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After watching that video it's a mod I wouldn't touch and think the company are being a bit deceptive as to new vaper's op included it looks more regulated then mechanical. Being in the UK it wouldn't be an issue the b&m giving me wrong information is all I would need to return it and get a refund, if I were you I'd put it in a draw and use your old setup till you can buy a regulated. Look at rx200 or cuboid on fasttech both very decent mods for the money they cost and far more suitable for you then the Tesla. I would also see if you have any recourse against the b&m as they sound completely incompetent and dishonest.
You're very right when you say incompetent and dishonest, I wonder if they really don't know, or they really don't give a damn, because they're making expensive sales. Dude gave me "15%" off and it was still $54. Which I later saw that it's like $40 ish online. But yea! With this type of battery, the only thing that can determine how much vapor it give will be the resistance in the coils correct? Higher ohm for less vapor and lower for more vapor.

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I tried googling the batteries and got zilch in a regulated mod I might be prepared to use it with those in but a mech not a chance it's doubtful they are high quality cells or information would be more easily available. I guess it comes down to the individuals view on risk for me personally it isn't worth the risk but I have plenty of mods so situation is different to yours I'd build .5+ for that extra piece of mind if I had to use it.
 

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Alright guys, bear with me here, I'm a newbie here who's getting into vaping. So I got me a Tesla Two box mod, unregulated and fires at 4.2V, no option to change the voltage. I just did a lot of research about this type of setup, learned that nickel coils are a definite no no for me. Also heard about instances of these batteries exploding when not used correctly. My question here, is is it safe to use something like the Uwell Crown with this? This battery's resistance goes as low as 0.1 ohms. Is there any big safety tips I should know about this battery that I'm overlooking? Need to know before I buy the Uwell Crown, I know nickel is bad for my setup, but starting with an unregulated mod was a bad idea. Thanks guys!
ummmm .1 ohms pulls 37 Amps... is your battery rated for 42 Amps? Highest amperage a battery Ive "seen" so far is rated at 30A and I doubt thats even a true rating... always give yourself a 10% minimum safety factor ( preferably 20%) which reduces the operating Amps to about 27 - 24... which in turn drives the minimum ohms to .165 @ 107W on a single 4.2V battery... and thats pushing it....

be safe, dont go below .25....
 
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ummmm .1 ohms pulls 37 Amps... is your battery rated for 42 Amps? Highest amperage a battery Ive "seen" so far is rated at 30A and I doubt thats even a true rating... always give yourself a 10% minimum safety factor ( preferably 20%) which reduces the operating Amps to about 27 - 24... which in turn drives the minimum ohms to .165 @ 107W on a single 4.2V battery... and thats pushing it....

be safe, dont go below .25....
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here some of the specs of my mod here, it says it's good for 40amps and it has these certain safety features, none of which I know about truthfully. Still learning most of these things.

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ummmm .1 ohms pulls 37 Amps... is your battery rated for 42 Amps? Highest amperage a battery Ive "seen" so far is rated at 30A and I doubt thats even a true rating... always give yourself a 10% minimum safety factor ( preferably 20%) which reduces the operating Amps to about 27 - 24... which in turn drives the minimum ohms to .165 @ 107W on a single 4.2V battery... and thats pushing it....

be safe, dont go below .25....

The mod uses fixed internal LiPo cells.
They are not removable.
These are not IMR cells.
You are comparing apples to oranges.

It's entirely possible it could handle 40amps.
However you are putting a lot of faith in a 40amp Chinese box mod from a clone company.
There are better options.
 

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The mod uses fixed internal LiPo cells.
They are not removable.
These are not IMR cells.
You are comparing apples to oranges.

It's entirely possible it could handle 40amps.
However you are putting a lot of faith in a 40amp Chinese box mod from a clone company.
There are better options.
And I thought Tesla was a good brand! I've seen lots of good reviews on their stuff and what not, is it really a shady company? If it is, that's good to know! Future reference, we live and learn.

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And I thought Tesla was a good brand! I've seen lots of good reviews on their stuff and what not, is it really a shady company? If it is, that's good to know! Future reference, we live and learn.

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They make decent mechanical clones.
I have some fantastic stuff from them.

However threading a metal tube isn't the same as wiring a 40 amp dedicated battery unregulated box mod.
I have no clue what battery it has, or what the specs are beyond what the box mod ad says.

I sure wouldnt test the limits.

If I were going to build that low in a mechancial I would get a dual 18650 parallel box mod with removable batteries and buy some legit cells.
I personally just don't trust cheap Chinese LiPos.
 

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They make decent mechanical clones.
I have some fantastic stuff from them.

However threading a metal tube isn't the same as wiring a 40 amp dedicated battery unregulated box mod.
I have no clue what battery it has, or what the specs are beyond what the box mod ad says.

I sure wouldnt test the limits.

If I were going to build that low in a mechancial I would get a dual 18650 parallel box mod with removable batteries and buy some legit cells.
I personally just don't trust cheap Chinese LiPos.
Well alright! You all have been really helpful! I'll close with this, using a sub ohm tank with a .25 coil should be safe enough? I might buy the tank and just not go below .25 for piece of mind, and in the future, not take something on impulse!

