Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face

[Robert Cromwell]

How long shod you use the same set of batteries till thy don't hold a charge our 2-3 mos?


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Depends on the batteries and how hard you use them. I have been using 650 ma evod batteries for 9 months with no noticeable decrease in capacity.
On 18650's if you use them at lower wattages usually about 300 charge/discharge cycles is the norm. if you use them hard you can probably half that.
If you nocice ANY leakage or swelling ie they are hard to insert in the mod. Stop using them immediately.
The wrapper must also be kept intact if torn rewrap or discard.
There are vids on youtube about rewrapping them.

 

[Robino1]

How long shod you use the same set of batteries till thy don't hold a charge our 2-3 mos?


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I am getting ready to send a couple of IMR batteries to the recycling bin. They are now a few years old. They do not hold a charge longer than a couple of hours. These are 18650 batteries. I do believe I purchased them in early 2013.

Granted they are part of a group of 6 batteries that were purchased around the same time frame so they were not used constantly this whole time.

But I do know they are ready to go to the recycling place in the sky.

 

[Outcast]

Depends on the batteries and how hard you use them. I have been using 650 ma evod batteries for 9 months with no noticeable decrease in capacity.
On 18650's if you use them at lower wattages usually about 300 charge/discharge cycles is the norm. if you use them hard you can probably half that.

I will be using 26650 50 amp dual parallel I build around .1-.2 so at .1 that shod be 175 watts at 4.2 volts and 42 amps


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[Robert Cromwell]

I will be using 26650 50 amp dual parallel I build around .1-.2 so at .1 that shod be 175 watts at 4.2 volts and 42 amps


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I would think that qualifies as moderately hard use. Be safe.
Also be sure and keep your battery contacts clean and good fitting so that one battery does not carry all the amps if the other one is not making good contact. One indication this is happening is if when recharging one battery charges up quite a bit quicker than the other one.
Also keep them paired.

 

[Outcast]

I would think that qualifies as moderately hard use. Be safe.

Seeing do parallel share the load I only count the 2nd battery at 50% though so that shod put me well in the safe zone seeing that 75amp load is max


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[AXIOM_1]

Depends on the batteries and how hard you use them. I have been using 650 ma evod batteries for 9 months with no noticeable decrease in capacity.
On 18650's if you use them at lower wattages usually about 300 charge/discharge cycles is the norm. if you use them hard you can probably half that.
If you nocice ANY leakage or swelling ie they are hard to insert in the mod. Stop using them immediately.
The wrapper must also be kept intact if torn rewrap or discard.
There are vids on youtube about rewrapping them.

yeah, my 18650's are already starting to show signs of aging... Of course I have pushed them hard and so I am definitely not going to get 300 cycles out of them... Oh well, yesterday I ordered some Sony VTC4's and I will give them a whirl. I have been using the Samsung 25r's ...

 

[Outcast]

None of this is my personal experience only what I've been reading and watching and safety videos please let me know if I do not have the proper grasp on this


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[sonicbomb]

Some perspective:

"Worldwide, tobacco use causes nearly 6 million deaths per year, and current trends show that tobacco use will cause more than 8 million deaths annually by 2030."

"For every person who dies because of smoking, at least 30 people live with a serious smoking-related illness."

CDC - Fact Sheet - Fast Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use


Number of e-cig related deaths (that I am aware of) is none.

 

[Outcast]

Also this tickler mod he put in a built-in charger should I get more than just the two batteries or should I get a separate charge it all together


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[tj99959]

I will be using 26650 50 amp dual parallel I build around .1-.2 so at .1 that shod be 175 watts at 4.2 volts and 42 amps


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[crxess]

Some perspective:

"Worldwide, tobacco use causes nearly 6 million deaths per year, and current trends show that tobacco use will cause more than 8 million deaths annually by 2030."

"For every person who dies because of smoking, at least 30 people live with a serious smoking-related illness."

CDC - Fact Sheet - Fast Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use


Number of e-cig related deaths (that I am aware of) is none.

You do realize, they are just letting the public know Population control is going according to plans, right?

Otherwise Tobacco would be Banned just like
35 FDA-Approved Prescription Drugs Later Pulled from the Market - Prescription Drug Ads - ProCon.org

 

[roxynoodle]

Yep.

That's the one I was thinking about.

Though I swear I've seen the mod and battery pic from this thread somewhere.

Dunno if it was a hoax.

Looks like roxy remembers it too?

Tapatyped

Yes, and I thought he was who you were thinking of? Different guy and mod, but both young and kind of similar looking.

Yes, my wife saw this last night and had to mention it. I tried to explain to her what had likely happened but how do you explain it without having to explain how a vaporizer is constructed, explain the different types of vaporizers, the different types of batteries and all about Ohm's Law? Basically she told me that if it ever happened to me then I was on my own. One more reason she'll probably never give up cigarettes in favor of vaping.

And that's sad. People die every day in car accidents, but most of us still drive. There are a lot more car accidents than battery accidents, but they aren't given sensationalist journalism. People seem to have a hard time looking at things rationally when the media overhypes the danger.

 

[Robino1]

the media overhypes the danger.

