Max reliability / least hassle APV setup?

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yep, a Provari with the extension cap and some 18650 batteries would fit the bill, would get at least 3 batteries,. If I was going to buy a tank to just fill and go, would look at the Aspire Vivi Nova BDC tank. Inexpensive and great reviews. Has a replaceable head unit so minimum fuss.

I started out with the same view that you have. Don't be surprised if a month or two down the road that you are wrapping micro coil builds, and making up a new recipe with the DIY supplies that just arrived, and marveling about your original view.

Welcome and good luck on your vape gear decision.

Yea those Aspire clearo's are great, especially on a Provari, I think those will replace the evod sooner or later, great flavor and zero wicking issues nhaler.com for $10 bucks- 5 pack of coils for $13 bucks, get one for sure
 

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I feel this is a subjective topic and I'll give my reasoning as well as an example as to why.

Prior to purchasing my 2010 Audi S4, I did a lot of research on reliability and maintenance. I was not about to recklessly spend my hard earned money.

Many reviews I found online had it rated at 3/5 and deemed the car, essentially unreliable and expensive to maintain. I also spoke with numerous mechanics, Euro car aficionados, and got their opinions and take on this matter. Ultimately it came down to a BMW mechanic that I has spoken with that finally swayed my decision to purchase the car. I point out "BMW" as to have no biases for Audi.

He basically stated what I had already known from personal experience. Anything will last long AND be reliable, if proper maintenance is applied. Granted he did say maintenance might be more costly than say a Honda Civic, but, reliability is not an issue. He then showed me his very well taken care of 1984 BMW M3. :)

Moral of the story - buy the APV you want, take care of it, and it will take care of you.
 

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I feel this is a subjective topic and I'll give my reasoning as well as an example as to why.

Prior to purchasing my 2010 Audi S4, I did a lot of research on reliability and maintenance. I was not about to recklessly spend my hard earned money.

Many reviews I found online had it rated at 3/5 and deemed the car, essentially unreliable and expensive to maintain. I also spoke with numerous mechanics, Euro car aficionados, and got their opinions and take on this matter. Ultimately it came down to a BMW mechanic that I has spoken with that finally swayed my decision to purchase the car. I point out "BMW" as to have no biases for Audi.

He basically stated what I had already known from personal experience. Anything will last long AND be reliable, if proper maintenance is applied. Granted he did say maintenance might be more costly than say a Honda Civic, but, reliability is not an issue. He then showed me his very well taken care of 1984 BMW M3. :)

Moral of the story - buy the APV you want, take care of it, and it will take care of you.


I'm sorry but that's a load of crap,

Reliability is a function of material and design. A solid product will survive under circumstances that a less solid one will not. More importantly something that is capable of surviving extreme situations is less likely to fail under more mundane circumstances.

Sure if you are talking about items of similar build quality/reliability Honda vs BMW/Audi what you assert may be somewhat true, but not if your talking Mercedes vs Yugo.
 

Brass

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I'm sorry but that's a load of crap,

Reliability is a function of material and design. A solid product will survive under circumstances that a less solid one will not. More importantly something that is capable of surviving extreme situations is less likely to fail under more mundane circumstances.

Sure if you are talking about items of similar build quality/reliability Honda vs BMW/Audi what you assert may be somewhat true, but not if your talking Mercedes vs Yugo.

Comparison is of same price point. And not getting off-topic, A honda/benz/ferrari that is regularly taken in for maintenance will last longer than one that is not.

So whether you want a surefire mech mod, provari vv, nemesis, etc.. Just pick one, take care of it, and reliability will not be an issue.
 
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Well, my mind's made up. I'll be getting a REO Grand, and a bunch of accessories, among them atomizers of various strength.

My decision-making process, in case you care, was this: I read through the recommended newbie threads, all of which were immensely helpful, and got my head around the basics. This took far longer than I'd thought. I had marked down two days in my calendar to "read up on vaping and get a kit" (heh) and came away with two weeks of nightly study, including a refresher course in electrical engineering 101. But at least I now know my volts from my ohms.

I quickly realized that rather than a cigarette lookalike, I'd want the biggest batteries and tanks, hence an APV. My next criteria were, and remain, maximum reliability and minimal hassle, which led me to the Provari and (soon after) the REO. Both get excellent reviews, and looking at the way they are made (and the price, ahem) it's easy to see why. In the end, the encased tank of the REO tipped the scales - I just didn't want to carry around a pack of cartomizers or screw on larger tanks that might leak, bend or break off when I toss the thing into my backpack.

I then spent a long time weighing the relative benefits of variable voltage. Almost all experienced vapers seem to want higher than usual voltage, and a way to control it. This means electronics - but if they quit on you, you can't fix it yourself. So I settled for a mechanical mod, and an assortment atomizers with different resistance; the expectation being that I'll use direct drip or cartos at home until I find the juice/voltage combo(s) I like, then stick with one configuration during the day. I realize that this means more fiddling than I'd initially expected I would want, but one can't (yet?) have it both ways, it seems.

Let me close by saying that I am deeply grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread or wrote a newbie guide. The sense of community and the kindness shown to strangers here reminds me a lot of the Internet in the early 90s. I'm glad to have found a place where it lingers on. Getting into vaping is a real headf- ... a real challenge, and I would have given up on it on day one had I not found this forum, and your advice. And that would have meant continuing to smoke tobacco, inhaling tar and hundreds of other carcinogenic compounds.

So thank you very much.
 
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