Maybe I'm just whiny IDK.....

[Ryle]

IDK, this sounds dumb just thinking about saying it, but I know if I don't then I'll be kicking myself in the .... until I do. Jeesh I feel mental sometimes...

Ok so I totally fell of the Vapeing bandwagon back in November, I've been 95% analog since, well I promised my mom & my bf that as soon as my next order comes in I'll quit for good (used failing parts as an excuse to put it off, or other bills as an excuse not to buy parts months ago).. well Payday was Monday, so I placed an order last night.. so it's coming. But I have to confess, I'm sort of scared to try and quit again. Last time it was fairly easy, I was all excited about my new toy and being the technology addict that I am it was easy to get caught up in the excitement. .. but now it's not that exciting anymore, it's replacing cigarettes with somehting that is almost the same but is still lacking something I cant quite place (for me at least)

Oh and did I mention that EVERYONE around me except for my BF is a 2 pack a day smoker, and my bf doesn't smoke anything at all, never took so much as a drag off a cig in his life so he just cant understand how I feel. OH and of course since everyone I know smokes I get "come smoke with me" or "Wanna go smoke?" about 50x a day!

So I guess I'm just kinda lookin for some moral support? Normally I just tough stuff out on my own because I'm a super reserved moderatly anti social person. But I know that if I don't ask for help I'm gonna fail. Honestly only half of me wants to quit again, and the half that does want to quit is terrified the FDA is gonna get their grubbie paws on the whole thing and shut it down then I'll be SOL all the way around (won't be able to go back to analogs without upsetting those that care, and won't be able to give up nicotine all together)

so yea? Any help offered is welcome

 

[Mary Kay]

Ryle, I have heard how hard second time vape to quit is. I haven't gone back to analogs (yet). But I do know what you mean by being surrounded by smokers and the feeling that I don't want to quit!
I am a kind of dig my heels in and refuse anything "they" tell me to do..a real die hard 60's girl. But my hubby is dying of heart disease and has C.O.P.D.. He needed to DO something. So enter E-cigs. I got them for both of us, because misery loves company. He is still smoking and vaping 50/50 (24/36 nic). I quit analogs and vape 11, 6 and 0 nic.
My mom smokes in the house also.
I have to tell you, I am happier then I have been in a long time about doing something for me! Their smoking doesn't bother me unless the smoke drifts in my face. Granted, I still have some smokey scent on me from thier smoke, but nothing like before, I can smell and taste again and I feel better.
Do it for yourself, don't end up with yellow teeth, stinky hair and clothes, heart and lung disease. Think about being around for a good long time, happy and healthy.
You sound like a strong young person who is worried about failure..welcome to the club, We all live in dread of that analog that will drag us back (no pun intended). All I can say is..try and try again. Take up a hobby that will keep your hands busy. Go play some sports, find a new Non smoking love of your life and come here for support.

 

[Ryle]

That's why I'm here.. for the support I mean

My bf is probably honestly the only reason I really want to quit. I mean yea I have my moments when I worry about my health or I think about how much easier it was to breathe during the times I quit, but the reality is... I'm 20.. I have a hard time focusing on the long term, I've never believed I'd live to see 40 so the idea of cancer just doesn't scare me.

Honestly what I need is for someone to put their boot in my @$$ and force me to quit no matter how hard I kick and scream and fight it. I sure as hell wish my dad had been man enough to do it when I was 13 and started in the first place. but all I can really hope for is support from other E-cig users and hope that it's enough, no one else really gets it.. make sense?

 

[TxTrouble]

Ryle,
Dont use it to quit smoke. Use it to cut back on the analogs. When I started e-cig I told everyone "I am not trying to quit smoking. I am simply trying to cut back." Sure enough I have pretty much quit. Yes I slip up occasionally and smoke 1-2 analogs every 2 weeks or so. Although I used to smoke 2 1/2 packs a day so I am not complaining.

 

[Raven_Blackblade]

This is something that I understand on so many level.

