Menthol Drops Recipe for Menthol Lovers
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This thread has given me confidence and hope. I just ordered 2 oz of crystals from gumby96. Can't wait!
Just read through this entire thread, and got on the ball with ordering menthol crystals from mountain rose mentioned previously, as well as grabbing PG / Nicotine from Totally Wicked. I looked at most of the TW flavors, and finally put together that they label them loranne because loranne is where you can buy from. Much cheaper as well, with way more liquid to work with. So I've got some Vanilla and other flavors on the way.
All this, because I'm a Marlboro Smooth smoker (think menthol with an andy's mint taste) switching to vaping with an M702, and the menthol that revolvercig sells is god awful. Like... worse than trying to vape mouthwash haha. So I went in search of some menthol lovers and wound up here.
I actually had to buy a pack of cigs just to keep satisfied, and had to put the M702 down because the flavoring was horrid. I'm hoping this mix up can help out haha.
I'm actually really excited to start cutting, this kind of tinkering really jazzes me (I spent way too much time on airsoft guns at one point in my life haha, I think I ended upgrading and tinkering every single piece of one of the guns).
Ok, so all that to say -THANKS- haha, this has been great, and anyone that enjoys menthol smokes and tinkering I'm sure has learned a great deal from this. Definitely gave me the guts to order the supplies.
Now, I do have a question! Can one of you guys post a syringe pic?! I just cannot picture it in my head for the life of me, and its kinda throwing the instructions. I'd love to follow the recipe to a T the first few go rounds with cutting this stuff, but I honestly cannot get past this syringe, no matter how many times I reread.
This community is amazing, and I'm thoroughly impressed with all you tinkerers out there. Talk about pushing things along!
Will keep track of my recipes as I find them and post back here, can't wait!
Thanks!
-Ken
All this, because I'm a Marlboro Smooth smoker (think menthol with an andy's mint taste) switching to vaping with an M702, and the menthol that revolvercig sells is god awful. Like... worse than trying to vape mouthwash haha. So I went in search of some menthol lovers and wound up here.
I actually had to buy a pack of cigs just to keep satisfied, and had to put the M702 down because the flavoring was horrid. I'm hoping this mix up can help out haha.
I'm actually really excited to start cutting, this kind of tinkering really jazzes me (I spent way too much time on airsoft guns at one point in my life haha, I think I ended upgrading and tinkering every single piece of one of the guns).
Ok, so all that to say -THANKS- haha, this has been great, and anyone that enjoys menthol smokes and tinkering I'm sure has learned a great deal from this. Definitely gave me the guts to order the supplies.
Now, I do have a question! Can one of you guys post a syringe pic?! I just cannot picture it in my head for the life of me, and its kinda throwing the instructions. I'd love to follow the recipe to a T the first few go rounds with cutting this stuff, but I honestly cannot get past this syringe, no matter how many times I reread.
This community is amazing, and I'm thoroughly impressed with all you tinkerers out there. Talk about pushing things along!
Will keep track of my recipes as I find them and post back here, can't wait!
Thanks!
-Ken
I just received an order of menthol crystals from gumby96 on eBay. Ordered them Thursday, and they showed in the mail today.
Mixed some up with Everclear guessing at the ratios...seems to have worked. I have about 10ml menthol/Everclear in a leftover bottle of Dekang menthol.
I put roughly 10ml of 24 mg Tennessee Whisky VG based from wordupecig in another bottle and started adding drops...the Tennessee Whiskey was "ok" by itself but is MUCH better now with the menthol.
I think I ended up with about 2 drops per ml...I might add more even. Love that menthol!
Mixed some up with Everclear guessing at the ratios...seems to have worked. I have about 10ml menthol/Everclear in a leftover bottle of Dekang menthol.
I put roughly 10ml of 24 mg Tennessee Whisky VG based from wordupecig in another bottle and started adding drops...the Tennessee Whiskey was "ok" by itself but is MUCH better now with the menthol.
I think I ended up with about 2 drops per ml...I might add more even. Love that menthol!
Anyone here smokes zero nictoine juice? I've heard that about 4% of menthol gives a good throat hit without a taste of menthol. I want to go zero nicotine in the future.
I was a smoker, but I didn't smoke menthol. It wasn't just for me, but this thread might make me convert to menthol vaper. haha.
Thanks in advance.
I was a smoker, but I didn't smoke menthol. It wasn't just for me, but this thread might make me convert to menthol vaper. haha.
