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Tim...catalytic converters have an aluminum oxide substrate coated with several types of platinum metals and maybe cerium oxide or Zirconium oxide. But...even if the substrate is fine enough they can run up to a grand or more now. Dont know what I was thinking.
Yes, nicotime:
Thanks for the details. I know what you were thinking: "How can we make a better atty?" I believe this is a worthy goal. I'm interested in the silica fiber. Is this a better design than nickel foam?
ECF rocks! Timmah!
Thanks for the details. I know what you were thinking: "How can we make a better atty?" I believe this is a worthy goal. I'm interested in the silica fiber. Is this a better design than nickel foam?
ECF rocks! Timmah!
Depends on the design Tim...for instance, the 510 atty uses both. NF wouldn't work too good alone as a wick IMO.
I appreciate your opinion, nicotime, and humility comes highly recommended, AFAIK. Further, thank you for attending to this particular design point.
I see this same thing in my BE103 atty. At the time I reverse engineered my atty, I wondered what fibers ran under the bridge that goes over the heater coil (presumably Ni-chrome wire coil) AND that ran through the coil itself. Not having firm data, what else would it be but silica fiber, a.k.a. "fiber glass"?
It makes sense to me: The nickel foam has a certain liquid volume adsorption capacity proportional to its porosity, and the embedded silica fibers provide a capillary action path for fluid flow from the cartridge reservoir polyester batting adsorbent wad that holds about an ml or so of liquid.
I inhale the nicotine laced flavored propylene glycol-glycerin vapor sans trace metals that races into my bloodstream to my large brain, and it sharpens my concentration powers whereby I can focus on the inner workings of the very mechanism that heightens my mind, and improves my ability to translate into English from my native Timmah! Awesome! (Well, sort of...)
I see this same thing in my BE103 atty. At the time I reverse engineered my atty, I wondered what fibers ran under the bridge that goes over the heater coil (presumably Ni-chrome wire coil) AND that ran through the coil itself. Not having firm data, what else would it be but silica fiber, a.k.a. "fiber glass"?
It makes sense to me: The nickel foam has a certain liquid volume adsorption capacity proportional to its porosity, and the embedded silica fibers provide a capillary action path for fluid flow from the cartridge reservoir polyester batting adsorbent wad that holds about an ml or so of liquid.
I inhale the nicotine laced flavored propylene glycol-glycerin vapor sans trace metals that races into my bloodstream to my large brain, and it sharpens my concentration powers whereby I can focus on the inner workings of the very mechanism that heightens my mind, and improves my ability to translate into English from my native Timmah! Awesome! (Well, sort of...)
I appreciate your opinion, nicotime, and humility comes highly recommended, AFAIK. Further, thank you for attending to this particular design point.
I see this same thing in my BE103 atty. At the time I reverse engineered my atty, I wondered what fibers ran under the bridge that goes over the heater coil (presumably Ni-chrome wire coil) AND that ran through the coil itself. Not having firm data, what else would it be but silica fiber, a.k.a. "fiber glass"?
It makes sense to me: The nickel foam has a certain liquid volume adsorption capacity proportional to its porosity, and the embedded silica fibers provide a capillary action path for fluid flow from the cartridge reservoir polyester batting adsorbent wad that holds about an ml or so of liquid.
I inhale the nicotine laced flavored propylene glycol-glycerin vapor sans trace metals that races into my bloodstream to my large brain, and it sharpens my concentration powers whereby I can focus on the inner workings of the very mechanism that heightens my mind, and improves my ability to translate into English from my native Timmah! Awesome! (Well, sort of...)
Not having firm data, what else would it be but silica fiber, a.k.a. "fiber glass"?
Don't make the same mistake I made. I ordered fiberglass rope instead of silica rope from mcmaster.com. It tasted like crap. I don't have any silica rope yet so I hope there is some difference. Would you like to buy 12"s of fiberglass ?
I inhale the nicotine laced flavored propylene glycol-glycerin vapor sans trace metals that races into my bloodstream to my large brain, and it sharpens my concentration powers whereby I can focus on the inner workings of the very mechanism that heightens my mind, and improves my ability to translate into English from my native Timmah! Awesome! (Well, sort of...)
Funny !
Yes, thank you. NOT fiberglass rather "silica rope" - I understand. I don't pretend to know the exact compositions of materials and I trust reports from experience, so that's fine. But I would confirm by my own test, of course, as well.
Thanks for the fiberglass offer, but no. And thanks for appreciating my humor.
