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Manual 5/6 Volt PV - Why Are They Better?

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You all know that I think the manual switch, higher volt devices provide the closes feel and consistency to the real thing and thus are more effective in helping the smoker transition to vaping and stay clear of analogs. If you have an analog from your favorite brand, whether it is in New York or Dallas, it is going to be the same each time. I think it helps when vaping is closer to that consistency and feel in the throat each time you inhale. I find from all the devices I have tried that only the higher volt manual devices get close to that goal. I know quite a few people locally who have gone back to smoking after using a mall device and they all told me the same thing: way too inconsistent and little feel in the throat that you are smoking.

However, if a person smoked a 1/2 a pack or less a day, then smoking was more of a distraction than an addiction. For that person, any PV would work as a distraction and performance is not important.
 

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You all know that I think the manual switch, higher volt devices provide the closes feel and consistency to the real thing and thus are more effective in helping the smoker transition to vaping and stay clear of analogs. If you have an analog from your favorite brand, whether it is in New York or Dallas, it is going to be the same each time. I think it helps when vaping is closer to that consistency and feel in the throat each time you inhale. I find from all the devices I have tried that only the higher volt manual devices get close to that goal. I know quite a few people locally who have gone back to smoking after using a mall device and they all told me the same thing: way too inconsistent and little feel in the throat that you are smoking.

However, if a person smoked a 1/2 a pack or less a day, then smoking was more of a distraction than an addiction. For that person, any PV would work as a distraction and performance is not important.
WV.....I was a "close to a pack a day" smoker....but never looked at it as a distraction.I was(and still am)a nicotine addict.The first thing I would do in the morning as my feet hit the ground was light up! Now I reach for my PV on the nightstand instead.We could go into the difference in the way I feel since quitting analogs and how I feel since I started vaping,but I think all of us here know by now how vaping has improved our health from months of experience.
The topic of higher voltage PV devices in comparrison to the real thing is a subject I have just became familiar with.Since purchasing my prodigy,I have come to see the light in this regard.Before the prodigy the closest thing for me was the 510 in means of a throat-hit sensation comparable to an analog.Since I started using the 5volt Prodigy I have actually cut my nicotine strength(between 18 and 24mg from 36mg).I do, (occasionally now),use the 36mg,but for brief periods only.What I have found is that the 18-24mg give me the same throat hit(on the Prodigy)as my 36mg gives me with the 510!!

To sum things up....The new E-Cig user is more likely(IMO)to stick with E-Cigs with a higher voltage device that provides them with what they are losing(when switching from analogs) in terms of nicotine,throat hit....and hopefully(in the future) a closer look-alike to the real thing(face it the Prodigy does not look like an analog..LOL),Than a device which may or may not give the throat hit due to lack of power.I have seen several folks who I work with throw in the towel and go back to analogs(for different reasons...so they say)Too bad they couldnt have had an oppertunity to try a Higher voltage product!! Thanks for the thread WV.....very worthwhile!!:)The Wiz!
 

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WV.....I was a "close to a pack a day" smoker....but never looked at it as a distraction.I was(and still am)a nicotine addict.The first thing I would do in the morning as my feet hit the ground was light up! Now I reach for my PV on the nightstand instead.We could go into the difference in the way I feel since quitting analogs and how I feel since I started vaping,but I think all of us here know by now how vaping has improved our health from months of experience.
The topic of higher voltage PV devices in comparrison to the real thing is a subject I have just became familiar with.Since purchasing my prodigy,I have come to see the light in this regard.Before the prodigy the closest thing for me was the 510 in means of a throat-hit sensation comparable to an analog.Since I started using the 5volt Prodigy I have actually cut my nicotine strength(between 18 and 24mg from 36mg).I do, (occasionally now),use the 36mg,but for brief periods only.What I have found is that the 18-24mg give me the same throat hit(on the Prodigy)as my 36mg gives me with the 510!!

To sum things up....The new E-Cig user is more likely(IMO)to stick with E-Cigs with a higher voltage device that provides them with what they are losing(when switching from analogs) in terms of nicotine,throat hit....and hopefully(in the future) a closer look-alike to the real thing(face it the Prodigy does not look like an analog..LOL),Than a device which may or may not give the throat hit due to lack of power.I have seen several folks who I work with throw in the towel and go back to analogs(for different reasons...so they say)Too bad they couldnt have had an oppertunity to try a Higher voltage product!! Thanks for the thread WV.....very worthwhile!!:)The Wiz!

I totally agree with you, Wiz. I have seen other members state that since they started using a high volt device like the Prodigy, they were able to reduce the strength of their juice. And I've never read once that someone who uses a high volt device has gone back to analogs like those who have given up using a Smoke Everywhere for example.