When I quit on the 29th of April, Because of both of my batteries needing to be charged just 2 days after I quit I was fiending. My fiance says "Go ahead and have a cigarette. You have only quit 2 days it isnt like it is going to kill you!" Gee great support.

Everyone goes outside to smoke or into the bathroom. They are all being social doing that while I sit in the house and vape.

Sometimes you feel like even though you are supposed to enjoy the nice part about being able to vape is being indoors, not freezing your ... off, blah blah blah.... now you are still being isolated.

The non smokers dont want you, and the smokers dont want you. Its like being a mixed race back inthe 1800s It blows.


/rant and sympathy.

 

[Raven_Blackblade]

That's why I'm here.. for the support I mean

My bf is probably honestly the only reason I really want to quit. I mean yea I have my moments when I worry about my health or I think about how much easier it was to breathe during the times I quit, but the reality is... I'm 20.. I have a hard time focusing on the long term, I've never believed I'd live to see 40 so the idea of cancer just doesn't scare me.

Honestly what I need is for someone to put their boot in my @$$ and force me to quit no matter how hard I kick and scream and fight it. I sure as hell wish my dad had been man enough to do it when I was 13 and started in the first place. but all I can really hope for is support from other E-cig users and hope that it's enough, no one else really gets it.. make sense?

Here ya go. Find a juice you REALLY REALLY like. Next thing you know you wont care about cigarettes

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

No, you're not being whiney. You are an addict with a difficult road ahead. But, you only fail to quit smoking when you give up.

Start thinking about the PV as a different brand of cigs. When you have a particularly intense craving, spike your juice with some high-nic stuff. Don't go cold turkey on the analogs, either, if you absolutely HAVE to have 1, have 1. Remind yourself it's only 1, not 2, not 5, not a pack.....

There are other substitutes out there, too. Try checking the "Other alternatives to smoking" in the health section of this forum for.....other alternatives.

Above all, keep coming to the forum for support and encouragement (and the occasional goofy remark)

Stay Strong!

 

[Willowsong]

I gave myself two weeks to transition from analogs to only vaping. Day one, I smoked when I wanted to and sorta "played" with the e-cig. Day two and three I vaped more than smoked an tried to find those "key" smoking moments. Days 4-6 I was down to a comfy 5 analogs a day. Day 7-14 I dropped it to 3.

My last smoke was Memorial day.

Give yourself time to transition, and don't beat yourself up!

 

[Halfzipp]

You have to stop telling yourself that you are quitting, because you really are Not. You are still getting your nicotine and oral fix. The only thing you are 'quitting' is inhaling the harmful chemicals that are in analogs. Plain and simple.

EDIT:

Making the change from analog to digital, if you will, is completely mental. Stop telling yourself youre quitting and start telling yourself youre just doing it a safer way. Thats really what it comes down to.

 

[pipe6078]

i quit totally on may 6th then because i'm new i didnt order enough juice and stuff so i smoked between orders so when i started vaping again it was harder and i was shocked so i kept reading and i kicked it up from 24mg to 36. this has really worked and when i feel safe again then i'll go back down again. i only started hoping to cut down and not pay anymore gov. taxes or the high price of analogs. anger love passion these are also part of any successfull journy so Ryle find your bliss and good luck

 

[Uncle Bill]

In your words: You're 20, you look at life in the short term, you don't expect to see 40 years of age, and you have no concern about the cancer (health) risks of tobacco smoking.

In my estimation you are not yet ready for the PV experience. You might as well stay with the analogs until your sensibilities mature. There's no harm in that. At some future time and place your values will shift and you'll be better motivated to make positive, perhaps tough choices regarding yourself and your relationships.

I know I'll draw flack for saying these things, but I was 20 once, and also viewed life with a casual flippancy.

 

[Mary Kay]

Bill, That was well thought out! Ryle, You said you wished you had gotten a kick..there it is, as well as support.
Good luck.