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I ordered fiberglass rope by mistake as well. Now I have silica rope - 2 very different things. I wonder if we could substitute strips of pipe screen (brass or stainless) for the nickel mesh? Pipe screens are cheap and readily available. I plan to try this but currently I only have brass screens.
Hey KYFlyer67:
First off and on the side, if yours has anything to do with jelly, I have to wonder:
a) Does the pain threshold in position 67 enhance?
b) How lucky can you get?
Meanwhile, back to erstwhile quasi-scientists not getting any...
Fiber glass rope is not pure glass, I would imagine, whereas "silica" would designate pure SiO2, I would think - silly materials people... Is it so difficult to get a straight answer anymore? ("Lubnlau! Timmah!" Re: "Living the lie!")
Isn't a function of porosity? It's nickle foam. "Mesh" though has several meanings, the mesh number is an expression of porosity, the relative surface area per unit volume - the goal being more surface area, higher porosity to facilitate vaporization, eh?
But what are the vaporization parameters? I wonder if your pipe "screens" (wire mesh materials used in smoking pipes) at low porosity (low surface area) next to metal foam can work in the electronic lithium battery powered hand held glycol vaporization human drug delivery system.
Stay tuned for the next installment of... (music)
Timmah!
First off and on the side, if yours has anything to do with jelly, I have to wonder:
a) Does the pain threshold in position 67 enhance?
b) How lucky can you get?
Meanwhile, back to erstwhile quasi-scientists not getting any...
Fiber glass rope is not pure glass, I would imagine, whereas "silica" would designate pure SiO2, I would think - silly materials people... Is it so difficult to get a straight answer anymore? ("Lubnlau! Timmah!" Re: "Living the lie!")
Isn't a function of porosity? It's nickle foam. "Mesh" though has several meanings, the mesh number is an expression of porosity, the relative surface area per unit volume - the goal being more surface area, higher porosity to facilitate vaporization, eh?
But what are the vaporization parameters? I wonder if your pipe "screens" (wire mesh materials used in smoking pipes) at low porosity (low surface area) next to metal foam can work in the electronic lithium battery powered hand held glycol vaporization human drug delivery system.
Stay tuned for the next installment of... (music)
Timmah!
I work at Universal wire cloth co. We actually supply mcmaster car their mesh. I'm the manager for the weaving dept. We only weave down to a creartin size. About a 1/4 opening in mesh. However I will look into this for you. I don't think we have any here but I'm pretty sure I can get my hands on some.
Is anbody sure on nickel content? Usually it is a alloy of some kind when I've dealt with nickel. And how much would you need?
I'm gonna tear apart a atty and see what is what. Then I'll see what we have in house. I'll post results.
Is anbody sure on nickel content? Usually it is a alloy of some kind when I've dealt with nickel. And how much would you need?
I'm gonna tear apart a atty and see what is what. Then I'll see what we have in house. I'll post results.
I'm not sure what you mean by "1/4 opening", but it needs to be very fine material with very small openings. Here's what the pipe screens look like: Amazon.com: 100 Pc 3/4" Brass Tobacco Vaporizer & Pipe Screen Screens: Kitchen & . If you have something like that made of a nickel alloy, it might be just the ticket. One atomizer would probably use a square inch or less, so it wouldn't take much to make a bunch of atomizers.
Ok I took apart a atty. The stuff your calling mesh is definatly not mesh. Mesh is a woven material and has an exact square or rectangle pattern. This stuff has nooo pattern. It looks like steel wool compressed.
That said I think I can find you something that will work. Maybe even that exact stuff. If not something close. Maybe better. I'm working all weekend but no one else is and I'll never locate this without help.( my work has a huge inventory) PM me Monday to remind me to look around. I'll tell them your a potential customer and try and get some free shipping out of them.
Also I'm not sure that it's nickel. But I don't see why stainless steel won't work. 304 ss is a steel nickel alloy. 316 has more nickel. As the numbers go up so does nickel content and price.
That said I think I can find you something that will work. Maybe even that exact stuff. If not something close. Maybe better. I'm working all weekend but no one else is and I'll never locate this without help.( my work has a huge inventory) PM me Monday to remind me to look around. I'll tell them your a potential customer and try and get some free shipping out of them.
Also I'm not sure that it's nickel. But I don't see why stainless steel won't work. 304 ss is a steel nickel alloy. 316 has more nickel. As the numbers go up so does nickel content and price.
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