Mad As Hell!!!!

[deeanne59]

Ladies...I am at the end of my rope. As of yesterday, I had to break a 3 month analog free month- and go back to analogs part time. I have 4 packs of ciggies left, and 60ml of "slumgullion" juice that I salvaged out of all my various carts to vape with. My income and budget will not allow me to buy atomizers and juice "in bulk" for a possible ban, so I only have what is left.

I get paid tomorrow, and I have enough right now to buy a few bottles of samples from Drew, and maybe enough atomizers to last through a ban...but not enough for both atties and juice.

I am also disappointed and frustrated because I have written and e-mailed:

President Obama
My Senators
My Congressmen
My AG
My Governor
The FDA
Glenn Beck
John Stossel

Plus I have left comments on various e-cig news articles and such.....WITH NO RESULTS!!!!

I guess I started vaping a little too late- many have been stockpiling for 9 months, and I don't have that luxury. I was planning on getting a little juice and a few atties at a time, as I needed them, but then this Tobacco Law and FDA thing came along, and my panic set in. I don't know what else to do. I HAVE to have my nic...I have been trying to cut down to 0 nic, but I have been unsuccessful so far.

I am on a limited budget, and it would take around $1000.00 or more to buy a stockpile to last me a while....so what can I do? I don't want to keep on with these analogs- and it makes me angry that I have even had to resort to them in the first place!

- end of rant and woes-

 

[souporvapor]

Hi Deeanne,
Mist-stix.com sells 30 ml for $9 (they have a coupon code you'll have to find)
depending on what e-cig you use you can find attys for as little as $6
Find a way to invest in a 'mod' - check the classifieds - so you can use rechargeable batteries instead of expensive e-cig bats.

Rather than look way ahead into the future - do what you can, as you can to stockpile.
Maybe even checking into DYI juice (here on the forums for lots of info) so you can cut expensive commercial juice with PG/VG which is much cheaper.

The key is to try not to panic and take it a day at a time.. That's all we have anyway.

And by the way - all of the above is said knowing how challenging a tight budget can be.

Blssssngs,
Kathy

30 years of smoking ....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!
(which I bought with a credit card)

 

[deeanne59]

Thanks Souporvapor...I have a mod, a Prodigy. I have been trying DIY, but I have run out of my plain nic liquid. I guess I can just vape my remaining leftovers while I order in small amounts...and then take it as it comes. I can get say, a 5 atty pack from TW or somewhere, and some juice to last for a little while. I guess I panicked and was looking at buying 25-30 atties and 3000ml of liquid.....all at one time!

My budget will allow me to do a little, just not a MASSIVE buying spree.

 

[Mary Kay]

Dee..you are on a tear this week! LOL
What kind of plain juice do you vape? If it's P.G. you can get a gallon at the tractor supply store for about $19.00 to $25 00. or you can get 250ml for $6.00 to 500ml for $10.50.

A gallon is 128 ounces.
500ml is 16.912 ounces.
V.G. is found at several places..as is glycerin.
Atty's $34.50 for 5, 901,801 or 510.

For juice, there are several good sales going right now. I would look at electronic ash..first for close outs. Mist second..maybe more choices!

Whatever you do, do it small and do it in a methodical way. Atty's are first, 5 or 10 this time. Then liquid, 2 or 3 30ml or 30mls of samples at a time. Then move on to plain liquids and Nic. Now begin again atty's, liquid, plain & nic. You can buy nic separate from your P.G. or V.G. just add to your plain in amounts needed.

Once a month..just be relentless about it. You may want to alternate a supply run of cart filler, spare carts or empty bottles.
Keep a cool head, Rome wasn't built in a day..nor will the FDA move in a day..the machine that must be in place is much to big and bulky.

Remember the only thing we are dependant on is atty's! If Carlos gets his atty's on the market..we won't even be dependant on those!
Have you seen the ways to extract nic from tobacco and snuss?
Tropical Bob has even found a way to use mini snuss soaked in P.G. or V.G. and put directly in a cart! (still in it's tiny bag) He vapes a tobacco product!

Calm and cool does it girlfriend!

 

[deeanne59]

Hi There MaryKay!

Does seem I'm kinda on a tear, doesn't it . I already have a lot of PG and VG, plus vodka and flavorings. What I ran out of is the plain nic juice. Also, I am using my original 510 atties that I got with my starter kits almost 3 months ago, so they are becoming "old timers".

I already have a large bag of poly from Wal-Mart, 2 boxes of Lipton Pyramid tea bags, 4 boxes of Fluval, 100-901 whistle tipped carts,and 30-regular 510 carts.

After I answered Souprovapors' post, I just went ahead and ordered a 5pk of atties from TW, and 4-30ml bottles of flavored juice from Mist-Stix.

