Cart types and compatibility with batteries is really what’s giving me the most trouble. I don’t want to sink money in to this just to buy incompatible parts and spend more to dig myself out of a bad purchase.

I’m a tech guy, I build computers all the time, but this e-cig thing just seems complicated as hell. A whole new ball park.

Thank you very much.

First, Welcome )

Second, I agree with the others on not going all gung-ho on 0mg nic. I quit smoking and started vaping a month ago. The first week I would have totally caved if it wasn't for 18mg nic. Seriously, the urges are stronger than you think. lol I was not a heavy smoker either. A month into it and I keep 1 carto of 16mg nic and the rest are 0mg so I can vape vape vape and not get a headache from the nic. My favorite flavors are from ECBlends: Banana (tastes like banana taffy), vanilla swirl and butterscotch. I would have never in a million years thought these would be my go to flavors. So don't be close minded to try flavors.

And Third..... Have you looked at the Smokeless Image Volt? Its pretty awesome!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...87974-official-smokelessimage-com-thread.html

Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Electronic Cigarettes | Wholesale Electronic Cigarettes | E-Cigarette | Best Electronic Cigarette | Electronic Cigarette

 

[Huuwap]

On the nic thing - I've gone cold turkey before, made it 3 months and only went back because my wife was still smoking and cigarettes were on hand. It's the social aspect and the smoking action that draws me to them, the nicotine thing sucks at first but goes away in a few days. Everybody's different in that respect. Going to 0mg is going to suck for a few days, but being able to pick up a "cigarette" and puff on it will be phenomenally easier than chewing 5 packs of Wrigley's a day for a month, lol.

At this point I'm seriously considering the KGO. I've been looking at the E-Power 14650 too. Cost doesn't seem to be too incredibly different when looking at kits for both, about $10 more for the E-Power. The appealing thing about the E-Power is interchangeable parts, and the KGO just seems like less "work" in general, probably a lot easier to explain to my wife how to use.

On the tech guy front, I'm not sure I'm ready to leap into mods. I don't have much in the way of soldering experience, and I definitely want to learn more about how the electricity works in a finished e-cig before I play Frankenstein.

Sorry about the cart / carto thing. I've only ever used cartomizers and plan to continue using them, but as far as tanks and things go I'm still feeling out the mechanics. I'm not sure if tanks are used solely when there is a separate atomizer or if there's some carto hybrid (which I'm led to believe from what I've been reading) available.

I will say the hardest part is reading about how this all works, the parts required, what people use, and doing a search on it to figure out pricing or how what is mentioned is used. For example, the E-Power 14650, doing a search for that takes me to Smok Tek, and pretty much only Smok Tek, and I've learned next to nothing, lol. That is until I saw the post about hoosier in this thread and a link to a review on this forum, which raised a whole host of other questions that I'm running into the same walls with. I want to spend a max of $75 and get two e-cigs that will last a reasonable period of time, can be repaired when a part fails or be cheaply replaced, offer a good amount of options on vaporizing style (which I still feel like I know squat about) and comes with a charger, which I'm assuming all kits will. I don't want to mess up with amperage coming from an adapter that will just destroy a battery. I just don't want to mess up and decide that another kit would fit better after I've already invested a hefty chunk of change into one style.

I'm still just a bit lost, lol. I like hearing your preferences, and those are definitely helping, especially the trusted shops that just don't come up in search results. I've learned a lot since looking for a way out of paying the steep prices from Encore, $20 for 5 filled cartomizers online, $15 local...just crazy.

 

[Huuwap]

I have to say again, thanks for all the help. I just made an order for the KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit and 2 packs of Boge 2.0ohm LR cartomizers from Hoosier, as well as a couple different juice flavors from ECBlend (45ml total, 70% PG 30% VG, should last a little while) and a syringe for filling. Total damage was around $75, which is exactly what I was looking for to get started.

