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Chi w/ trident clone vs REOgrand w/ RM2

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So I got home and found a Brass/Stainless Trident I ordered from slowtech over a month ago to match up w/ my badly needing a polish because I haven't used her since getting my first REO Brass Chi.

I quickly did a dual micro .4Ω 26 gauge kanthal setup on both the RM2 and Trident.
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Both the REO and Chi are using a Sony 30amp 18650

The RM2 has a single 1/16th air hole
The trident is running w/ both air holes open.

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Test Fires

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Corrected issue w/ my setup on REO re-fired and wow!
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Observations/considerations


The chi is fully noalox'd all thead's including button setup.
The REO is running fully stock w/ a touch of noalox on the firing pin.

The Chi hits immediate w/ minimal voltage drop.
The REO has a much longer heat up time w/ voltage drop evident.
^corrected issue w/ REO new test fire to show, Voltage drop minimal vape production there.

As observed in above photos the Trident puts off more thick vapor on initial post cotton soak test fire immediate and even burnt my hand a bit w/ blisteringly hot juice shooting from it. The shot was taken immediate b/c the juice hurt.

The REO took some time to ramp up. @ .4Ω's I knew i'd be pushing it but knew I had extra springs if I dropped the spring. I wanted a control group both running .4Ω's. I waited about 4 seconds then took the test fire shot on the REO.
REO issue was my issue corrected and it's vaping stronger than Chi w/ Trident. Yes it is:)

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Vapor quality/taste/what really matters


They are both EXCELLENT. It's important to understand the REO is not designed to just be a ungoverned non street legal mod such as the Chi. In fact the Chi required me to make a small O ring b/c of certain batteries auto firing just from screwing it together b/c of the negative side making contact. The Chi has no safety mechanism stock. You adjust a telescopic firing pin till the battery doesn't shake in the tube and go.

The Chi's firing button has too short of a throw. It works well but almost non existent throw. Just unscrew the lock ring and squeeze your pinky on the bottom button and it goes.

The REO is built with a good amount of though in mind. You squonk and get reliable predictable vapes all day. The squonking makes it the perfect every day on the go analog replacement w/ excellent quality.

As far as taste goes from them.

The Chi/Trident w/ both holes open produces good vapor. The RM2 produces a good amount which appears more dense. After correcting issues it vapes and produces more dense vapor w/ more flavor than Trident/Chi.[/b[

As far as taste goes. They both have good taste. I'd have to edge towards the RM2 in terms of actual taste quality.
The smaller air chamber of the RM2 along w/ the single 1/16th air hole cause this in my opinion.

Response time from firing goes to the Chi/Trident.

Mod'ing the REO to reduce voltage drop would remove the delay but at the expense of safety. I'm happy w/ it where its at as a good solid all day vape.

Overall Winner for practicality ease of use all day everyday use:REO w/ RM2
Winner of vape producing contests voltage drop powerhouse vaping: Chi w/ Trident After correcting issues REO is on par if not better.

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Conclusions


If I'm going to a vape meet and feel like screwing around blowing crazy clouds I'd use the Chi/Trident. If I felt like blinging out the freshly polished chi w/ the gold/SS trident looks very sharp. If I'm looking for immediate kill you borderline crazy vapor production the trident/chi win.

Other than that the REO is the best overall in terms of vapor quality, taste, ease of use, and taste are with the REO.
Anyone who says otherwise simply has different taste buds than me. If the Chi/Trident were better I'd say. I'd use my REO anyways because at the basic level of it the Chi/Trident don't solve my needs of being an effective bottom feeder with a very pocket friendly form factor.

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Nice write up vapebro :)

But...

I might have to go ahead and build you a coil and wick brother :)

The last time I got that little bit of vapor out of one of my REOs was when I was using cartos. :)

Here's a pic of typical vapor production even with an 18480
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Here's the vid - the firing is near the end. :)
http://youtu.be/n7-OrmmjCCA

Great job hoss :)
 

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This morning I noticed the noalox on the tip of the REO had been wiped off from me cleaning it and forgetting to reapply it. This would definitely explain the long lag I was getting on initial fire up last night. There is still voltage drop just not as bad.

I put more on and the vapor production is pretty much dead even. I'll update it later tonight w/ an accurate pic of the REO's vapor production. Hitting them side by side they are pretty much dead even. Different sized air chambers and air intake holes effects flavor for sure.

Once I get the pdib mod done I have no doubt the things gonna dominate over the Chi/trident.
 

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Corrected issues, after testing and checking for shorts on a meter and test firing it on another mod I temporarily removed the spring and put in a brass/silverplated screw I sanded down to fit it right temporarily to test the amount of voltage drop difference vs spring.

Yeah, night and day. Put spring back in for now but pdib's fuse mod coming soon along w/ firing arm brass/rolling modification.

This little thing hit so hard I'd have to go up to a 5/64th hole in the cap to vape it like this normally.
 
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