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Don't know how plexiglass behaves on fire - but if it doesn't melt within 10 seconds, that would be the best option.

I was thinking about a cheap fish tank, but with see-through plastic coating on the outside - that would stop the shrapnel. But it's heavy and fragile, plexiglass idea seems better. Would need to have some kind of vent for the explosion not to brake it apart.


Wow.. this thread is starting to freak me out!:shock:
 

Cellmeister

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There Is Way Too Much Battery False Warnings & Scare Tactics Causing Paranoia Here WTF! I Have These 10440 Batts and Another 1/2 Dozen Or So Other Lithium, NiMh & NiCad Batts with 10 Different Chargers. I and Several Friends Have Been using & Recharging These For Daily For Years, Never 1 Incident! Thats Is Overnight & Unattended Charging! (U Make Your Own Decision How To Charge) As A Daily Ritual!!

I Know Hundreds Of People From Some of The Flashlight Forums That Do Not Have Any Issues With Rechargeable Batts! Unless Your A Frigin ..... And Do Something Stupid!

Some People Are Starting Way Too Much Bull About Batteries Blowing Up & Overheating With Atomizers! Enough Is A Nuff of This Crap, Please Go Join or Start An Exploding Battery Forum Or Something For Your Exploding Battery Crusade!

If You Charge Any Battery Correctly & With The Proper Charger You Will Not Have Any Issues!~ Incidents With Batteries Are Less Then 1%, Thats Including Known Defective & Recalled Batteries!

Go Janty Go! I Can't Wait For My Janty Sticks To Arrive!

~Keep Vapin~
 
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frogbmth

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Ok here's a chemistry lesson from your friendly local chemist. :)

Lithium-Ion cells are not at all like NiCas or NiMh cells. They contain a pressurised solvent based lithium liquid which is highly flammable. Inside the cell, a barrier prevents the pos and neg ends of the battery from contacting.

During the manufacturing process, small metallic particles remain in the solution and when the battery warms, they move around within the solution. This can cause them to damage the barrier and cause a short circuit. This overheats the cell, increases the pressure and the result is a leak or small explosion.

Manufacturing process have improved since all those laptop and cellphone batteries were catching fire and recalled, the risks are smaller but still there. In the rare event of an incident, flammable materials would need to be close by in order for the situation to escalate. Many cells contain protection to prevent any incident, and chargers have circuits to improve safety.

The chance of an incident are very small. However I have been through the terrible experience of losing everything I own in a house fire so yes, I am fanatical about fire safety. Most people get away with taking no precautions but a few do not. I do not want anybody to have to go through what I have been through, call that scare tactics and paranoia if you wish. Risk isnt just about the chances of an incident, it is about the resulting damage that very rare incident can cause.

Andy
 

arv

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There Is Way Too Much Battery False Warnings & Scare Tactics Causing Paranoia Here WTF! I Have These 10440 Batts and Another 1/2 Dozen Or So Other Lithium, NiMh & NiCad Batts with 10 Different Chargers. I and Several Friends Have Been using & Recharging These For Daily For Years, Never 1 Incident! Thats Is Overnight & Unattended Charging! (U Make Your Own Decision How To Charge) As A Daily Ritual!!

I Know Hundreds Of People From Some of The Flashlight Forums That Do Not Have Any Issues With Rechargeable Batts! Unless Your A Frigin ..... And Do Something Stupid!

Some People Are Starting Way Too Much Bull About Batteries Blowing Up & Overheating With Atomizers! Enough Is A Nuff of This Crap, Please Go Join or Start An Exploding Battery Forum Or Something For Your Exploding Battery Crusade!

If You Charge Any Battery Correctly & With The Proper Charger You Will Not Have Any Issues!~ Incidents With Batteries Are Less Then 1%, Thats Including Known Defective & Recalled Batteries!

Go Janty Go! I Can't Wait For My Janty Sticks To Arrive!

~Keep Vapin~
Why do you start almost every word with a capital letter?
It really bothers me when I read it, can't concentrate on what you mean.
No offence intended - just letting you know it makes it harder for me to understand you.
 

surbitonPete

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The janty stick is a great improvement on the e-cig.........but I think the janty stick is incredibly expensive seeing as it's an electronic product being made in china...it really is a very simple piece of electronics when you compare it to any other thing you can buy. I don't think I even paid that much for my computer monitor and there is no comparison with the work or the electronics that go into the two products.
 

Kelemvor

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if you don't take at least the usage hints of the manufacturer, no protection circuit will help you, no matter what batteries you use. i got a kitchen fire with NiCd cells in my youth, a little firework in my sisters car, charging some batterypacks on the cars battery, i learned how to handle batteries, no matter which type.

but thats not the point of the hysteria that took and take place here about unprotected batterie usage in the jantystick for example.

too few people read those little letters manufacterers deliver with their products, they are called documentation, safety instructions or else. they are a little bit boring sometimes, but i really suggest to everyone buying any electronic device :

Read it !
 

Kate51

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Ok here's a chemistry lesson from your friendly local chemist. :)

Lithium-Ion cells are not at all like NiCas or NiMh cells. They contain a pressurised solvent based lithium liquid which is highly flammable. Inside the cell, a barrier prevents the pos and neg ends of the battery from contacting.

During the manufacturing process, small metallic particles remain in the solution and when the battery warms, they move around within the solution. This can cause them to damage the barrier and cause a short circuit. This overheats the cell, increases the pressure and the result is a leak or small explosion.

Manufacturing process have improved since all those laptop and cellphone batteries were catching fire and recalled, the risks are smaller but still there. In the rare event of an incident, flammable materials would need to be close by in order for the situation to escalate. Many cells contain protection to prevent any incident, and chargers have circuits to improve safety.

The chance of an incident are very small. However I have been through the terrible experience of losing everything I own in a house fire so yes, I am fanatical about fire safety. Most people get away with taking no precautions but a few do not. I do not want anybody to have to go through what I have been through, call that scare tactics and paranoia if you wish. Risk isnt just about the chances of an incident, it is about the resulting damage that very rare incident can cause.

Andy

If you ever had a Nikon D-70 burn up, you will listen to this guy! Tis True.
 

arv

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While waiting for our sticks to arrive, can I ask a dumb question?

I've never used a manual before--but after reading Ludo's online instructions for the thing I am a tad confused.

When you push on the button to vape, do you just click it to activate, or do you have to hold the button down while vaping?


(Told ya it was a dumb question...) :|
 

LuckySevens4U

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Ok here's a chemistry lesson from your friendly local chemist. :)

Lithium-Ion cells are not at all like NiCas or NiMh cells. They contain a pressurised solvent based lithium liquid which is highly flammable. Inside the cell, a barrier prevents the pos and neg ends of the battery from contacting.

During the manufacturing process, small metallic particles remain in the solution and when the battery warms, they move around within the solution. This can cause them to damage the barrier and cause a short circuit. This overheats the cell, increases the pressure and the result is a leak or small explosion.

Manufacturing process have improved since all those laptop and cellphone batteries were catching fire and recalled, the risks are smaller but still there. In the rare event of an incident, flammable materials would need to be close by in order for the situation to escalate. Many cells contain protection to prevent any incident, and chargers have circuits to improve safety.

The chance of an incident are very small. However I have been through the terrible experience of losing everything I own in a house fire so yes, I am fanatical about fire safety. Most people get away with taking no precautions but a few do not. I do not want anybody to have to go through what I have been through, call that scare tactics and paranoia if you wish. Risk isnt just about the chances of an incident, it is about the resulting damage that very rare incident can cause.

Andy

Bravo, Andy. I completely agree with you. :thumb:
 
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