M201 & 402: My dream e-cigs!
- Thread starter Fedor
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Sorry i missed this question. My very first purchase from Absolutelyecigs was a 2 hole atomiser. So i only have 3 of these atomisers. So far, 2 is still working after 4 months. I agree that they are inferior to the 4 holes but there are fans of the 2 holes as well. I'm totally sold with the easier draw with the 4 holes. Performance wise, the 4 hole is only slightly better for me.
Wow, 4 Months?!?! I know that your rotating, but that's really a testament to their durability. Absolutely just sent out my 3rd order, and i have some of their juice with that order. Will report back with a short review, thoughts/feelings with how it preforms.
Hmmm...I don't find the draw that easy with my attys (the 4-hole). Just got new ones, though I know these have to be broken in somewhat before they start really performing. Definitely a better draw when dripping (or dipping) as opposed to using a cart. Sometimes I feel like I can't suck any air past the cart. I think I tend to overfill these though, haven't quite got that down yet like I have with my 901.
I find the batts cut off before the 7-second mark quite often.
I find the batts cut off before the 7-second mark quite often.
As mentioned earlier, the hard draw might be due to the carts not being pushed down low enough, resulting in no space for air to pass through. Since you drip, this could be possible when you push the inner cart up but did not push it back all the way down.
Some suppliers might still be stocking the older 5 second cut off model. Get some new batteries from suppliers who can confirm that they are the newer ones. The newer ones should give you up to 9-10 seconds before cutting off...
yesterday it happened,
like a switch in the atomizer, suddenly the pull was better and the vapor increased dramatically, not sure how or what but now it just works.
it took about 2 weeks, (of which I spent most of my time on the dse 901 and just used the m401 off and on) but now it seems just right. not quite as much vapor as the 901 but definitely better than before. it also seems like the batteries are working better.
like a switch in the atomizer, suddenly the pull was better and the vapor increased dramatically, not sure how or what but now it just works.
it took about 2 weeks, (of which I spent most of my time on the dse 901 and just used the m401 off and on) but now it seems just right. not quite as much vapor as the 901 but definitely better than before. it also seems like the batteries are working better.
Just wanted to give the gang an update. I ordered from AEC Saturday afternoon which i guess is sunday in china. As of tonite, thursday evening, this is usps sites listing.
Inbound Out of Customs, May 07, 2009, 1:16 pm
Inbound Into Customs
Inbound International Arrival, May 06, 2009, 12:48 pm, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Foreign International Dispatch, May 04, 2009, 11:41 pm, SHANGHAI EMS, CHINA PEOPLES REP
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
Foreign Acceptance, May 04, 2009, 4:44 pm
Thats making pretty good time coming from China. Excitement to recieve my package is reaching a fever pitch, lolol. Im hoping for a friday or saturday delivery but will be happy just getting it all here intact.
Thanx again to everyone on this forum that has provided the wealth of info anyone would need to dump analogs and get healthy with PV's.
Silver
Inbound Out of Customs, May 07, 2009, 1:16 pm
Thats making pretty good time coming from China. Excitement to recieve my package is reaching a fever pitch, lolol. Im hoping for a friday or saturday delivery but will be happy just getting it all here intact.
Thanx again to everyone on this forum that has provided the wealth of info anyone would need to dump analogs and get healthy with PV's.
Silver
Just got my shipment of replacement parts from AEC and they sent a new atomizer design. 4 holes like the old ones, but there is a white plastic bridge under the steel wool mesh... it sits like a little platform over the wire coil. The design looks MUCH beefier.
I immediately charged up the replacement battery and it's the first time I've seen the charger actually STAY green when the battery is fully charged. The draw, even with the old atty, which I've been keeping wet (but not flooded) non stop to get vapored up, the suction was way better. I'm wondering if defective batteries could be the problem on suction problems? Just guessing here, from my own experience.
I'm dripping on the new atomizer to get it juiced up. Without dripping and using a fresh cart, there is NO vapor. It's just too new and dry. I'll see if it breaks in better and produces more vapor than the older style. That would be nice.
Washed about 20 carts today and loaded them up with just the right mix of vg/pg/nic juice and distilled water, so they're ready to go.
My advise to anyone with a new Mxx that won't vape = drip the atomizer like crazy to keep it wet while you are breaking it in. Use an EMPTY cart (no insert) when dripping.
As soon as the vapor dies (and you're sure the battery is charged up) = pull the cart and blow on the stainless mess on the atomizer while attached to the battery.
If you see smoke, it's good b/c it's burning off excess fluid. If you see a lot of smoke, it's good too, because it means the atomizer is flooded and you're drying it out.
After that smoke clears, slap an empty cart back on and you should get some good clean vapor for several puffs.