 

[sherid]

I was thinking about this today in a slightly different way. I was considering how e smoking works best at the beginning when the devices are new, there are new flavors and tricks to try, and it feels just really cool to use a new toy. Then, vaping becomes an everyday habit, and it loses its newness. That's when it is probably easiest to flip back to the cigs. You get tired of all the maintenance and bad parts and know how simple it is to just flip your bic. I've been feeling much the same way the past couple of weeks. There is a LOT of stress in my life right now, and my patience is wearing thin, and I don't feel like fussing with an e cig. I ordered two new kinds this week to reawaken my interest. I feel like e smoking must be a lot like pipe smoking, especially the collecting part. Vaping does not have to be full time. You can dramatically cut back on smoking and vape the rest of the time...the best of both worlds. It's rather hard to make vaping mainstream in our lives when we don't know if we will even be able to buy parts and new equipment if the anti smokers have their way. It is also hard to get mainstream with it when we have to order everything online and wait. I would love to see a store at the mall or downtown, filled with new models and juices. Now that would be a fun shopping trip. So, we still have a ways to go, and not all of us are as successful as others.

 

[orlampagal]

I read the entire thread and agree with you... It happened to me as well. My mom and I were not going to pay 40 bucks a carton, with a pack a day habit for each of us. I ordered the 901 because everyone claimed it was the best starter e-cig. I even ordered 2 extra batteries and two extra atomizers (for each of us)

Week two, 2 out of 3 atomizers are dead on mine, and 2 batteries are dead, awaiting shipment of new batteries and passthrough for car trips
Week 2 1/2, blew out final battery and atomizer just in time for the new ones to arrive
week 3, blew out 3 batteries, and 2 atomizers, down to just one atomizer and a passthrough.
week 4, mother blew out one battery and 1 atomizer
week 4 1/2 ordered 510
week 5 Ordered mom 3 more batteries and 2 atomizers for her 901
week 6 ran out of juice (left my mom the remaining 10 ml and began smoking (7 or 8 a day)
week 7 got juice, got e-cigs, got everything I need, and down to 3 a day
week 8, went two days without an analog (again)
week 9, juice I ordered started tasting horrible, so I ordered more and started smoking again
week 10.... ordered 2 more 510 kits, and new carts for the 901 and 510 and stronger juice.... but still not enough flavor

So I am still smoking about 3 analogs a day, but that saves me 17!! I will try to start only vaping tomorrow (as I will be around my nephews all day)

I ordered 24 mg juice which has a great kick... problem is it doesn't taste good to me... so I am going to search for loranns and try to kick it up a knotch

I have no excuse... I have 6 working batteries, all charged, and 6 atomizers (one tastes funny so lets say 5)

Sometimes life is all about trial and error. I would try a different e-cig to make it exciting. I am even thinking about an e-cigar

 

[Speedikeys]

I think most of us can identify with what you're going through, Ryle. I know I can. I got my first ecig about three weeks ago and I ordered it thinking I was going to use it to quit smoking. But the truth is, I don't really want to quit smoking. Had some problems with it, it wasn't satisfying me...yada, yada, yada....fast forward to me being where you are now...I'm gonna give it another try, but this time I already know it won't be "just like smokin' a cigarette" so I'm already dreading it, in a way.

But, another thing I also know is that, for me, it's better than going "cold turkey." I'd rather vape than not smoke anything at all. Someone said think of it as switching to another brand of cigarettes, and that's what I'm planning to do. I may not love it as intensely as I love smoking analogs, but it'll grow on me, just like analogs did over time.

I used to say I wished my parents had stopped me when I started smoking at 16, too, but that's just putting your responsibility onto someone else. No one can stop you from starting and no one can make you quit... except you. I tried really really hard not to condone my kids smoking...2 out of 3 smoke anyway. They just snuck around behind my back. The other one is so anti-smoking that he's annoying.

UncleBill is right. You're views and beliefs and values will change as you get older and if now isn't the right time for you, someday it will be.

I can tell you this ...At this point in my life, if I could change one thing in my whole life, just one thing, it would be that I would have never started smoking at all. It's not that I've had a peachy life, by any means, it just that's how bad I hate the fact that I have this addiction and have for 34 years.