As far as the apperance of the Prodigy or any of the high volt PV's, I'm glad they don't lool like analogs. I'm not a smoker anymore and I don't want to be confused with smoking, either. In fact, IMO, the more this looks like smoking the more resistence there will be from non-smokers and groups like ASH. I plan to try some of the "stealth" liquid that is invisible.
If I close my eyes and vape, the end result is still the same.:)
 

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I totally agree with you, Wiz. I have seen other members state that since they started using a high volt device like the Prodigy, they were able to reduce the strength of their juice. And I've never read once that someone who uses a high volt device has gone back to analogs like those who have given up using a Smoke Everywhere for example.

As far as the apperance of the Prodigy or any of the high volt PV's, I'm glad they don't lool like analogs. I'm not a smoker anymore and I don't want to be confused with smoking, either. In fact, IMO, the more this looks like smoking the more resistence there will be from non-smokers and groups like ASH. I plan to try some of the "stealth" liquid that is invisible.
If I close my eyes and vape, the end result is still the same.:)
WV....If you just hold the draw in for 3 or 4 seconds....nothing comes out anyhow..LOL...Might save some money there instead of going to "Stealth Mode"!! I don't think any of us Ex-Smokers want to be reminded of our past habit.The prodigy is a far cry from what we were used to holding in our hands.I actually like the feel of my 801 box mod.....just need to give it an upgrade on power is all....should work the same...and be more cost effective to reproduce if need be! I am still trying to grasp the concept of ASH and their interest in us and what we do...but then again I just became a non-smoker less than 8 months ago after 30 years of smoking.:)The Wiz!
 

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WV.....
Thanks for the post!!!
I kinda forgot that we can actually talk about vaping here!!! LOL!!!
I agree with you and the Wiz 100%. The higher voltage PV's provide the most "analog like" sensation of all the e-cigs out there.
Hopefully, you will all soon be seeing a video review that clearly demonstrates this theory. It's in the works as we speak, and as soon as Hanover Fist and Myself can get the same weekend off, we'll get it finished. As a kind of "sneak preview" I can tell you that part of the video has us using the same 801 atty on four different PV's. You can clearly see the difference in vapor production betwen the 3.7 volt devices and the 5 and 6 volt units. I didn't realize that there was that much noticable difference until I actually did the test. The down side to this is the fact that it will undoubtedly cause nonbelievers of this theory to accuse us of "rigging" this demonstration. Oh well... that's the risk of a subjective demonstration I suppose!!:D
 

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WV.....
Thanks for the post!!!
I kinda forgot that we can actually talk about vaping here!!! LOL!!!
I agree with you and the Wiz 100%. The higher voltage PV's provide the most "analog like" sensation of all the e-cigs out there.
Hopefully, you will all soon be seeing a video review that clearly demonstrates this theory. It's in the works as we speak, and as soon as Hanover Fist and Myself can get the same weekend off, we'll get it finished. As a kind of "sneak preview" I can tell you that part of the video has us using the same 801 atty on four different PV's. You can clearly see the difference in vapor production betwen the 3.7 volt devices and the 5 and 6 volt units. I didn't realize that there was that much noticable difference until I actually did the test. The down side to this is the fact that it will undoubtedly cause nonbelievers of this theory to accuse us of "rigging" this demonstration. Oh well... that's the risk of a subjective demonstration I suppose!!:D
BM.....I look forward to seeing that video....make sure it makes it's way here to EC!!:)The Wiz!
 

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My whole reason for using ecigs was to quit smoking and I did. I'm totally satisfied with the low voltage versions. They have kept me from craving an analog for over 7 months. I figure as long as that's the case I don't really need anything more. I'm actually using a 401 Dragon more than anything else right now. It hits as good as a 510. I got a Screwdriver a while back just because of all the hype even though I didn't really need it. It works fine but I'm actually thinking of selling it since I don't really use it anymore. I'm sure the high voltage one's a great and are totally different as far as the similarity to smoking analogs but as long as the low voltage one is keeping me at the point I'm at now I can't justify spending another $150.
 

