RDA Maybe its my imagination

[Str8Jacket J]

I'm pretty new to RDAs so at risk of this sounding dumb, here goes...

I've had a coil build in my Plume Veil since thursday. And half way through today i noticed the vapor was significantly warmer than it has been. The wick doesn't look burnt and it doesn't taste burnt but it is definitely hotter. Is this normal or do i have a problem with my coil?

Thanks for all input!

 

[alicewonderland]

maybe you changed the settings on your mod if its a vv/vw mod.

 

[edyle]

I guess that means you don't know the ohms of the coil.

 

[k702]

tighten down the post screws

 

[HecticEnergy]

what the above posters said.
make sure your coil isnt shorting out on something ( coil coming in contact with the deck or negative screw ).
readjust your airflow.
You could also have some hotspots if nothing else.. pull the cotton pulse the coil and see what happens.

 

[Str8Jacket J]

Its on a Cloupor 30w mini. .63ohm, 30w, and 4.3v. The settings have been constant. Both screws are tight.

when you said pulse the coil, do you mean to the point of turning red?

 

[HecticEnergy]

Its on a Cloupor 30w mini. .63ohm, 30w, and 4.3v. The settings have been constant. Both screws are tight.

when you said pulse the coil, do you mean to the point of turning red?

Wow - lower your voice

Pulse the coil: push the button briefly, then let off. repeat until the coils glow red. On a .6ohm coil it shouldnt take long to heat. coils should glow from the inside out and the leads to the posts should not be glowing.
Both screws? isnt the plum a 3 (or 4?) post RDA?
Settings have been constant - I'm assuming you are also referring to your airflow settings.

As a side note, if you cut down the gauge of your wire (28 instead of 26 gauge or whatever) and build a bit higher you can push that hana further. The beauty of a regulated mod is you dont have to build super low to get fast and responsive builds that chuck clouds (assuming that's what your after).

 

[Str8Jacket J]

sorry about the font size, I'm doing this on my phone and couldn't read it without zooming in!

And yes, it is a "3" post but the pos block has two holes with 2 screws so theres 4 screws total. But i'm running a single coil and only have 2 legs and those are real tight.

Also yes, the airflow holes are the same. I have only the front hole directly in front of the coil open. Plus the two side holes from the neg posts. The top cap is screwed up all the way closing off the top airflow holes. I'm almost home from work. Will try the coil pulse in a few minutes.

 

[alicewonderland]

if you vape constantly, there is a difference. say you left it for a few hour sthen fire it up and vape, its going to take longer to heat up that first time, but if youre vaping back to back it stays warm and just gets warmer the next time u vape it if you dont give it time to cool down.

 

[Str8Jacket J]

So first thing i did was change my battery. I had 1/4 charge on the battery in it. That seemed to make a difference. I dont know if battery percentage can effect coil temp.

But i pulled out the wick anyway. Dry burned and cleaned the coil after making sure my posts were real tight. And it does glow from inside out. The left leg (side that comes from the bottom of the coil) seemed to glow a little closer to the neg block than the leg that connects to the pos block. Normal?

 

[Str8Jacket J]

Another side note to respond to something you said, I'm actually looking for denser flavor than clouds. Yes i do want a good cloud, don't get me wrong, but i like to taste the flavor. Am i going in the wrong direction?

 

[HecticEnergy]

My leads dont glow at all. Not really sure how to solve that. What gauge wire are you using?

I've found that with dual coil attys if you build with a single coil you get more muted flavor as it has more room to cool and for the flavor to disipate. That isn't to say I like a hot vape, in fact quite the opposite. Maybe try something with a "reduced chamber" not necessarily a conical top cap or anything, but something like a Veritas, where it will hold about half the volume of a standard dripper gives great flavor. Smaller attys usually provide better flavor - like the derringer, cyclone, atomic for single coil builds. One thing you can do to test this theory is pack the unused side of your deck with cotton (juice it so it doesnt catch fire).

I usually build with 28ga around 1.2-1.6 ohms with my single coil RDA/RTAs. Or i'm closer to .6ohms with a dual.
I do have some 24ga .2-.4 ohm setups, but those are more for vapor chuckin.
Maybe try building a bit higher on your Plume and throw a dual coil setup in there if you are comfortable building coils - usually I say stick with single coils until you are good and cranking out a few coils that are identical - same resistance. Just make sure you aren't overdrawing the amp limit of the battery or your mod. Usually I say start with 28ga as its reasonably easy to work with and gives you fast ramp up time at higher ohms.

 

[sparkky1]

Do you have different size tools / drill bits to wrap with ?

 

[Str8Jacket J]

TBH with you, i got the Plume Veil last Thursday and my guy up there built it. I'm not sure what the awg is exactly. It has 8 wraps and reads .63ohm. If you can tell by that I'd like to know what it is.

I've been watching a lot of youtube videos on rda's and coil building, especially rip trippers. And I'm going to get wire by friday to do my first. I work in AC service so i have all the tools including a Field Piece multimeter that reads Ohms.

 

[sparkky1]

Looks like 24ga on 2.3mm

 

[HecticEnergy]

TBH with you, i got the Plume Veil last Thursday and my guy up there built it. I'm not sure what the awg is exactly. It has 8 wraps and reads .63ohm. If you can tell by that I'd like to know what it is.

I've been watching a lot of youtube videos on rda's and coil building, especially rip trippers. And I'm going to get wire by friday to do my first. I work in AC service so i have all the tools including a Field Piece multimeter that reads Ohms.

Yeah, get some single coils under your belt - start with something like 3/32 ID and some 28ga. some like 29 or 30, others prefer 26, but building with 28 is a good middle ground and you can play with other gauge wires later. Personally I despise the "scrunch" method - where you wrap a loose coil then scrunch it against the handle of the screwdriver or whatever - makes for a very loose coil. If you wrap it tight to begin with, and learn to wrap like that, you have far less problems. I think Rip did several builds with the scrunch method... I think coils come out less consistent that way.. but thats all IMO

 

[sparkky1]

You should be getting pretty descent flavor from that coil but have you tried it @ 15 - 20 watts ?

 

[Str8Jacket J]

You should be getting pretty descent flavor from that coil but have you tried it @ 15 - 20 watts ?

I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with the Cloupor 30w mini but i took it down to 20w and hit fire. It did vape but the Ohm reading started flashing. It didn't do it at 25 or 30w. Why would the reading flash?

 

[HecticEnergy]

I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with the Cloupor 30w mini but i took it down to 20w and hit fire. It did vape but the Ohm reading started flashing. It didn't do it at 25 or 30w. Why would the reading flash?

there is no "buck" circuit on that mod so it was just dumping the batteries voltage to your atty. You were not getting the wattage you had it set for.

 

[Str8Jacket J]

I know I'm new to this and will probably catch some "you need to read more" flak but humor me if you will.

Could you elaborate on the buck you were talking about. I'm using Efest IMR 18650 3.7v 2500mah battery.