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Alright guys, so I went ahead and bought a Uwell Crown, would a 0.25 ohm coil be really risky for this? It looks like a 0.25 ohm coil would need 16.8 amps and use 70.56 watts. This in theory SOUNDS okay because the batteries specs are 40 amps and 100 watts, would you all think it should be okay? Or should I possibly stick with 0.5 ohm coil? I know I've asked this, but final opinions! Thanks guys!

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This says the optimal resistance would be 0.1, I won't go this low, lowest I think I would go is 0.25.
 

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The guy at the vapor shop sold it to me and said "this regulates itself depending on what coil you put on it!" Well, I read about this online and saw that that was a huge lie!

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That shop is the reason of accident, and the person who sold you the mod with such arguments should spend his lifetime in prison, or hanged to the closest tree... Good thing you had enough brain to get your self informed in time and avoided possibly lethal accident.
You allready got a bunch of good comments in this thread, but i will just add.
Mech mods are not dangerous if used correctly. If you want to give it a try, make sure you use Kanthal coils only and that resistance does not go below 0.3 or .4 Ohm, assuming you have the battery that can handle so much of a load. Battery quality is as same important as a quality of the mod it self, and one without another just doesn't work properly. Be sure you are buying good batteries, don't go cheap for 1-2 bucks of a price difference.
 

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That shop is the reason of accident, and the person who sold you the mod with such arguments should spend his lifetime in prison, or hanged to the closest tree... Good thing you had enough brain to get your self informed in time and avoided possibly lethal accident.
You allready got a bunch of good comments in this thread, but i will just add.
Mech mods are not dangerous if used correctly. If you want to give it a try, make sure you use Kanthal coils only and that resistance does not go below 0.3 or .4 Ohm, assuming you have the battery that can handle so much of a load. Battery quality is as same important as a quality of the mod it self, and one without another just doesn't work properly. Be sure you are buying good batteries, don't go cheap for 1-2 bucks of a price difference.
The battery claims it can go as low as 0.1 ohm, what do you mean about 0.3 or 0.4? Don't use coils below that range? This battery has a cut off protection if it goes below 0.1 ohms.

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Yup, don't go below that resistance. Although Tesla is not completely unknown, noone knows what kind of batteries are inside. They are connected in parallel, meaning they should be able to go to at least 30A of a discharge, but "they should" is still far far away from "they go". So play safe and you will be OK :)
 
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I have two of the Tesla Sub Box.

Built an atty that the top cap 'shorted' onto the pos pin. Mod would not fire, and i discovered the issue--so it does have short protection.

Mine says '4500mah, max power 100w, 40a, lowest res 0.1Ω'.

I build typically 1.0Ω coils, and these mods last a long time. I really like them on the go.

Vape safe!!
 

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H4XOR, you sent me a PM last night but i guess you have deleted it since i can't access the msg any more.
It doesn't matter what they claim, if you can find a review on youtube where the mod it self gets tested with proper equipment, like theone PBusardo does for example, then you can play with minimum resistances knowing that it should work safely with those loads. I told you, and i still think the same no matter Annie56 said the protection works, it is best for YOUR safety not to go so low with resistances. There is a term for that, and it's called FALSE ADVERTISING. Do not put you health in someone's else hands with untested equipment...

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Trying to find something about those batteries based upon the markings, but nothing came up so far. I couldn't even find ANY 19500 Battery that is Li ion. The one i find out was Li Fe Po and it was on aliexpress, so God knows who's the manufacturer. Anyway. To get stable 40 Amp discharge, means you'd have to have 2 pieces of 20Amp batteries connected in parallel. As far as i know, most of the 18650 batteries are at their limits being discharged at 20Amp current. Smaller battery can only have even worse rating, so i would definitely keep my self on a resistance of at lest 0.3 Ohm or above.
 
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H4XOR, you sent me a PM last night but i guess you have deleted it since i can't access the msg any more.
It doesn't matter what they claim, if you can find a review on youtube where the mod it self gets tested with proper equipment, like theone PBusardo does for example, then you can play with minimum resistances knowing that it should work safely with those loads. I told you, and i still think the same no matter Annie56 said the protection works, it is best for YOUR safety not to go so low with resistances. There is a term for that, and it's called FALSE ADVERTISING. Do not put you health in someone's else hands with untested equipment...

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Trying to find something about those batteries based upon the markings, but nothing came up so far. I couldn't even find ANY 19500 Battery that is Li ion. The one i find out was Li Fe Po and it was on aliexpress, so God knows who's the manufacturer. Anyway. To get stable 40 Amp discharge, means you'd have to have 2 pieces of 20Amp batteries connected in parallel. As far as i know, most of the 18650 batteries are at their limits being discharged at 20Amp current. Smaller battery can only have even worse rating, so i would definitely keep my self on a resistance of at lest 0.3 Ohm or above.
I apologise if i caused any confusion.

I do not build anywhere near 0.1Ω.

I build 1.0Ω, or a dual coil that has a 0.7Ω resistance.

My Sat22 clone cap had a pice of shaving from when it was machined. I did not see it. It shorted onto pos pin of atty. Tesla Sub Box would not fire it.

With the resistance that i use, i never drain these boxes. They never get warm, either. Have no idea if one tried to build super sub ohm. I do not vape that low.

Peace, Annie
 
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