Lung Hitting tank

[Nate Rager]

Lately I have been slipping a bit when it comes to smoking. I went about 6 months cigarette free and was vaping exclusively. Problem is I am a dripper. I strongly prefer dripping as I can get big satisfying lung hits. But, the process of dripping has become tedious. Especially when I am driving the simplicity of smoking wins out.

I have a Russian full size but the draw is not capable of providing lung hits so it pretty much just sits. I have seen a couple of reviews on the Erlkönigin but I can't find a US supplier anywhere.

Do any of the Kayfuns open up enough to get what I need? Maybe a rose v2? Know where I can get a Erlkönigin? Something gotta happen here for me.

 

[MrPlink]

I would consider a genesis style rba as they can get A LOT closer to a dripper than a Kayfun style can.

They are trickier to set up and not quite as pocket friendly but it is probably going to be closer to your desired results .

a bottom fed dripping mod like a REO also may make more sense for you

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

As a previous poster mentioned, a genesis style tank will be similar to dripping. The most you'll have to do while driving is tilt the tank for make sure the coil is well juiced. If you wick it with stainless steel, I heard you may not even need to do this, but I've been unsuccessful at this. Another idea is to get a Reo. It's a box mod that carries a juice bottle on board. The juice bottle is attached to a tube that leads up to a bottom feeding dripper. You would squeeze the bottle through a hole in the box mod to juice the coil.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

As for the Erlkonigin, there are no USA vendors at this time I think. I have one on the way from Austria though. Used paypal to pay them, and Paypal did the US to Euro conversion for me.

 

[cdsaint66]

I'll back up the recommendation for a Genesis style. I don't do lung hits on anything.... EXCEPT my Zenesis Sidewinder. I find I almost have to do lung hits with it. The Zenesis atomizer has a great airy draw that really lends itself to lung hits. I don't have any experience with REO's.... yet, but from listening to the fans one would probably work for you as well.

 

[Nate Rager]

A reo has been on my list for a while to get. I just wish they had a DNA 30 version. Been using my hana exclusively since I got it, my mechs just sit around. I have a richman hybrid and a prometheus but haven't been able to get them to wick properly. Always end up with dry hits and hot legs whether I use cotton, stainless, or both. I would probably love them if I could get them to work well.

Maybe I should look into the reo with the low resistance kit...

 

[rabernet]

A reo has been on my list for a while to get. I just wish they had a DNA 30 version. Been using my hana exclusively since I got it, my mechs just sit around. I have a richman hybrid and a prometheus but haven't been able to get them to wick properly. Always end up with dry hits and hot legs whether I use cotton, stainless, or both. I would probably love them if I could get them to work well.

Maybe I should look into the reo with the low resistance kit...

All new Reo's now come with the low resistance contacts installed. It's all I vape now.

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[SteamHead]

Lots of great suggestions here. You may also want to look at a Fogger V4, they're supposed to have a really open draw.

 

[Dissonance]

Fogger V4. Cheap, effective, and the air flow wide open is amazing. It's the only RTA I've found that I don't have to drill out.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Genesis type atomizers can be wicked with various methods, the cotton method I find most reliable uses very little cotton and is not wicked into the deck of the atomizer at all.

Seeing as you are used to dripping I'll suggest making at least one more go at a genesis build using the following method; on the Prometheus go for a resistance in the 0.25 to 0.30 ohm range with dual coils (that's about 3/2 on 3mm or 1/8" w. 28g a1, you should be able to make both coils with 6" of wire), you'll make the two open macro coils just like you would for a dripper and fiddle with them till they look identical with even spacing and angle to the wraps. Put them on the Prometheus and pulse in the coils, at this point your going to do a bit of positioning to make sure none of the coil short out on the positive post (pulse, adjust, repeat as needed). Once you have the coils situated you'll wick them exactly as you would a vertical coil build on a dripper (the bottom of the wick just needs to be cut flush with the deck directly above the wick hole).

Both the 3mm or 1/8" diameter coils will give you a good bit of wick for a healthy lung hit with that low of an ohm build, yes you will want to do the genny tilt to make sure the wicks are in contact with the liquid, but for all intents and purposes on a good battery you could very well out perform a dripper because there is always a constant renewal of liquid to the wicks.

Building with mesh or cable is far different than the whole dripper thing so I think the above method is likely best in your case being used to the dripping experience.