When that puffs out, put a drop of juice below the mess wick and put a full cart on there. You should get some good vapor then for awhile.
I meant to say on my previous post about a page back where I saw plastic on the old atomizer that was a POS:
it's clear plastic like 6 mil or something. It surrounds the entire outside of the atomizer - wick and all - about 1/8" high maybe? If you have a really sucky atomizer, you might want to break out a flashlight and magnifying glass and check it out.
I tried peeling it off, but it will take a razor knife to get it off. Pulling it just stretches it and breaks it off in pieces. Definitely a QC problem to be there.
I took some pics with my camera of it. If they are viewable I'll upload them later, and pics of the new style atomizer with the plastic bridge.... if I can figure out how to do macro pics on my digi cam. All I see is blur.
Signing off tshooting the Mxx series now, but thought I'd pass on any possible tshooting tips I've learned on this thing.
I'm going to research some real powerhouse e-cig models on the forum and not invest any more time/money on this one. I'm liking the Janty/Joy 510 reviews and videos and the new USA one coming out by puresmoker (?) is the direction I'm going.
I'm looking for something reliable for every toke, rather than hours of trouble shooting to get a few decent vape hits, so this will be a spare toker. Still like the size of it, and if improvements ever make it tokable OUT OF THE BOX and an everytime hitter, unless dry or low batt, I'd be sold and reinvest.
I immediately charged up the replacement battery and it's the first time I've seen the charger actually STAY green when the battery is fully charged. The draw, even with the old atty, which I've been keeping wet (but not flooded) non stop to get vapored up, the suction was way better. I'm wondering if defective batteries could be the problem on suction problems? Just guessing here, from my own experience.
I'm dripping on the new atomizer to get it juiced up. Without dripping and using a fresh cart, there is NO vapor. It's just too new and dry. I'll see if it breaks in better and produces more vapor than the older style. That would be nice.
Washed about 20 carts today and loaded them up with just the right mix of vg/pg/nic juice and distilled water, so they're ready to go.
My advise to anyone with a new Mxx that won't vape = drip the atomizer like crazy to keep it wet while you are breaking it in. Use an EMPTY cart (no insert) when dripping.
As soon as the vapor dies (and you're sure the battery is charged up) = pull the cart and blow on the stainless mess on the atomizer while attached to the battery.
If you see smoke, it's good b/c it's burning off excess fluid. If you see a lot of smoke, it's good too, because it means the atomizer is flooded and you're drying it out.
After that smoke clears, slap an empty cart back on and you should get some good clean vapor for several puffs.
When that puffs out, put a drop of juice below the mess wick and put a full cart on there. You should get some good vapor then for awhile.
I meant to say on my previous post about a page back where I saw plastic on the old atomizer that was a POS:
it's clear plastic like 6 mil or something. It surrounds the entire outside of the atomizer - wick and all - about 1/8" high maybe? If you have a really sucky atomizer, you might want to break out a flashlight and magnifying glass and check it out.
I tried peeling it off, but it will take a razor knife to get it off. Pulling it just stretches it and breaks it off in pieces. Definitely a QC problem to be there.
I took some pics with my camera of it. If they are viewable I'll upload them later, and pics of the new style atomizer with the plastic bridge.... if I can figure out how to do macro pics on my digi cam. All I see is blur.
Signing off tshooting the Mxx series now, but thought I'd pass on any possible tshooting tips I've learned on this thing.
I'm going to research some real powerhouse e-cig models on the forum and not invest any more time/money on this one. I'm liking the Janty/Joy 510 reviews and videos and the new USA one coming out by puresmoker (?) is the direction I'm going.
I'm looking for something reliable for every toke, rather than hours of trouble shooting to get a few decent vape hits, so this will be a spare toker. Still like the size of it, and if improvements ever make it tokable OUT OF THE BOX and an everytime hitter, unless dry or low batt, I'd be sold and reinvest.
Last edited:
Good luck in your search. Sorry that this isn't for you. Mine has served me well and i'm not going anywhere else. Fyi, the 510 has had MUCH more quality issues with batteries and leaking carts compared to the Mseries. The ones that does work seems to be good. Joye is one of my most hated manufacturers so i'll probably not try one yet. Perhaps until all the dust has settled and i see good reviews across the board. Right now, its just a few reviewers getting good complimentary units and a couple of other users.
Silver: Congrats! Sounds like you should be getting your unit tomorrow. Be sure to let us know how everything goes.
Need: sorry about your experiences... yup it definitely sound like your first unit(s) were bums. If you're not too frustrated with it try giving the Ms a week or two to break-in. It would probably take this long for you to get another unit anyway.