Which makes me wonder..... We all know that the media is famous for only using sound bites to sensationalize stories. I can't help thinking that the guy may have more to say but the news outlet decides only to use the sound bite that makes the story more shocking....

Just a thought. I have seen the full piece on YouTube. At one point the guy says something about wanting people to be careful. I have a feeling he had more to say....that didn't get aired.

 

[roxynoodle]

Why can't you use an atlantis on a hybrid device? I'm confused and needless to say I'll never buy a hybrid top lol. But I would expect the person to do some research first or god forbid a shop sold it to him and didn't tell him about the safety issues. This is tragic tho. And not complete ignorance. It was an accident

I didn't see anyone answer your question so I will.

The 510 pin of the Atlantis can be easily pushed up by the battery when pushing on the switch. This allows the battery to touch the top of the mech, which creates an instant hard short.

I'm starting to think maybe the Atlantis shouldn't be used on any mech though. Its possible the S Key's 510 was adjusted too tightly and pushed it up in this incident as well. The battery still shouldn't have been able to touch the topcap, but maybe he ignored lessor signs like the button warming up. Can only speculate here on the cause. I still think either the battery wasn't up to the task or had a damaged wrapper.

 

[roxynoodle]

Which makes me wonder..... We all know that the media is famous for only using sound bites to sensationalize stories. I can't help thinking that the guy may have more to say but the news outlet decides only to use the sound bite that makes the story more shocking....

Just a thought. I have seen the full piece on YouTube. At one point the guy says something about wanting people to be careful. I have a feeling he had more to say....that didn't get aired.

We all know that happens all the time. Creative editing.

 

[WattWick]

regulated mods = safer

Well-made regulated mods that went through some kind of quality control, used with an adequate battery = safer.

Having faith in anything based on product category alone - not necessarily safe.

(Next part is not a lecture... or intended to be. Just adding a little perspective.)

Then again - given enough time, a certain number of people will manage to i.e,

- trip and fall
- impale themselves on a common wooden stick
- crack their head on a stationary rock
- cut themselves on a steak knife
- swallow a toothbrush
- catapult a melon into their own face


While any accident is theoretically avoidable, they do happen in practice. And that is what this is. An accident. Avoidable? Of course. Inevitable either way? Indeed. It's not vaping, it's life. Some will get hurt harder than others. All will die.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Well-made regulated mods that went through some kind of quality control, used with an adequate battery = safer.

Having faith in anything based on product category alone - not necessarily safe.

(Next part is not a lecture... or intended to be. Just adding a little perspective.)

Then again - given enough time, a certain number of people will manage to i.e,

- trip and fall
- impale themselves on a common wooden stick
- crack their head on a stationary rock
- cut themselves on a steak knife
- swallow a toothbrush
- catapult a melon into their own face


While any accident is theoretically avoidable, they do happen in practice. And that is what this is. An accident. Avoidable? Of course. Inevitable either way? Indeed. It's not vaping, it's life. Some will get hurt harder than others. All will die.

yeah if you read my earlier posts above I also stated that regulated mods are not safe, just tend to be safer.

 

[WattWick]

yeah if you read my earlier posts above I also stated that regulated mods are not safe, just tend to be safer.

Indeed. If you even the slightest offense, it's my bad. Just one of those thing (I think) we agree on - that I for some reason felt like elaborating on. Which some times comes out a bit patronising despite intent.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Then again - given enough time, a certain number of people will manage to i.e,

- trip and fall
- impale themselves on a common wooden stick
- crack their head on a stationary rock
- cut themselves on a steak knife
- swallow a toothbrush
- catapult a melon into their own face

While any accident is theoretically avoidable, they do happen in practice. And that is what this is. An accident. Avoidable? Of course. Inevitable either way? Indeed. It's not vaping, it's life. Some will get hurt harder than others. All will die.

LOL... Pics or it didn't happen!
All Will Die. Truer words...

Also, something to think about. In the manufacturing process there is no such thing as perfection. It is statistically damn near impossible that a defective device will not somehow get beyond QC and end up on the market. I'm pretty sure that no matter HOW diligent we all are, eventually an occurrence like the OP is going to happen and we will see it on the news. The type of mod used, and the lack of wrapper in the pic look like it COULD have been user error, but there is still a possibility that things just went wrong.

Edit: hahaha... nevermind. I found the girl getting the watermelon in her face!

 

[YoursTruli]

Some perspective:

"Worldwide, tobacco use causes nearly 6 million deaths per year, and current trends show that tobacco use will cause more than 8 million deaths annually by 2030."

"For every person who dies because of smoking, at least 30 people live with a serious smoking-related illness."

CDC - Fact Sheet - Fast Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use


Number of e-cig related deaths (that I am aware of) is none.

I would really hate to think someone would have to die during one of these ecig accidents for it not to be so easily dismissed by a few sentences in a forum and I am unaware of anyone that has had a cigarette blow up in their hand, face or mouth causing severe injury so I am not sure where the comparison come into play here....
Not sure about you but I do not know of anyone that would like to suffer burns, broken teeth, a neck fracture, burn to their eyes or a hole in the roof of their mouth that may or may not ever heal properly by using an ecig like this poor guy has.