As for draw, I don't mess with adjustable draw gennies, I just drill them out to one 5/64" per coil on dual coils or 3/32" for singles and call it a day, obviously there is a lot of room for preference in draw. The one bit of advice I can offer with drilling out air holes is to place the top cap in a 90deg angle to brace it (I use the door trim in my home).

Maurice

 

[steel bender]

I lung hit with my kayfun all day. My air hole is drilled out to 3/32 and the center pin to 5/64. Problem is, you have to be super careful with that center pin. I cracked the second pin I tried drilling out that much when I went to screw it back into the positive deck. It was just too thin and I had to get a replacement from fat daddy, haven't had the guts to drill that one out yet. But I've had no problems at all with the first one I did.

 

[vapdivrr]

another vote for the fogger v-4. a great tank for the money and no modifying for lung hits. this atty is really a pretty fantastic tank.

 

[vapdivrr]

I lung hit with my kayfun all day. My air hole is drilled out to 3/32 and the center pin to 5/64. Problem is, you have to be super careful with that center pin. I cracked the second pin I tried drilling out that much when I went to screw it back into the positive deck. It was just too thin and I had to get a replacement from fat daddy, haven't had the guts to drill that one out yet. But I've had no problems at all with the first one I did.

i also have drilled out all 4 of my kayfuns to 3/32. one thing i haven't done is to drill out the center pin, i looked at it and thought about it, but it looked pretty much maxed out so i never attempted. and yes this modify does allow for a lung hit but imo just barely. is there a big difference between the one that has the 5/54ths center and the one that doesn't?

 

[folkphys]

I like the Aqua. It's a big breather, simple set up, tool-free filling, and even though the Foggers are a bit airier I think they mute flavor somewhat. Plus, the Aqua has bigger wick/juice channels (than the Foggers) and no glass for me to break. Of course, it has been awhile since I used cotton with Rayon and RxW being my current preferred wicking materials.

 

[wrath186]

+1 for the Fogger V4. I set one up last night, opened it up all the way and got a huge lung hit. I don't usually prefer them that airy, but it was interesting to try.

 

[hippesthippo]

Fogger v4 sounds perfect for your needs out of the box. Plenty of airflow, dual coils.. I pretty much wick mine like a dripper as well.

Another option to consider would be modding a Kayfun or Taifun. I drilled my Taifun GT airhole out to 7/64, hit it with a counter-sinik, and removed the airtube/gasket on the deck. After modding, my (H-Cigar) Taifun GT is my currently my fav atty. Nice, smooth, long, tassssty lung hits. Better flavor than the Fogger in my opinion, and you can re-wick without emptying the tank.

If interested in going the mod route, check out Cloud50's videos on YouTube. I followed his method to a 'T,' and the results are amazing.. I do use Rayon instead of Cotton, however.

 

[hippesthippo]

i also have drilled out all 4 of my kayfuns to 3/32. one thing i haven't done is to drill out the center pin, i looked at it and thought about it, but it looked pretty much maxed out so i never attempted. and yes this modify does allow for a lung hit but imo just barely. is there a big difference between the one that has the 5/54ths center and the one that doesn't?

Instead of drilling out the center-pin on your Kayfuns, just hit it with a counter sink.. Same result, as the ID of the airtube is actually pretty maxed out. The limiting factor is where it tapers up at the top. Less risk involved.

 

[brickfollett]

BIG plus one for the Reo.

I have mine with a modified Trident V2. Lung hits all day long. Really you can have any full size dripper modified to a bottom feeder to function on a LP Reo Grand. Its pretty much all I use.

 

[steel bender]

i also have drilled out all 4 of my kayfuns to 3/32. one thing i haven't done is to drill out the center pin, i looked at it and thought about it, but it looked pretty much maxed out so i never attempted. and yes this modify does allow for a lung hit but imo just barely. is there a big difference between the one that has the 5/54ths center and the one that doesn't?

I'm going to say it depends, lol...

When I first drilled it out, I thought it made a huge difference, but when I compare it to the one I got from fatdaddy, there isn't too much of a difference. So maybe not all pins are created equally...

 

[ConradM]

I can lung hit my RSST all day with the plug out. With the plug in I can get a few good pulls before the wick dries out and I have to let it re-soak. But the Fogger V4's are supposed to be good.