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Memoirs of a Dual Vaping Family

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phanto

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Hi Fellow Antipodeans,

I am half of a 2-vaping family. My partner 'J' and I have been vaping for 8 months now but our histories before and after vapedate are quite different. I am not offering any advice in this post, but there may be a bit of information which some of you guys might find helpful.


I was a heavy smoker for many years but quit cold turkey 12 years ago. Even living in a house generally filled with B&H smoke I was never tempted to even try a cigarette again. But I started vaping to help J quit. She too was a heavy smoker although it would be more accurate to describe her as a heavy buyer. Whereas I smoked my Camels and Chesterfield non-filters down to the very last finger-burning ends J takes ladylike little pufs and leaves her B&H filters burning away in an ashtray creating incense for most of the time that she is 'smoking'. That's why I consider J to be a heavy buyer more so than a heavy smoker. In fact, J was spending $250 per week to produce B&H incense, of which our beloved Government was getting $150. J had tried nicotine patches and lozenges as she approached retirement
because, apart from health issues, she knew all too well that she would not be able to afford her habit. In common with the experiences of the vast majority of smokers, the nicotine patches were a dismal failure.

Two things changed the picture. About 12 months ago, 4 months prior to vapedate, the wife of J's tobacconist had given her a starter kit of eHealth e-cigs. J got home and stuck the box in a drawer, unopened. Four months later I was watching a movie, The Tourist, and saw Johnny Depp smoking an e-cig. "Hey, look at this", I said, "you should try this if you can buy them anywhere". Jill walked out then returned carrying the aforementioned box. "Already got some", she said. "What are they like?" - "Don't know, never tried ..." And that set me off on my vape journey.

To cut a long story short, J has shifted from heavy smoker to light smoker/moderate vaper and I have shifted from non-smoker (ex-smoker) to heavy vaper. J will only use realistic looking e-cigs. I've tried her with 510-Ts and other things but no interest! She kept going back to her tobacconist and buying eHealth, no-nicotine, starter kits along with her regular smokes until I found the eHealth website and now import their basic e-cigs with nicotine which are perfect for J.


One of the big lessons here is that there is a lot more to the smoking habit than nicotine addiction. If that were not so the patches would have a high success rate rather than an 85% failure rate. When people on this and other forums tell you to get right away from realism, don't use something that reminds you of death sticks in appearance or even flavour, .... Well, all I have to say is that advice is usually worth no more than what you pay for it. The only advice I would offer anybody is find what suits you personally. If that means shopping around and making a few false starts, so be it, that's life, and you might never find the perfect answer but you can enjoy the journey.

That's what I am doing. I got nothing from the little units which J likes so I have tried Joye ego-C with type A and B heads, cartomisers (SR and LR), top coil clearomisers like ego-w, and now Kanger T3 bottom coil clearomisers. I power all of those things with gen Joye ego-twist batteries which I think are excellent. I also mix my own liquids. I buy all my hardware from local suppliers, Vapebar and VapeKing mostly - both give fantastic service. Obviously I have to import nico so usually get tobacco flavour concentrates at the same time. My favourite vape this week is a Camel flavoured PG/VG mix in a Kanger T3. Got to say that I really enjoy this even though it does not bring back any "taste memories" from those many years of smoking death sticks. So, I was never tempted to smoke during the last 12 years, and I find the "real things" even more offensive now, but I love vaping. I am more relaxed, I have a new
hobby, and it has greatly reduced my craving for lollies, blackcurrent pies etc. I have lost 5kg weight just from the improved diet and, being diabetic, my blood sugar levels are now easier to manage.

So, in the words of the brilliant but never famous Sixto Rodriguez: "But thanks for your time/Then you can thank me for mine/And after that's said/Forget it".
:):):)
 
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signmeupmeow

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Good story, im glad your partner is off the smokes now, although im curious to know the details of why you picked it up.

What % nic did you start on after you'd been off the smokes for 12 years? I thought if you'd been off them that long you wouldn't want to get back on the nicotine knowing how addictive it is.

Living in a house that was filled with smoke, do you think you could of still been addicted to nic through second hand smoke?

One of my friends mothers, never smoked in her life, but her husband was a heavy smoker. When he died, she immediately took up smoking and is now a heavy smoker.
 

phanto

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"What % nic did you start on after you'd been off the smokes for 12 years? I thought if you'd been off them that long you wouldn't want to get back on the nicotine knowing how addictive it is."



I started vaping to encourage my partner to quit smoking but I became hooked on it very quickly. There are many reasons which may or may not include nicotine addiction. Health improvements due to weight loss which resulted from a greatly reduced craving for sweets are undeniable. A new hobby - very important for retirees like me. A more relaxed attitude - think I was becoming a grumpy old man, but those days are over. And some optimism about the future. As for nicotine itself, well, it isn't all bad. Many "poisons" are used in medicines, it's all a matter of dosage. Unfortunately, there is no published research concerning the amount of nico absorbed from vaping, either in absolute terms or relative to the rate from death sticks. And even that wouldn't be of much use unless there was also some validated standards covering the amount which constitutes a safe/effective dosage. There is, however, some published research indicating benefits of nicotine in the treatment of ADD and also in the prevention of alzheimer's disease. The last paper I read says the thrust of this research was shifting towards finding an effective delivery system for a controlled amount of nicotine. Meanwhile, as a potential candidate for alzheimers (given some family history) I am happy to take matters into my own hands. My dosage is about 6 ml per day of 12mg strength nicotine in a liqiud base consisting mainly of tobacco flavoured propylene glycol, atomized in a Kanger T3 vaping device. And loving it!
 
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