Thanks in advance.
Maybe we should start a vaping bath and body group 
Soaps, salves (healing and just fun too), lotions, bath bombs and fizzies, body scrubs.... etc LOL!
And yep, I make bread and real butter too, hehe
Sarah
Soaps, salves (healing and just fun too), lotions, bath bombs and fizzies, body scrubs.... etc
LOL!And yep, I make bread and real butter too, hehe
Sarah
Yes you can use it with a zero nic, I just made a 1000ml batch and used 5% (50ml) menthol concentrate and 1% TA (Tobacco Absolute) concentrate, my wife said it was perfect, tasted just like her misty menthols. I am not a menthol smoker, never was but it is actually nice every now and then.
Dan
Hey there. I just wanted to post for the member who said they were a Marlboro Smooth Menthol smoker: I also smoked those pretty often, and so far, I've found that the Smilin Menthol from Vapor4Life.com closely reminds me of the smooth's. Don't know what it is, but that's the first thing I thought of when I tried it. Have you had any more luck with menthol flavors?
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Are you sure its PGA? Menthol doesnt dissolve well in water at all and will have that cloudy look. The seperation sounds like the crystals dissolved in the alcohol and then seperated the water out. I'd decant one layer away and one shold be very strong and if the other layer doesnt, its likely water.
The crystals will dissolve in PG or VG with a little heat from a microwave or if put in a cup that has very hot water in it. If microwaved , no longer than 1 second per ml unless you want a real mess. 10ml of PG, 1/2tsp of crushed crystals heat for 5sec.
If you are still seeing a seperation, some crystals are wax coated. It may be the wax melting away.
The crystals will dissolve in PG or VG with a little heat from a microwave or if put in a cup that has very hot water in it. If microwaved , no longer than 1 second per ml unless you want a real mess. 10ml of PG, 1/2tsp of crushed crystals heat for 5sec.
If you are still seeing a seperation, some crystals are wax coated. It may be the wax melting away.
Ok, so its not true PGA.
75% alcohol 25% water.
If you had a graduated cylinder you could pour it back in and see if the bottom layer is 25% of the 7.5ml.
If so or near it, alcohols specific gravity is lighter than water. The top layer is most likely the alcohol and menthol with the bottom layer being water seperated from the Everclear due to it not being able to dissolve the menthol crystals.
You could use a dropper and get a drop off the bottom, wipe th dropper clean and finger taste it. It may have a touch of menthol as I think water will dissolve abt 1% menthol.
The top layer should finger test like a vicks cough drop if its the alcohol layer.
75% alcohol 25% water.
If you had a graduated cylinder you could pour it back in and see if the bottom layer is 25% of the 7.5ml.
If so or near it, alcohols specific gravity is lighter than water. The top layer is most likely the alcohol and menthol with the bottom layer being water seperated from the Everclear due to it not being able to dissolve the menthol crystals.
You could use a dropper and get a drop off the bottom, wipe th dropper clean and finger taste it. It may have a touch of menthol as I think water will dissolve abt 1% menthol.
The top layer should finger test like a vicks cough drop if its the alcohol layer.
If they're fully dissolved, it shouldn't be cloudy. Always comes out clear when I make it.
This is from the first post: Stir the mix and nuke for 5 seconds. DON'T nuke for more than 5 secs - if you're queasy about nuking (works fine for me) just sit the measuring cup in a bowl of hot water. You're goal is to completely dissolve all the menthol powder.
Edit - I saw someone thought the impurities in the PGA might cause it, if it's only 151 proof. The strongest grain alcohol allowed in CA is 75%, and that works fine, although I mix it with a little bit of PG, along with the menthol crystals. Never a problem.
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I'm wondering if you dont have a supersaturated solution.
You didnt measure the menthol crystals out.
I use 10ml of liquid and 1/2tsp of crushed crystals and it always works.
You used 7.5ml and then filled the remainder of the container with crystals.
Try adding a little more Everclear and see if the layer dissolves in. I think you have more menthol than the 7.5ml can hold.
My .02 worth.
You didnt measure the menthol crystals out.
I use 10ml of liquid and 1/2tsp of crushed crystals and it always works.
You used 7.5ml and then filled the remainder of the container with crystals.
Try adding a little more Everclear and see if the layer dissolves in. I think you have more menthol than the 7.5ml can hold.
My .02 worth.