The prodigy from PS does sound like a winner, but I'm kind of shy vaping the M201 outdoors, let alone something any larger. I may pick one up if their self-developed atomizer proves to be worthwhile (user-serviceable would be to die for). As for the 510/Dura try PMing Kaeo, he had one and can give you some first hand impressions about its performance.
Other than that, I'd still STRONGLY suggest an M201, it hits like a winner, great vapor, huge carts! Again the only thing that i would want out of it is different colors/leds combinations.
Good luck with your vaping!
Need: sorry about your experiences... yup it definitely sound like your first unit(s) were bums. If you're not too frustrated with it try giving the Ms a week or two to break-in. It would probably take this long for you to get another unit anyway.
The prodigy from PS does sound like a winner, but I'm kind of shy vaping the M201 outdoors, let alone something any larger. I may pick one up if their self-developed atomizer proves to be worthwhile (user-serviceable would be to die for). As for the 510/Dura try PMing Kaeo, he had one and can give you some first hand impressions about its performance.
Other than that, I'd still STRONGLY suggest an M201, it hits like a winner, great vapor, huge carts! Again the only thing that i would want out of it is different colors/leds combinations.
Good luck with your vaping!
Thanx ruuku. And i definitely will be letting you guys know how it goes from start to continuation.
I will take a look into that 201 at a later date. I wanna get some experience under my belt and might look into different models. Ill definitely heed that advice.
Silver
Hey Ruuku - as always you're such a great support. I may give the M-201 a try. I know Smoore is trying to put out a good product. This new atomizer design is definitely a major improvement. Good vape and the new battery charges correctly. Been going strong all night vaping with a great charge.
I just realized this isn't the only thread about the Mxx series and that the forum has a subforum for this model under specific model reviews. Someone on there posted pics of the new atomizer which is available at runyandirect.com. I guess another supplier on the forum?
My son is trying out the M402 for a few days and if he continues to like his 2nd experience with it, we'll stock a few more of the newer parts and have plenty of kits to hand around to neighbors and friends that have never heard of e-cigs. A few extra chargers, attys, carts and batts, will give them a days sampler to try.
Meanwhile I'll look into larger models.
For anyone ordering new kits, be sure to confirm that the newly designed atomizers are in the kit and you should be satisfied out of the box. I don't know if my first batteries were hosed in production or if the new ones are a totally new design, but they are winners too.
I'm enjoying making my own juice too. With all the troubleshooting this thing, I've learned a good consistency for juice to keep the atomizer clean.
I can't recommend enough that whoever tries the M4xx for the first time, that they have some juice on hand to lube the atomizer. If you're a new user like I am (didn't have any on hand)... you can take one of your factory carts > pop out the inner cart with a paper clip > pull the fiber out and squeeze a few drops on the atomizer to get it going.
In my reading, the principles of all models seem to be the same. Keep it from flooding, stay charged and topped up. Anything beyond that after a week is a factory dud lol.
I just realized this isn't the only thread about the Mxx series and that the forum has a subforum for this model under specific model reviews. Someone on there posted pics of the new atomizer which is available at runyandirect.com. I guess another supplier on the forum?
My son is trying out the M402 for a few days and if he continues to like his 2nd experience with it, we'll stock a few more of the newer parts and have plenty of kits to hand around to neighbors and friends that have never heard of e-cigs. A few extra chargers, attys, carts and batts, will give them a days sampler to try.
Meanwhile I'll look into larger models.
For anyone ordering new kits, be sure to confirm that the newly designed atomizers are in the kit and you should be satisfied out of the box. I don't know if my first batteries were hosed in production or if the new ones are a totally new design, but they are winners too.
I'm enjoying making my own juice too. With all the troubleshooting this thing, I've learned a good consistency for juice to keep the atomizer clean.
I can't recommend enough that whoever tries the M4xx for the first time, that they have some juice on hand to lube the atomizer. If you're a new user like I am (didn't have any on hand)... you can take one of your factory carts > pop out the inner cart with a paper clip > pull the fiber out and squeeze a few drops on the atomizer to get it going.
In my reading, the principles of all models seem to be the same. Keep it from flooding, stay charged and topped up. Anything beyond that after a week is a factory dud lol.
new atomizer design for those that haven't seen it:
Golden atomizer for M series mini e-cig - Spare Parts - Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
Golden atomizer for M series mini e-cig - Spare Parts - Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
oh wow I just noticed you can see clear plastic on that one when looking down at the inner coil.
my old atomizer had it wrapped around the whole thing 8-o
my old atomizer had it wrapped around the whole thing 8-o
The draw gets harder even when using the pre-filled carts (I have a bulk order of pre-filled, and I do love their carts). It is better with dipping, and I take the inner cart out for that. But as someone mentioned, I'm wondering if it's the batts I got in my first order, since I had one melt on me! I will look for the newer batts as well. I really do love this model, just a matter of dialing it in I suppose. Mind you I don't mind a slightly harder drag, bc it's similar to how I smoke. My sister likes it too for the same reason.
