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I dont think there is such a thing as a protected 10440 battery, they are so small I dont think there is room for the protection system to be included. If anybody can prove me wrong I will consider a purchase 
Ludo just PM'd me and told me that the device will shut off after 11 seconds. So there is some type of protection feature they have put there which is good. You see I'm just trying to get answers here.
For Cow whatever to act so flippant about valid concerns, scares me. Obviously if they have built in an 11 second shut off, they are thinking and my concerns were valid. It is unfortunate people don't try and understand and discern things first.
I dont think there is such a thing as a protected 10440 battery, they are so small I dont think there is room for the protection system to be included. If anybody can prove me wrong I will consider a purchase
But with unprotected batteries you can have problems in chargers and fire hazzards. This is just the truth here. Maybe they ARE protected batteries. I just want to know.
I've been looking for 10440 batteries for a while (needed shipped to Poland cheap) and haven't seen protected.
As for the on/off switch, I don't really see a reasen for it - it would be just as easy to get switched on in a pocket as it is to press the button for more then 10 seconds. At least that's what my imagination led me to believe...
Now for the Ruyan attomizers - tried to find them and couldn't. Does anybody have a link?
EDIT: The 11sec cut-off... I think that's more for the sake of not heating the atty too much, so it doesn't burn out. But I guess that's rather to save the atomizers from the nasty users than the other way around...
As for the on/off switch, I don't really see a reasen for it - it would be just as easy to get switched on in a pocket as it is to press the button for more then 10 seconds. At least that's what my imagination led me to believe...
Now for the Ruyan attomizers - tried to find them and couldn't. Does anybody have a link?
EDIT: The 11sec cut-off... I think that's more for the sake of not heating the atty too much, so it doesn't burn out. But I guess that's rather to save the atomizers from the nasty users than the other way around...
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That is absolutely not true about an on/off switch to be switched on easily. Not true at all. Trust me I have a mod with protected batteries AND an on/off switch that does not slide over THAT easy at all. So please....
The Stick uses common "801" or "pen style" atomizers. There are other names for them too, but I'm not experienced enough with them to have a whole list.
Just so people understand about unprotected batteries. This is WHY I get so concerned about this stuff and want to learn about what I potentially purchase. Also I'm glad there is an 11 second safety feature there. That is important. I am so waiting for the right thing!
But here is some more important info and no, I don't have a link cow.
If the button does accidentally get depressed for any length of time, it will overdischarge the unprotected battery. When you go to put that same overdischarged, unprotected battery into a charger, it can (not will) cause a short inside the battery and a resulting explosion.
But here is some more important info and no, I don't have a link cow.
If the button does accidentally get depressed for any length of time, it will overdischarge the unprotected battery. When you go to put that same overdischarged, unprotected battery into a charger, it can (not will) cause a short inside the battery and a resulting explosion.
So it's hard to switch, than?
I wouldn't want that...
Just so you don't get me wrong - I'm not bashing your idea, I don't think it's stupid or anything. I just know I wouldn't be using it. It would either be to easy to switch, so there would be no protection, or to hard and it would be annoying.
But again, that's me. I'm simply not on that level of safety awareness. I don't think many people are, so try to understand others as well.
I'm a vegetarian, which isn't very popular over here, and I'd go crazy if I were to defend my life style all the time - I just accept their ignorance and go my own way.
Btw:
- What vegetarian dishes do you serve?
- That's no meat, right? Umm.. tuna!
Here is a direct link for 801 attys from Ruyan:
Matte black atomizer for DSE801 pen e-cig - Spare Parts - Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
Link for 10440 batteries from DX
DealExtreme: $4.32 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack
I do not think you can get protected in this type. I am sure if they were available DX would have them.
Matte black atomizer for DSE801 pen e-cig - Spare Parts - Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop
Link for 10440 batteries from DX
DealExtreme: $4.32 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack
I do not think you can get protected in this type. I am sure if they were available DX would have them.
I would assume, but could be dead wrong, that since the stick serves also as a charger that it in fact has the protectoin circuit in the stick. Otherwise the unprotected batteries would run to complete empty and never recharge and in addition, they would overcharge and catch fire/explode.
I'm sure Ludo can confirm.
I'm sure Ludo can confirm.
probably is correct since that is precisely how cell phones work the protection is in the circuit board not in the battery
Hey Lucky, I will grudgingly concede your point on the switch question, although the cutoff seems to address that issue, but I have to question your concern on the battery issue. I have 3 Sangean radios around the house that use this style of rechargeable battery. We have 5 cell phones, and countless other devices that use this style of rechargeable battery (the other devices, not the cell phones). I assume I am fairly typical of battery usage. I would think if there was a high risk of this happening we would have seen it before now.
I am not saying it could not happen, but are we looking for problems that are unlikely or don't exist?
I am not saying it could not happen, but are we looking for problems that are unlikely or don't exist?
Every video review of the Stick that I have seen has indicated that the button has positive engagement(do NOT translate as hard to push) and that it would be unlikely (do NOT translate as impossible) to engage while in your pocket.............
Yes, I'm glad he said they had the cut off. Ludo also told me that if we were to use any other batteries then it would void the warranty on these. They don't make these batteries they are using in protected at this point from what I understand. I was just looking at this device to possibly purchase once they got the 901 adapters that he said they were working on right now, which was cool, so then I started looking further and deeper into this and was concerned about no on/off switch, which he said it has the 11 second cut off, which is good, but I REFUSE to use unprotected batteries. PERIOD. I won't do it. Each to their own and their own feelings on it, but I will not. Sooooooo my search is still on for the right option. I sure thought these things were cute though!
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