Thanks for the help. As you stated earlier, I think the "oil" is just water. I turned the bottle on its side and dripped a drop into my mouth and it was STRONG!! It would have actually been pretty good if it wasnt bitter. After the menthol sensation subsided, I turned the bottle upside down so the "oil" would sit at the tip, and dripped another drop. This time it wasnt nearly as strong and just kinda bitter.
I just made a batch using my tired and true recipe I use with 151. 1/2tsp in 10ml 151 vodka. They asked for it to be in pure VG.
Hey......I see the liquid layer referred to even after cooled.
The only way to get rid of it was to add more VG and reheat. It appears that if to much crystal is used it goes beyond full saturated solution and the remaining menthol makes a 2nd layer of clear liquid? It finally did harden out after many hrs.
All I can say is if it forms, you have to much crystal for the liquid you are using.
VG doesnt hold nearly what 151 does.
I''d start with 1/4tsp ground/crushed and packed crystals per 10ml of liquid and go from there.
Hey......I see the liquid layer referred to even after cooled.
The only way to get rid of it was to add more VG and reheat. It appears that if to much crystal is used it goes beyond full saturated solution and the remaining menthol makes a 2nd layer of clear liquid? It finally did harden out after many hrs.
All I can say is if it forms, you have to much crystal for the liquid you are using.
VG doesnt hold nearly what 151 does.
I''d start with 1/4tsp ground/crushed and packed crystals per 10ml of liquid and go from there.
I've found that DIY menthol tends to get stronger with age so its wise to make it slightly weak and let it age for a couple days so the menthol flavor comes through at full intensity.
I know this because I made menthol juice with crystals and got the perfect menthol flavor I was looking for. Unfortunately after a few days the menthol taste became overpowering.
I know this because I made menthol juice with crystals and got the perfect menthol flavor I was looking for. Unfortunately after a few days the menthol taste became overpowering.
Hi all,
Read thru about half of this thread looking to see if menthol drops can be made without using alcohol of any type. Not seeing any posts about directly dissolving crystals in PG or PG/VG mix, I jumped to last page and found the below post by Vaporer. So, are we confirmed that these drops can be made sans alcohol of any type - just powdered crystals dissolved into PG or PG/VG mix? I did read that some had problems using all VG. And I do get my juices in mixed PG/VG instead of all PG but I certainly have no issue making the drops all PG if that is a better way to go. while I have some PG/VG 50/50 mix, I may just have to get some all PG for the drops.
T.I.A.
PS, Vaporer seems to be saying to make drops: 1/2 tsp powdered crystals to 10 ml PG. For direct crystals into juices I had read 1/4 tsp per10 ml of flavored-nic-JUICE. So I am guessing we want the concentration stronger for making the drops?
Read thru about half of this thread looking to see if menthol drops can be made without using alcohol of any type. Not seeing any posts about directly dissolving crystals in PG or PG/VG mix, I jumped to last page and found the below post by Vaporer. So, are we confirmed that these drops can be made sans alcohol of any type - just powdered crystals dissolved into PG or PG/VG mix? I did read that some had problems using all VG. And I do get my juices in mixed PG/VG instead of all PG but I certainly have no issue making the drops all PG if that is a better way to go. while I have some PG/VG 50/50 mix, I may just have to get some all PG for the drops.
T.I.A.
PS, Vaporer seems to be saying to make drops: 1/2 tsp powdered crystals to 10 ml PG. For direct crystals into juices I had read 1/4 tsp per10 ml of flavored-nic-JUICE. So I am guessing we want the concentration stronger for making the drops?
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Ok. lets clarify it all.
Alcohol will dissolve more menthol crystals than PG or VG.
In order of max concentration is Alcohol, PG, then VG.
So.........if you do the 1/2 tsp in VG you might have some layers form from 1/2 tsp adding it to VG. It supersaturates before the other 2 which leaves a menthol layer that wont dissolve. Just use whats below the solid layer that forms when cooled.
That leaves you with the empirical delemia, is max in VG enough, or do I want stronger per drop and need the better concentration of alcohol or PG?
Alcohol will dissolve more menthol crystals than PG or VG.
In order of max concentration is Alcohol, PG, then VG.
So.........if you do the 1/2 tsp in VG you might have some layers form from 1/2 tsp adding it to VG. It supersaturates before the other 2 which leaves a menthol layer that wont dissolve. Just use whats below the solid layer that forms when cooled.
That leaves you with the empirical delemia, is max in VG enough, or do I want stronger per drop and need the better concentration of alcohol or PG?
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