I'm really glad you started this thread because I think there are a lot of us who needed to talk about this. It is scary but it helps to know other people feel/felt the same way and got through it. I'll look forward to coming back to this thread whenever I feel like I need motivation to stick with it.

 

[squirrel]

Ryle,
Dont use it to quit smoke. Use it to cut back on the analogs. When I started e-cig I told everyone "I am not trying to quit smoking. I am simply trying to cut back." Sure enough I have pretty much quit. Yes I slip up occasionally and smoke 1-2 analogs every 2 weeks or so. Although I used to smoke 2 1/2 packs a day so I am not complaining.

this so true, my pattern also, after a while I just got sick of the dirt taste of analogs and for me the missing factor that I was looking for in vaping was the hunger killing effect analogs have, once I figured out how to counter act that, analogs just disappeared ..Poof, I have 2 packs of analogs sitting on my table, when I look at them I remind my self ..."hey man, you do not like the taste of dirt..remember?" why would I put dirt in my mouth?

 

[mamacat]

I read the entire thread and agree with you... It happened to me as well. My mom and I were not going to pay 40 bucks a carton, with a pack a day habit for each of us. I ordered the 901 because everyone claimed it was the best starter e-cig. I even ordered 2 extra batteries and two extra atomizers (for each of us)

So I am still smoking about 3 analogs a day, but that saves me 17!! I will try to start only vaping tomorrow (as I will be around my nephews all day)

I ordered 24 mg juice which has a great kick... problem is it doesn't taste good to me... so I am going to search for loranns and try to kick it up a knotch

I have no excuse... I have 6 working batteries, all charged, and 6 atomizers (one tastes funny so lets say 5)

Sometimes life is all about trial and error. I would try a different e-cig to make it exciting. I am even thinking about an e-cigar

Orlampagal - my story is really similar to yours except my cartons were $50 and it was my hubby. We got the 901s - three fully functional ones for each of us. But we had very few problems with batts and attys. I always had more on the way...lol Not to mention, I went to 36mg and cut it down with 18mg and found my nirvana for a juice. And, I also still smoke three analogs a day.

I am thinking if I can get past the one in the early morning and the one before bed, then I will have it licked. I recently got a 510, so I am hoping that it will give me the kick in the .... I need in the morning and bedtime. I tried it this morning and it seemed to work!! I just have to remember to hit that dang little button - the thing won't work right without it!!

And then there was familial DRAMA in my house this morning, so I had my morning smoke. But, it was some 2 hours after I had gotten up and I still consider that somewhat of a success for me. The further I can get away from having that smoke in the morn, the easier it will get for me.

Ryle - I wish you the best and please keep us posted!! And just know that you are not alone!!

 

[Ladycats]

In your words: You're 20, you look at life in the short term, you don't expect to see 40 years of age, and you have no concern about the cancer (health) risks of tobacco smoking.

In my estimation you are not yet ready for the PV experience. You might as well stay with the analogs until your sensibilities mature. There's no harm in that. At some future time and place your values will shift and you'll be better motivated to make positive, perhaps tough choices regarding yourself and your relationships.

I know I'll draw flack for saying these things, but I was 20 once, and also viewed life with a casual flippancy.

Well put Bill ! It's funny how life just jumps up and bites ya in the .... .. from out of no where , isn't it ....
Best of luck Ryle ....

 

[Ryle]

First. I meant to get back on here and reply to this earlier.. I hate it when I start a conversation/thread and then vanish! But.. sigh.. between work and family and everything else I managed to neglect it.. SORRY

First.. let me say I had my last analog at 6PM PST last night (06/08/2009) .. my ticker is off by a couple hours but honestly I'm too irritated right now to mess with it

IDK, maybe I took bill's post wrong ...... I'm like super stupid emotional today.. haven't had a cig since like 6 yesterday and I've got this ......ed constant wanna cry feeling.. it wasn't like this last time, today I literally started crying because I ripped my pants.. WTF?? I havent cried over anything even half that trivial since I was 5! I only ever cry when I lose someone I love, and I was reduced to tears over a pair of pants?? Not even an expensive pair, a $20 pair of walmart special slacks I bought for work! I should totally be shot ... but it seems to me like Bill was basically saying "don't bother quitting" maybe he misunderstood my statement. I want to quit for other reasons. but any time people try to use the "health" angle it doesnt work, I'm not scared of death, I truely don't care, no I'm not emo or any of that ......ed ****, I've just accepted the reality of nature and I'm not worried about it, we all have to die sometime right? That was always my answer to the "quit smoking or you'll die" angle.