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My whole reason for using ecigs was to quit smoking and I did. I'm totally satisfied with the low voltage versions. They have kept me from craving an analog for over 7 months. I figure as long as that's the case I don't really need anything more. I'm actually using a 401 Dragon more than anything else right now. It hits as good as a 510. I got a Screwdriver a while back just because of all the hype even though I didn't really need it. It works fine but I'm actually thinking of selling it since I don't really use it anymore. I'm sure the high voltage one's a great and are totally different as far as the similarity to smoking analogs but as long as the low voltage one is keeping me at the point I'm at now I can't justify spending another $150.
Houdini...the one problem with the high voltage versions is that they make the previous models that we have spent our hard earned dollers on obsolete.My advice to someone in your position would be to keep your $ in your pocket and use what's working for you...I would recommend a prodigy(or similar device)to someone just starting out...or thinking of jumping back into the analog game!!Love the new avatar....very dashing!!!:)The Wiz!
 

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My whole reason for using ecigs was to quit smoking and I did. I'm totally satisfied with the low voltage versions. They have kept me from craving an analog for over 7 months. I figure as long as that's the case I don't really need anything more. I'm actually using a 401 Dragon more than anything else right now. It hits as good as a 510. I got a Screwdriver a while back just because of all the hype even though I didn't really need it. It works fine but I'm actually thinking of selling it since I don't really use it anymore. I'm sure the high voltage one's a great and are totally different as far as the similarity to smoking analogs but as long as the low voltage one is keeping me at the point I'm at now I can't justify spending another $150.



If it aint broke... Don't fix it!!!
I guess You've just nailed the whole point of vaping in general Houdini... to get off analogs and use whatever works for you to do it!!! $150.00 is still a bunch of money in anybody's book, and to spend it needlessly is truely a waste of that heard earned money.
In my own case, vaping has become a bit more to me than just getting off analogs. It's become a hobby of sorts, and somewhat of a collection to boot! Not to mention a social and entertainment passtime. Even though I've put together a pretty good collection of PV's, I have to admit, that I only use 2 or 3 of them on a regular basis, and should probably get rid of the ones that I'm not using. If the e-cig that I purchased origionally had done the trick as far as getting me to quit smoking, I probably would never have gotten to where I am today with my collection. However, it didn't, and I chased a bunch of PV's down in an effort to find something that would get me to quit. It wasn't until I got into the higher voltage units, that I was finally able to put down the analogs and concentrate on just vaping. I don't regret the path I took to get where I am today, as it has afforded me the opportunity to meet and make friends with some wonderful people, and to learn a little more about my self along the way. Looking back, I realize that I wouldn't trade my experience for anything! The friends that I have, the laughter we have shared, and even some of the drama that has occured, has all happened to advance me as a person, and cause me to grow. Getting off cigarettes was the initial goal, but the end result has gone far beyond my expectations, and for that, I am eternally grateful!!
Vape on Houdini... and thanks for your input!:D

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Agreed Bite. Especially about the friends part. Aside from the health issues one of the best parts about quitting analogs for me was becoming friends with all the people here including all the one's at the other place that used to be here.
Houdini.....You have pulled one out of your hat again.We are a fortunate group(us 6 months or betters),to have had the oppertunity to get to know one another....and I to still like alot of the folks over there at the other place as well...I wonder if it's appropriate to call them "refugees" over here?..LOL.We are a blessed group of indiviuals!!:)The Wiz!
 

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Houdini.....You have pulled one out of your hat again.We are a fortunate group(us 6 months or betters),to have had the oppertunity to get to know one another....and I to still like alot of the folks over there at the other place as well...I wonder if it's appropriate to call them "refugees" over here?..LOL.We are a blessed group of indiviuals!!:)The Wiz!
Well, they got the Refugee Camp over there to "discuss" what happens here. I suppose there could be one here but I'd have nothing bad to say about anyone over there. I'm pretty sure everyone here that knows about the other place is a member there and most members there still come here. I still read a lot over there and post occasionally if I have any filth to spread but that's about it.:)
 

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Well, they got the Refugee Camp over there to "discuss" what happens here. I suppose there could be one here but I'd have nothing bad to say about anyone over there. I'm pretty sure everyone here that knows about the other place is a member there and most members there still come here. I still read a lot over there and post occasionally if I have any filth to spread but that's about it.:)
Houdini......As most here know I am a member there as well.While it's fun at times to post swear words..I have never said anything negative about anyone over there(a fun poke or two)but never anything mean spirited.It does feel odd at times that I can go away for a month or two..and no one questions where I have been,and they do treat me well.My concerns have always been with direct ECF attacks.As you mentioned,we all spawned from here,and some continue to post at both forums.I have been trying as of late to find out what fuels the fire that burns there,and have gained some insight on certain subjects.I'm sure there will come a day when both forums become independant from each other...and in my opinion I think that would be for the best!! You and I are alot alike in retrospect...We are both "enigmas" who can travel back and forth without recourse!!Must be the "Magic" in our avatars...LOL:)The Wiz!
 
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