Many Physicians do not now about e cigs

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Hello all. I am a physician working on an article on e cigarettes and the true question every one wants to know is vaping safer than smoking.
Also how save is vaping compared to smoking. I can not make any medical recomendations on this site due to the litigenous nature of our society but As my study of vaping elicits data I will share the findings. So far I have been impressed with the data I have seen on this site and the factual nature of the PG data from the epa. I do have some comments for health saftey.
if you have a child at home and are using bottles of e-liquids the lethal dose is 10mg for a child so please use child proof bottles.
the lethal dose for adults is 40-60 mg of nicotine and we all know it is rapidly absorbed thru the skin or nicotine patches would not work. If you spill a lot of liquid on yourself you could die.
make sure that on you e cigarette device that there is no possibility of comming into contact with a sizable amount of liquid.
I think there are some things that can and should be done to maintain the availability of vaping in the us
first there needs to be standardization of the liquids in chemical composition. the producers of the components need to get together and decide on the composition. It will be much easier to do safty data analysis if there are not 100s of different formulations. you will need this to fight the FDA. Ruyan has some data created by Murry Laugesen that looks like it is a good place to start for standardization.
From what I have seen so far I do see e cigarettes as a potential benifit and I think that the are likely going to be proven to be much safter than cigarettes. I also suspect that big tobacco sees this also and will spend a lot of money to destroy e cigarettes. The best way to fight this will be with science, research, and documented proof that e cigarettes pose a better alternative to regular cigarettes and have a public health value in terms that realistically most people addicted to nicotine can never quit. If my assumptions are correct and e cigarettes are around long enough to study I think we will see a reduction in all cause mortality amoung nicotine users. Do not forget that reg cigarettes in addition to carcinogens have carbon monoxide and e cigarettes do not.
Any one who has links to good credible research data please post since the more I have the better.
 

l337acc

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...I also suspect that big tobacco sees this also and will spend a lot of money to destroy e cigarettes.

I've noticed that there is big money in this market plus lots of taxes that is sure to piss off alot of people at the top...

Which is why I wonder why don't these tobacco companies make their own damn e-cigarettes if they stand to lose much money? Seriously, why fight it and spend so much money on keeping us on analogs?


Unless there truly is a conspiracy *gasp*

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If the FDA bans e-cigs, I will quit ALL tobacco products

If the FDA/Government bans growing your own food, I will quit eating... Lord only knows whats in the mass produced food that is so important for us.

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VapingRulz

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Welcome to ECF, Doc!

I have a small child and a cat in the house so my vaping supplies are stored on a very high shelf where little hands and paws can't reach. I think that most people with children are well accustomed to child-proofing with all sorts of dangerous substances.

I do agree that e-cigs must be less dangerous than traditional burning cigarettes. It's really not rocket science. The motives of any person/entity who claims otherwise are highly suspect.

Big Tobacco *and* Big Pharma are both going after e-cigs because they pose a huge threat to profits. I agree with the poster above: why on earth isn't BT jumping on the e-cig bandwagon at this point? E-cigs are poised to go viral. If they don't hurry up and get on board, they stand to lose a lot. It appears that they've chosen instead a strategy of misinformation in the [misguided] belief that if e-cigs get enough bad press, they'll be banned everywhere and they will go away.

I don't believe that e-cigs are going to go away. A smoker can no longer enjoy any aspect of smoking. Between the health risks, smoking bans, and punitive taxes, the party is over. There's a safer alternative without the drawbacks that is ready to jump in and fill the void.

E-cigs are going to take off big time at some point within the next 12-18 months, regardless of what federal/state/local governments, Big T and Big P have to say about it. I think the e-cig phenomenon is unstoppable.

I hope I'm right and we don't see a book or movie in 30 years time named "Who Killed the Electric Cigarette?"
 

MissVapor

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Any one who has links to good credible research data please post since the more I have the better.

I know there are a few companies who have done research and tested the liquids..but what would be even better is if you are actually a Doctor that the research come from you and other willing physicians..

It seems to me you have more access to doing these tests at a lower cost as I know that the money has always been an issue for us "vapers" to get together in order to follow through with it...


We need someone like you to take a stance on this issue to give more credibility to the situation instead hearing about ridiculous FDA reports on the news..

So if you REALLY want to help, don't rely on any previous tests to get your info from and take charge of this yourself to get reliable uncluttered info..

Just my 2 cents..thanks for stopping by..;)
 
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