I had him send me a picture of the batteries he was sending with it looks red
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Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face
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Those look like these:
26650 Efest 3500mAh IMR26650 High Discharge Flat Top
Only 15 amps continuous discharge rate according to Illumn, a very reputable battery distributor. Looks like you got swindled. Let me guess: Ebay or Amazon?
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No the mod builderThose look like these:
26650 Efest 3500mAh IMR26650 High Discharge Flat Top
Only 15 amps continuous discharge rate according to Illumn, a very reputable battery distributor. Looks like you got swindled. Let me guess: Ebay or Amazon?
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Doesn't matter. He either lied about the specifications, or doesn't know any better. And you got ripped off. Next time, do your research before you buy batteries.
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What you are suggesting will do nothing to stop people from screwing up. What mode makers really need to do is build devices that have solid idiot proof built in protection. Forget about mechs, as they are always going to be far more risky then a well designed regulated.
The problem with mechs is that they take special knowledge and constant vigilance to use with any type of safety, and even then mechs can cause issues. There are lots of ways things can go wrong, By any reasonable standard they cannot be considered a common consumer good, yet they are being sold as just another consumer good. Mechs blowing up in someones face is entirely predictable and will continue to happen on a regular bases.
Nothing can be made to be idiot proof. There are ways to make things safer though.
Take for instance, mechanical mods. Most of today's tube mechs use a bottom fire switch, mainly because they are cheaper and easier to produce. Unless a bottom firing bottom switch has a lock function, it has the potential to autofire when set on end. If you don't notice it, that will over-discharge the battery and cause the battery to vent in thermal runaway. Even if it does have a lock function, the user must set it each time the mod is set down, and how many people actually do that?
I use a Silver Bullet mech from AltSmoke. It uses a side fire button --- more natural to use than a bottom fire button in my opinion. The side fire button is also recessed, making it unlikely to accidentally fire the button if in a pocket or purse. The button is also designed to vent gas in case the battery vents. Batteries are designed to vent from the top, so with the SB's button being located near the top of the battery, it is a safer design. It also uses a "hot spring", designed to melt if the battery becomes too hot and breaking the electrical connection to the atomizer, hopefully preventing thermal runaway.
Overall, not idiot proof, but a safer design for a mechanical mod.
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Glad to see that got straightened out BEFORE you spent your money. Some things seem pretty cool while you're doing them, and don't look foolish until AFTER things go wrong.
Cash spend whatever what's 20$ throw them out move on and buy something saferGlad to see that got straightened out BEFORE you spent your money. Some things seem pretty cool while you're doing them, and don't look foolish until AFTER things go wrong.
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I agree when it comes to safety and training issues the manufacturers should
be doing more. Do the top brand manufacturers send battery safety info with
their mods? Does any battery manufacturer state in writing or on their website
it's safe to use their products in the manner they are used in sub ohming?
Unless a mod maker and battery manufacturer specifically state their products
are made to operate safely at the currents used they both will try to distance
themselves from the safety issue.
I have never owned a mod so I don't know who if any of the mod makers supplies
safety info. My best guess is they certainly imply their are made to take the heat.
As such sooner or later some mod maker may have a serious liability issue to deal
with. The battery makers to the best of my knowledge have never stated their
batteries were made to run safely using maximum current drain as a normal
operating condition.
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Mike
be doing more. Do the top brand manufacturers send battery safety info with
their mods? Does any battery manufacturer state in writing or on their website
it's safe to use their products in the manner they are used in sub ohming?
Unless a mod maker and battery manufacturer specifically state their products
are made to operate safely at the currents used they both will try to distance
themselves from the safety issue.
I have never owned a mod so I don't know who if any of the mod makers supplies
safety info. My best guess is they certainly imply their are made to take the heat.
As such sooner or later some mod maker may have a serious liability issue to deal
with. The battery makers to the best of my knowledge have never stated their
batteries were made to run safely using maximum current drain as a normal
operating condition.
Regards
Mike
How's thisThose look like these:
26650 Efest 3500mAh IMR26650 High Discharge Flat Top
Only 15 amps continuous discharge rate according to Illumn, a very reputable battery distributor. Looks like you got swindled. Let me guess: Ebay or Amazon?
26650 Efest Purple 4200mAh IMR26650 High Discharge Flat Top - Batteries - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers
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No, you aren't "getting it" yet. There are far better batteries to buy than Efest. I guarantee that battery doesn't have 40 amp continuous just based on their other purple batteries, but who knows for sure? Efest doesn't make their own cells, but re-wraps cells from other manufacturers. Who knows what's under the 26650 wrapper? I wouldn't trust them myself.
Look at the reputable 26650 IMR batteries in my blog:
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Panasonic CGR26650A 26650 mah 50 amp CDR (if you can find them)
Orbtronics 26650 5200mah 20 amp CDR IMR
Menke 26650 3500 mah 20 amp CDR IMR
Panasonic CGR26650A 26650 mah 50 amp CDR (if you can find them)
Orbtronics 26650 5200mah 20 amp CDR IMR
Menke 26650 3500 mah 20 amp CDR IMR
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So basically what you are saying is that the great majority of mechs being sold have inherently unsafe design flaws (besides mechs being inherently more risky then a well designed regulated, as in Provape and the latter evolv). Isn't that wonderful. And yet vape shops and online venders are pushing this stuff, and pushing it on to newbies, largely because of more profit for them. So now we sit around and wonder why these things are blowing up. Just take a look at the newbie section of ECF and it is easy to see there is way to much talk about the wonders of mechs.
I said on another forum (the CASSA Facebook page) that mechs should be voluntarily taken off the market by vape shops and online venders. They are not a common consumer good and should not be sold as one. But of course the profit is just to high so it is not going to happen. As an active THR advocate it is very difficult to take about harm reduction when devices are blowing up in peoples faces.
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I would not let my dog touch Efest with a stick.
These are good IMO:
MNKE 26650
Max discharge rate: 20A
Max Pulse discharge: 60A or 70A?
Edit: and of course reading Bad's blog is a must (thx again Bad!)
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As much as I hate to say it, unless the vaping industry decides to regulate itself soon, the FDA will impose their own regulations and many of us will not like that. Too many in the vaping industry are only interested in their profit margin, not so much the safety of their customers. As usual, the bad guys will ruin it for the rest of us.
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