Message to e-Liquid vendors: This is what we want from you!

[Tezcatlipoca]

I have read about broken bottles but it has never happened to me. I have had successful shipping of glass bottles from The Plume Room, Halo, House Of Liquid, Vermillion River and Ahlusion. If shipping a "poison," extreme caution should to be taken irrespective of the bottle material. Glass can break, platics can be punctured or compressed and subsequently opened. All glass bottles that I have recieved were shipped immaculately--the bottles were shipped as if they were, well, glass. As a side note, I have received many plastic bottles that opened, from one cause or another, several times.

Yeah, all of the glass bottles I've gotten from Want2Vape and Halo, as well as the empties I've ordered from elsewhere are really thick glass that would require considerable force and abuse (not saying USPS isn't capable of that) to break. I don't think it would take as much to mash a plastic bottle, leaving you with a bag o' juice.

Nicotine is still a poison in large doses and many places require childproof containers etc.

Maybe if childproof caps are required in some places, those vendors could have an option to include some of the non-childproof variety with the order that would work on the same bottle. Free would be great, but I'd pay extra at this point, within reason.

 

[Neya]

I have no problem with the age verification every time I visit your site. But do not want to age verify for every new product I look at during a single browsing session. It's happened at one (at least) retailers site, not fun.

 

[stv4SC]

Hmmm I've never had any of these Glass bottles with droppers that you speak of. Sounds cool.

Mountain Oaks Vapors has a tobacco sampler w/ glass bottles and dropper. Good juice too. Halo has them in 30ml size. Yummy Belgian Cocoa...

 

[SpringzVz]

Burgundy's Bliss: A tasty little juice with large plumes of vapor smelling of rich mahogany. This juice is a big deal with bits of real panther in it so you know it's good.

In other words we screwed up but it smells nice....

 

[Darthvong]

Mountain Oaks Vapors has a tobacco sampler w/ glass bottles and dropper. Good juice too. Halo has them in 30ml size. Yummy Belgian Cocoa...

Got my first glass bottle today from Vapor Beast. I actually like it better. Now I want to order some emptys and transfer all my juice to those. LOL

 

[JaneinMesa]

I'm NOT throwing anymore $$$ away on juice that I don't like! Vendors NEED find a way to send sample packets in an envelope or something. If you don't have a storefront someone can go to and try flavors, you'd better send free samples.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'm NOT throwing anymore $$$ away on juice that I don't like! Vendors NEED find a way to send sample packets in an envelope or something. If you don't have a storefront someone can go to and try flavors, you'd better send free samples.

I remember those feelings! That was when I became a tobacco vaper!

 

[hubblebubble]

We should try and compile a list of info that should be the standard on all juice bottles. The PG/VG ratio, nic. level, bottle size, flavor, date made, exp. date, company name, all absolutely NEED to be on the bottle. If its a 3mL bottle, you may not be able to fit a lot of info, but figure it out, make something that works. I can't stand getting a juice that(one I got 2 days ago) has a round red garage sale sticker on it with an abbreviated flavor name and a number on it(nic level? who knows). If I don't remember, how do I know what it is. If its given to someone else, how do they know?

I just received my order from Better Vapes today, which has the greatest packaging and labels I have seen yet. Every label includes: company name, company website, e-liquid flavor, bottle size, vg/pg ratio, caffeine added yes or no, sweetener added yes or no, nicotine content, born on date, and "Contains nicotine. Keep away from children." (I don't have kids, but what if I accidentally drop or lose a bottle somewhere?) The only thing missing is whether the liquid is regular or double flavor. However, I only ordered regular flavor, so if they make note of double flavor on the label I wouldn't know. Each bottle was in an small individual zipper-sealed baggie and then wrapped in bubble wrap. They use the easy-to-squeeze plastic bottles and the label doesn't go all the way round so I can see how much liquid is in the bottle. (On the 6ml bottles I got, anyway.)

VERY happy with my order!

 

[just one day]

Here is an idea, Pre Steeped. Yea no waiting !
Some times I feel like a well trained dog. You know , Sit ! ok , then you put that tantalizing bit of begging bacon on his snout and he has to wait until you say Go ! and he eats it. Well I just want to eat it right away!
Vender options to purchase pre steeped juice, maybe at a slight premium.
" yea we got it fresh made.... $xx.xx "
" steeped for one week under controled conditions .. $xx.xx + 1
"optimum steep time ... $xx.xx + 2" etc.

 

[just one day]

Just some thoughts on the above.
I feel we are takling about something that changes over time just like good wine and this could be a good selling point.
The maker of a juice gathers the best ingredients and combines them to give you that vapeing perfection.
Then it "cellars" them , under controlled conditions, temp., humidity etc. until they reach the peak of perfection and then they are offered to the public for imediate consumption if you wish or further ageing.
I buy young wines and cellar them with anticipation, but I also like to go out and have a wine NOW that is at it's peak.
" Hey man have you tasted that xx juice jan 12 ? it's just awsome ! "

 

[Mr.Mann]

Here is an idea, Pre Steeped. Yea no waiting !
Some times I feel like a well trained dog. You know , Sit ! ok , then you put that tantalizing bit of begging bacon on his snout and he has to wait until you say Go ! and he eats it. Well I just want to eat it right away!
Vender options to purchase pre steeped juice, maybe at a slight premium.
" yea we got it fresh made.... $xx.xx "
" steeped for one week under controled conditions .. $xx.xx + 1
"optimum steep time ... $xx.xx + 2" etc.