Do want to try Puresmoker's Prodigy for the 401, when it comes out...or at least a passthrough.
Just wanted to give a little shout out for myfreedomsmokes...the owner there has let me put in an order on backordered batteries/atomizers for the 401 (I'd email him to confirm before you do so yourself) and I ordered juice and an additional charger which he shipped out now since they're available. He forgot to include one of the juices I ordered, and shipped it out immediately the day I e-mailed him about it.
Also, their menthol is the best I've tasted thus far. Very minty, and very clean even when I tried dripping. I just had their pineapple and mandarin flavors as well, and I'm very impressed with them...if you like fruity juice, I'd recommend the pineapple especially...the mandarin's flavor was a bit weak but very tasty...might try blending later
Also, their menthol is the best I've tasted thus far. Very minty, and very clean even when I tried dripping. I just had their pineapple and mandarin flavors as well, and I'm very impressed with them...if you like fruity juice, I'd recommend the pineapple especially...the mandarin's flavor was a bit weak but very tasty...might try blending later
Just read the entire thread, and i'm quite set on the 401 as my first e-cig.. i just can't make up my mind about the color. I like the black ones, but i'm afraid that it will look weird smoking them in public places(bars, pubs). Also i read that the white ones doesn't looks as good as the black ones. Any thoughts on that?
P.S.: Also, every time i'm reading the ECF forum i feel the need to smoke, and since i don't have any e-cig, im puffing analogs)
P.S.: Also, every time i'm reading the ECF forum i feel the need to smoke, and since i don't have any e-cig, im puffing analogs
)
Just read the entire thread, and i'm quite set on the 401 as my first e-cig.. i just can't make up my mind about the color. I like the black ones, but i'm afraid that it will look weird smoking them in public places(bars, pubs). Also i read that the white ones doesn't looks as good as the black ones. Any thoughts on that?
P.S.: Also, every time i'm reading the ECF forum i feel the need to smoke, and since i don't have any e-cig, im puffing analogs
I like the black ones and a lot of people tell me it looks like I am smoking a clove ciggie. They have the orange led so look pretty good.. But I just ordered some black ones with blue LED from RuyanDirect... sooo... who knows?? lol..
AEC have ones that look like a regular ciggie (white bat and brown carts.. along with other color options... but they do cost a few bucks more for parts and kits. But if you want a more realistic color I would suggest there. They also have a flat shipping fee of $15.. But if you are not worried about realistic looks too much.. I would suggest Ruyan if you are just looking to start off with a kit and a few spare bats and atomizers and maybe a 30ml bottle of liquid or 2. I just ordered 2 extra batteries, two cordless usb chargers and two US plug adapters and my EMS shipping fee came to $12. They were out of juice (also GREAT prices).. My shipping with the juice would have come to $15-$16. With $2 less here and $1 less there through Ruyan than AEC... so long as you are not a supplier and making massive orders... the final cost with shipping is lower through Ruyan.
But again... if you want one that looks like a white and brown ciggie... Go through AEC as I have not found that option elsewhere.... and I have been looking at ALL the China distributors I can find and comparing since a friend of mine would prefer his look like a cigarette... So I will go to AEC for for his care package of a kit and extra parts.
Last edited:
As far as batteries go i have (battery color/led color) stainless/blue, white/orange, brown(woodgrain)/green, black blue, and black/orange. So far i think that the brown/green looks the "classiest", but my problem with this model is the fact that i cant see the led during the day. I like to use the white/orange when i in my "don't want to explain vaping" mood, but other than those rare occasions, will most likely use the stainless or black with blue led.
I feel it really depends on where you're going to be vaping. If you're in an area where you can't smoke, than the blue led will help dissuade people from thinking you're actually smoking. On the other hand if you're in a designated smoking area, and don't want to be bombarded with questions, then white orange might be a better choice.
In the end if you end up completely switching, you'll probably end up with more batteries, so i wouldn't worry too much about you're initial order.
I feel it really depends on where you're going to be vaping. If you're in an area where you can't smoke, than the blue led will help dissuade people from thinking you're actually smoking. On the other hand if you're in a designated smoking area, and don't want to be bombarded with questions, then white orange might be a better choice.
In the end if you end up completely switching, you'll probably end up with more batteries, so i wouldn't worry too much about you're initial order.
you are probably right.. if it will work for me probably i would end up with a lot of batteries.
I'm thinking of buying for start a kit, 2 spare atomizers, one spare battery and some blank carts, the juice i will buy locally - i hope this parts will last 2-3 months?
- Status
Similar threads