No, I want to quit because I'm tired of not being able to walk up the stairs without huffing and puffing, I'm tired of waking up some days feeling like I got punched in the chest, I'm tired of the cough, and most of all I'm tired of my the way my boyfriend pulls away from me if I get too close to him too soon after smoking. I'm sure the ladies out there can understand the perspective on that one, doesn't really make you feel too attractive and "womanly" when your boyfriend/husband/whatever pulls away from you, no matter what the reasoning behind it. I want to quit for my mom, she's been taking care of her mom for the last 3 years and watching her die from smoking herself to death and she worries about me, I don't, but she does and my mom doesn't need anymore stress. I want to quit be cause my little sister (also my best friend) is an avid anti smoker and allergic to the smoke but will hang out around me just to be near me even when I'm smoking and I always feel like a total ....... when she starts wheezing and coughing because of MY decision. She shouldn't be tortured because I was a stubborn little **** when I was 13, it's not fair.

Of all of you it seems that Speedikeys and Raven_Blackblade were able to understand my point of view the best, you all are very helpful, don't get me wrong, when I got on here I was spazzing wanting a cigarette, vaping my ultra high strawberry (my favorite juice) like a friggin pacifier, I've made myself "high" about 3x today but the craving for a cigarette is still there! I'm alternating between my 901, 510, (both from phil at e-smokey treats) and my mini from skyrl that I don't know the modle of but it's like super tiny. They all have the kick, they all have the nicotine, but there's just something missing and my brain is having a total fit about it. Honestly I think the worst of it is the feeling of isolation. When I'm at home it isn't hard not to smoke.. but driving!! OMG Driving is horrible because I've always been a chainsmoking driver, or at work, everyone smokes. At home I can hide in my room and avoid the smokers, but at work I get to her "hey ya wanna go smoke?" or "lets go burn one" about 15x a day! I'm undecided if I should go outside and take a break or if doing so would just make me want to smoke even more than I already want to.
For the record, I can't "ease off" analogs, if I try that I'll just make excuses and excuses and never actually do it. I'm an all or nothing kind of person I can't do gentle.

I seriously do appreciate all the replies and all the support. When I first got on here I was seriously feeling like I was losing my mind. Now that I've read all your replies and vented a bit I feel at least 50% better

 

[need_2quit]

it's too bad you can't ease off analogs. sometimes it just takes having one when the situation demands one. like looking at a chocolate cake sitting there and you want a piece, but think you shouldn't because you haven't had a decent meal all day. You can eat everything under the sun, but that chocolate cake is what you really want. For me, I'd have a piece of cake and move on. It's the fretting over whether you have a cig or not that is such a time waster.

I smoke 2-3 or none analogs a day and I'm fine with that. I'm only competing with myself if I put myself under pressure. that's just insane to do that.

Give yourself TIME. As with any habit, when you no longer need it = you'll realize it has vanished on it's own. vape more when the urge hits to see if that satisfys you first.

please don't beat yourself up over it, and don't let others do it to you either! would you let someone give you crap in the same way over other things in your life? Probably not. I know I wouldn't. Although I never let anti-smokers give me the lecture route either.

you're young and the lessons you learn through this process will serve you well throughout your life. Don't let others rob you of respect for yourself in whatever state you are in and you'll do fine.

some ppl drop analogs the moment they vape the first time. others it takes time. in the same way someone can do .... and be hooked for life. others it's recreational. everyone is different