Vaperite: Pre-Steeped Juice Not much there, but maybe at some point...

 

[oxygen thief]

What everyone else has said but the first is my pet peeve.

1. No flavor description or a description like, a day at the beach!
I won't buy your juice.
2. Have how many stars by the picture and how many reviews instead of me clicking on the picture to see no reviews or description.
3. "Secret PG/VG blend."
4. Like was just said, steep? How long? Why? etc
If a vendor sells $30 in e liquid and doesn't give a 3ml sample they should rethink that. Those 3 ml's may be the ticket.
5. If you sell 30-35 ml for $23, keep it.
6. If you re-brand Dekang, shame on you if that's your little secret.
7. If you say it tastes like natural vanilla ice creme but it smells like kerosene, either have more people sample it or find a new line of work.
8. Personally for the short time I've been vaping, I have a big collection of juice. Most are horrible despite amazing descriptions otherwise. Customers need dirt cheap samples so they can save $10. If they like it they'll but it and enjoy it. If they have to spend more money and don't like it, both sides lose.

Other than bad tasting e liquid(to me)I've been impressed with the vendors I've used. But if vendors can get samples in our hands that would be great. One more, I don't want a sample pack that any vendor puts together. The temptation to put one or two winners and four dogs in those packs is assumed.

 

[just one day]

Yes Mr. Mann thats the idea I was talking about .

 

[Mr.Mann]

The temptation to put one or two winners and four dogs in those packs is assumed.

Very funny.

 

[AlmityPunx]

ive ordered from a few vendors now and from my experience...

VapeDudes bottles come with:
nic levels
pg/vg ratio
double flavor
bottle size
name of juice (with picture from site)
"keep away from children"
ya the label takes up the whole 10ml side but to see how much juice i just turn it horizontal and gague from that.
always a freebie... one time it was a juice, the other time it was my FAVORITE drip tip!

RAWRvapor labels have:
pg/vg ratio
nic level
born / expires
company name
warning
flavor name
menthol level
bottle size
(missing the double flavor info but its there )
always thank you for your business in the recipt
always free sample

ALTcig
just has name and a number sticker with nic level on back
they always do have a hand written thank you and free sample though


i would like to see a lot of the suggestions presented here but we have to remember that as far as bottles and things like that would add to the cost... we have to be realistic in how much we WANT vs how much we want to PAY...

 

[Vinv]

Juice color is important! Vaping green stuff is awesome. seriously.

also , Samples are mostly coming in regular bottles , If there would be "sampler juice" in those small sealed condom-like wrapping with some 5ml inside ( like suger in small sealed tea bags ) , could be cheaper and could allow more sellers to give away those with reduced lose I imagine ...

 

[zoiDman]

Juice color is important! Vaping green stuff is awesome. seriously.
...

I guess it is Kinda Fun to have Colored e-Liquids.

But since the Health Risks of Vaping Colorants has not be Established, I would rather they were Left Out.

 

[DaveP]

I ordered a sampler pack from Halo for $24.95. It had six 7ml bottles in a nice can with a metal top kind of like you'd get gift store candy in. Inside were the bottles sitting in neatly punched holes in a circular foam insert. I thought it was a good packaging scheme and the can makes a good place to store cartos or atomizers and various juices later. That was 42ml of assorted tobacco flavored juices for $24.95. That's in the range I would have paid for that amount of juice from most vendors and they did it up in style.

Kudos to Halo!

 

[cags]

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ya the label takes up the whole 10ml side but to see how much juice i just turn it horizontal and gague from that.
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tipping the bottle sideways tells me nothing, I still can't tell how much is left. but maybe that is me

I know it's annoying to buy 15 bottles of liquid and you end up only liking one, but I really don't think we can blame vendors for that. liquids that get raves often taste like poo to me..

 

[Mr.Mann]

tipping the bottle sideways tells me nothing, I still can't tell how much is left. but maybe that is me

I know it's annoying to buy 15 bottles of liquid and you end up only liking one, but I really don't think we can blame vendors for that. liquids that get raves often taste like poo to me..

I think this is why it is imperative for us to know what brand of flavors they are using. If we are able to crosss-reference our previous dislikes and connect them to certain flavorings from certain brands, then we may not have to travel down that road twice. That would also free up our sense of adventure if we see a similar flavor that we previously disliked, but are able to see that the vendor does not use a a certain brand of flavoring. If you hate Perfumers Apprentcice, but don't know it, you will inevitably not know why certain separate vendors are both "creating" flavors that turn you off in the same way.