Masking the Floral

[hiatus]

I have a couple of very fruity juices that are good but come off really floral. Is there something I can add to to tone down the floral part? I thought about maybe a little of a bitter chocolate. I'll probably try airing it out and steeping also.

 

[frequentj]

Are you possibly using too much flavoring? What percentage? Sometimes too much will give your juice a really perfumey taste. You can try adding a couple drops of lemon juice, vinegar, or tart & sour.

 

[Hoosier]

I agree with frequentj, could be going into level 7 range. (See my flavoring level blog for that reference.)

What flavorings at what % does this occur with?

 

[purelyscientific]

It occurs with blackberry at 20%. DONT GO THAT HIGH with that flavor. lol

 

[wolcen]

It occurs with blackberry at 20%. DONT GO THAT HIGH with that flavor. lol

Who's blackberry it is makes a big difference on guidance there. For example, 2.5% is plenty for VZ's super concentrated or ECX's Fruit Express.

 

[purelyscientific]

It might be TPA. Im not sure. I got it from wizard labs

 

[wolcen]

Probably 90% of the current Wizard labs lineup is TPA, including that one. I'm not sure what the recommended % is for Blackberry though, sorry. Other TPA flavors range from exceedingly low (e.g. black sesame @ <1%) to rather high - certainly all the way up to 20% for a few at least. On the average, I'm guessing 10% is pretty close, but I usually start with less than that anyway and work up, at least on the first attempt.

Good luck with it!

 

[favor1]

TPA Blackberry tastes perfumy imo @ 15%. I like it better at 10%, but it's not a decent standalone I think.

 

[wolcen]

Potential mix-in's for such a fruit (staying with BB as the primary) might be: sucralose (sweet), ethyl maltol (flavor enh/some sweet), citric and or malic acids (or even a touch of lemon juice for some "pop" or "brightness").

Some people love "fruit+ice" flavors too, such as you could make with menthol or especially koolada (ethyl methyl lactate IIRC - cooling effect w/out the overwhelming menthol taste).

Many flavorings won't make an awesome juice just by themselves unfortunately.

 

[frequentj]

Oh, yeah, I usually only use tpa blackberry at about 7%.

P.S. I like to mix it with lorann's lemonade for blackberry lemonade.

 

[favor1]

I tried blackberry again after a 3 day steep and it sort of reminds me of TPA's black cherry. Sort of like a "Black Cherry Cough Drop" without the menthol or sweetness. It's decent now. Probably would go better blended though.