LR Atty

[JustMeAgain]

When it comes to HV vaping, the one thing that I don't care for is the warmth of the vapor.

Weird, I know, I think most people love it.

So I've decided that a freshly charged 3.7 battery works for me.

I've been tempted to try a LR atty, but when it comes to 'simulating' HV vaping, does that include the warmer temperature to the vapor or is it more of a increased vapor, throat hit thing?

Thanks!

 

[Mr. Mom]

It depends. LR attys are going to run hotter than a standard atty on 3.7. Whether or not it will be as warm as a HV vape depends on a lot of factors. In theory, it should be cooler than a HV setup. Anyone else?

 

[DC2]

I found the LR atomizer to pretty much mimic my high voltage experiences in every way.
Which, and I echo your sentiments, I don't like that much.

But then I tried them on my stock 510 batteries even though you aren't supposed to.
And I really, really, really like that combination.

They turned my 510 stock battery experience into that of a 3.7v Chuck.
Imagine how thrilled I am to think I can use that for a night out without sacrficing anything.

The problem is, again, supposedly you aren't supposed to do this.
So I am checking into it further to find out why not.

 

[doots]

It depends. LR attys are going to run hotter than a standard atty on 3.7. Whether or not it will be as warm as a HV vape depends on a lot of factors. In theory, it should be cooler than a HV setup. Anyone else?

Yes LR's are cooler than HV at 6v..

 

[CJsKee]

I found the LR atomizer to pretty much mimic my high voltage experiences in every way.
Which, and I echo your sentiments, I don't like that much.

But then I tried them on my stock 510 batteries even though you aren't supposed to.
And I really, really, really like that combination.

They turned my 510 stock battery experience into that of a 3.7v Chuck.
Imagine how thrilled I am to think I can use that for a night out without sacrficing anything.

The problem is, again, supposedly you aren't supposed to do this.
So I am checking into it further to find out why not.

Me, too, DC2...can you post again if you find out why?

 

[DC2]

Me, too, DC2...can you post again if you find out why?

I sure will.

I submitted the question in the Ask the Experts section yesterday.
It has not been posted yet.

 

[JustMeAgain]

I found the LR atomizer to pretty much mimic my high voltage experiences in every way.
Which, and I echo your sentiments, I don't like that much.

But then I tried them on my stock 510 batteries even though you aren't supposed to.
And I really, really, really like that combination.

They turned my 510 stock battery experience into that of a 3.7v Chuck.
Imagine how thrilled I am to think I can use that for a night out without sacrficing anything.

The problem is, again, supposedly you aren't supposed to do this.
So I am checking into it further to find out why not.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the LR concept ~ I thought they were meant to be used on either 3.7 or stock batteries.

When you said they mimic HV in every way, were you using them on a 3.7?

Like a lot of people, i got tired of the way the 510 voltage takes a nosedive after a short while ~ are you not noticing that as much when you use a LR atty on a 510?

 

[JustMeAgain]

It depends. LR attys are going to run hotter than a standard atty on 3.7. Whether or not it will be as warm as a HV vape depends on a lot of factors. In theory, it should be cooler than a HV setup. Anyone else?

Thanks, Mr. Mom...BTW, I'm using a Spade and I'm liking it very much. But it seems like they're being phased out or something sooner than I'd expect. It's a nice device. Am I just misunderstanding the fact that ya'll don't have them in stock very often and it's something you will continue to carry?

Yes LR's are cooler than HV at 6v..

Thanks, doots....I guess I need to order a couple, then. The HV experience w/out the warmth sounds ideal.

 

[BuzzKill]

Its really about the POWER that is produced , a LR atty is say 1.5 ohms if that runs at 3.7 volts it produces 9.1 watts ~.

A 6 volt device with a 3.3 ohm atty produces 10.9 watts

Very close in comparison , they will produce very close to the same HEAT as well.

Using a low current battery or to be more accurate a LoW Discharge rate battery pushes the battery way beyond the specifications for discharge . this can reduce the batteries life and stress it to the failure point easier .

 

[Kent C]

I sure will.

I submitted the question in the Ask the Experts section yesterday.
It has not been posted yet.

Here's my view (and an answer to your question ;-)


I don't know why the limitation on mAh - makes no sense to me because the combination of volts and ohms are the only consideration on current, Not how long a battery lasts.

That said, I use LR attys on megas and have used them on regular batts as well with no ill affects and an enhanced vapor like you've experienced. The lower mAh batts, of course, will need charging earlier.(likely the reason for the restrictions but I assumed you already knew that ;-) I burnt out 2 regular 510 atty on a 5V Bart in one day by not paying attention. And have burnt out a few LR's on the 3.7v Bart as well. There's virtually no problem with 10440 batts with the LRs and I think ScottBee reported burning out two TorneGo batts with the LR 510 at 1.5ohm. There are newer SLB 2.0 ohm 510's now and I have some on order. SLB isn't my favorite 510 though. We'll see.

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And oddly the 1.5 801 atty doesn't quite act the same - good vapor but runs cooler - I don't know if 'mass' is involved or what but it is what I have on all my Janty/Joye sticks. Still, for someone who enjoys the regular 801 style attys for the truly cool vapor and flavor the LR might distract from that experience.

 

[BuzzKill]

Kent they really should be looking at the " C " Rate of the battery , this is the DISCHARGE rate specification like "2C" = 2 x's the charge rate .
LOW "C" batteries should not be used for LR attys , they stress the battery .
FYI

 

[Kent C]

Kent they really should be looking at the " C " Rate of the battery , this is the DISCHARGE rate specification like "2C" = 2 x's the charge rate .
LOW "C" batteries should not be used for LR attys , they stress the battery .
FYI

That would be a much better 'limitation' than mAh, which, again, really makes little sense.

 

[DC2]

I sure will.

I submitted the question in the Ask the Experts section yesterday.
It has not been posted yet.

So I got some answers in the Ask the Experts section.
But they were not conclusive by any means.

So since I have 30 manual 510 batteries I hardly use anymore, I will go for it.
I'll report back when I come to a conclusion.

 

[DC2]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the LR concept ~ I thought they were meant to be used on either 3.7 or stock batteries.

When you said they mimic HV in every way, were you using them on a 3.7?

I was using them on my 3.7v+ Chuck and it was like going high voltage.
Didn't really like it that much.

Like a lot of people, i got tired of the way the 510 voltage takes a nosedive after a short while ~ are you not noticing that as much when you use a LR atty on a 510?

So then I put that thing on my stock 510 battery (3.2v) and LOVED it.
It acted just about like my beloved Chucks.

I am just concerned about it killing my battery or something.

Not entirely clear yet on what it will do to my stock battery yet.
But I'll find out eventually, it's just that I only use them once every week or two.

So it may be awhile before I have solid feedback to report.

 

[Twisted]

I use the LR 801 (or Classic) on a Screwdriver. I like it mainly because its not hot and produces a lot of vapor. They do eat my battery's up about twice as fast but that's an acceptable trade off for me.

My 2c..

 

[JustMeAgain]

Edit: Found the answer here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-lr-atomizers-510-stock-180mah-batteries.html

I was using them on my 3.7v+ Chuck and it was like going high voltage.
Didn't really like it that much.

So then I put that thing on my stock 510 battery (3.2v) and LOVED it.
It acted just about like my beloved Chucks.

I am just concerned about it killing my battery or something.

Not entirely clear yet on what it will do to my stock battery yet.
But I'll find out eventually, it's just that I only use them once every week or two.

So it may be awhile before I have solid feedback to report.

I'm bumping this because I'm wondering if DC2 ever came to any conclusions.