After I get paid tomorrow, I might have a little extra to get some unflavored nic juice, and maybe a few more atties. I was afraid that the FDA would move AMAZINGLY fast if the judge decides in their favor.

I guess I am what everybody would call a "worry-wort".

 

[beckah54]

Dee,
I didn't see what nic level you're doing right now but it helps me to buy the highest mg available and cut it in half with PG or VG or both. Maybe you are already doing that, but it sure helps me stretch the money. It's like getting 60 ml for the 30 ml price. Other than what you're doing already, I don't know what else you can do except, as MK said, just buy a little each payday and hope the Judge takes a while to rule.
I certainly know what you mean about the money being tight. You can only make it stretch so far and that's it.
Good luck to you. Hope everything works out okay.

 

[deeanne59]

Thanks Beckah54. I am using 24mg right now on my Prodigy...may cut down to 18mg, I don't know. I am thinking about cutting nic juice...buying 36mg or 48mg and cutting it down...that might help stretch it out through this court and ban thing.

Right now, my budget is such that sometimes I cut down on groceries a little to get vaping supplies (sounds terrible, I know). I am trying to do whatever I can to get off AND STAY OFF of analogs! I hated going back on them part time after being off of them for 3 months!!!!!

 

[Mary Kay]

See? You are doing good! I am trying to remember where I saw 48 nic besides Drew's. Stupid file clerk! I can see the site..but not the name!

 

[deeanne59]

I don't know off hand, I know Drew has 48mg. and 60mg. Eastmall has 36mg. I think Myfreedomsmokes has 48mg., but I'm not sure. I will find a good supply, and like I posted previously, I will try to cut down to 18mg.- which might help me stretch it out a little farther, plus I am going to keep getting SOME flavored juice to keep on hand to vape and store away.

 

[rocketvapor]

I saw today the ecigsmokestore has 48 mg juice, but she can't use PayPal anymore and is only doing orders through money order. What a hassle.

I've never ordered from her myself, but was window shopping there today looking for a good supplier of VG juice - already made, not DIY.

Anyway, it's one source, at least, if you're not in a hurry.

To clarify - she does have DIY stuff, I just wan't shopping for that.

 

[souporvapor]

wow
you have money to buy groceries?
'Spose I could put them on the credit card that bought the vaping stufff

just seems wrong.
PS - you can't get nic juice at the food bank and self-employment doesn't provide unemployment benefits when the 'boss' doesn't have the money to pay you.

Blsssngs,
Kathy
(happily vaping my imitation chocolate mint cookies for desert)

 

[Wench]

Here's what I've been doing to stock up slowly without out killing the bank anymore than I did..

2-3 atty's a paycheck ( every 2 weeks) = $16-$24 shipped at RMV (Rocky Mountain Vapor)( $8 for 510's, $7 if you go with 901's or 801's)

About every 3rd check I get juice instead. (50ml for $22) Again check RMV, mist-sticks

I get the flue cured at 18mg as it's a strong flavor and cut it down with VG to 11mg
This one is so strong I can cut it by a third ( not by half though, loses too much flavor) It gives me my hard to find 11mg and stretches my juice..
50ml becomes 75ml and I still have the flavor I like.
Even if you add 1-2 ml to a 30ml bottle you won't lose hardley any flavor, will stretch it out and it will add up

 

[deeanne59]

Thanks Wench...I will try that, ANYTHING to start getting juice and atties built up. I have gone back to straight vaping tonight....want to get back off these analogs, even if it is only one every once in a while.

 

[Kimerpuff]

Hey Deeanne59,

can you send me a pm if you have a moment please?

 

[deeanne59]

PM sent Kimerpuff

 

[Moonflame]

Health Cabin has packs of attys. I got a pack of 10 510 attys for $62.50 and they had packs of 20 for $135 shipped. I got the more expensive set because they were multi colored and it only worked out to be a little more. I got my unflavored from MyFreedomSmokes 250 ml of 48 mg for $116 shipped. That gives me enough attys and juice to last at least a year. It's a lot up front, but it's nice to know I'm covered for a good long while.

 

[Wench]

That reminds me...bulk.
If you can swing it ( I haven't had the cash yet )
Dietsmokes and Puresmoker have atty's in bulk pricing.
I forget the exact numbers except what I was looking at specifically lol
When you add to cart you see the discount, 25 end up being $5 shipped so 25=$125 shipped.
They have threads up in their forums if you want to see specifics.

 

[souporvapor]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/36414-4-99-red-801-atomizers.html

found this - red 801 attys - 4.99
coupon for 5% off - 5off
for anyone looking to 'invest'

30 years of smoking...
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!

 

[Crankyfuzz]

Does paypal still allow it to be used to buy tobacco products? Such as rolling machines, tobacco from online, parts for the machines etc?