Not sure how long the Boge cartos will last, but I'm crossing my fingers to get a month out of them at least. What's the best way to clean them if / when they clog? I've heard boiling works just about as well as anything, but I'm really not sure, having never done it in the past, LOL.

I'm really interested in the Dual Coil Cartomizer Tank Kit from Hoosier, but don't really want to make the leap there until I'm sure on a flavor I like and get some feedback on how well they work. What kind of battery life hit and extra juice burn (if any) do you see with the DC carto?

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Welcome the the ECF cookdawg! This might also be of help to you. The ECF Library After you read all of that and your brain is spinning in your skull, head over to Hoosier and take a look at the KGO or E-Power. Both are very strong kits and well received here. I personally like the E-Power as it does not use proprietary batteries as most of the "ego" style kits do.

E-Power From Smok Tech and HECS

KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

I'll have to ditto the recommendation for the E-Power, but since you're looking for two PVs I'd suggest checking this deal out first: E-Power 14650 Dual Kit I've been using one of these since back in August or September (before the "switch" issue) and haven't had a minute's trouble with it... in short, I love it. So after seeing your post last night I checked with smoktek to make sure, and he e-mailed me assuring that these units have the "resolved issue" switch installed. (Long story short, there was a failed attempt to "upgrade" the switches and it scared a lot of folks off, but it appears the duds have been pulled.) Happy Vaping!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

I have to say again, thanks for all the help. I just made an order for the KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit and 2 packs of Boge 2.0ohm LR cartomizers from Hoosier, as well as a couple different juice flavors from ECBlend (45ml total, 70% PG 30% VG, should last a little while) and a syringe for filling. Total damage was around $75, which is exactly what I was looking for to get started.

Not sure how long the Boge cartos will last, but I'm crossing my fingers to get a month out of them at least. What's the best way to clean them if / when they clog? I've heard boiling works just about as well as anything, but I'm really not sure, having never done it in the past, LOL.

I'm really interested in the Dual Coil Cartomizer Tank Kit from Hoosier, but don't really want to make the leap there until I'm sure on a flavor I like and get some feedback on how well they work. What kind of battery life hit and extra juice burn (if any) do you see with the DC carto?

Woops, looks like I was a little late with my previous post, but I expect you made a good choice with the KGO kit. I also think you'll enjoy the BOGE 2.0 ohm cartos... I expect they'll hold up pretty well between cleanings provided you're using fairly clear liquids and don't use different liquids in the same carto. There are several different cleaning methods & I'm still playing with a few, haven't decided which is best just yet. Also if you're planning to try different juices I'd suggest getting at least a couple of dripping atomizers to test them before putting them into cartos, tanks, etc. I like to use a 306 LR and a 306 SR (more or less - like maybe 1.7 ohm & 2.5 - 3.0 ohm). The 306 diameter is slightly smaller than the 510 but the thread pattern is the same and for some reason they just seem to drip better than the 510 attys. I have not tried tanks simply because I haven't seen much point in them, so I can't offer any advice on those; so far for going out & about the larger cartos suit me just fine. They are available in many different sizes, and your KGO should be able to handle LR or SR, single or dual coil cartos just fine, giving you a lot of room to play. Happy Vaping!

 

[neozoNeR]

Buy a Provari. It'll become the standard to which you'll judge all other PVs, not that you'd need any others.

 

[dearme]

Each carto should last 5 to 7 days, depending on your eliquid. Dark juices or juices with sediment will shorten the life of a carto. You might try cleaning the carto at this point, but it's not really worth the trouble IMO. You can buy a 5/pk of cartos for 7.00. That's only 1.40 a week for the carto. Splurge and put a new one on.

 

[Huuwap]

I have to say, Hoosier definitely exceeded my expectations. I ordered late last night and just got a shipping confirmation from them...I expected a day or two between ordering and getting a shipping confirmation. Props to Hoosier, and everybody in this thread to suggest them.