Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

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"A Wisconsin man is accused of running a 10-man operation that manufactured thousands of counterfeit vaping cartridges loaded with THC oil every day for almost two years, authorities said."

Wisconsin man accused in illegal THC vaping cartridge scheme

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His Instagram page is down/deleted,, but his Facebook page is still up. Noticed he was part of a wine tasting thing when he was 18. Not much on the page,, a lot of realestate stuff
 
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This just in:
"A Wisconsin man is accused of running a 10-man operation that manufactured thousands of counterfeit vaping cartridges loaded with THC oil every day for almost two years, authorities said."

Wisconsin man accused in illegal THC vaping cartridge scheme

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ETA: Leading Oregon Cannabis Extractor Pulls Line of Vape Products Off Its Website as Health Questions Swirl

I'm happy to see the DEA seeming to lock on to group making cartridges relatively quickly (although I guess they could have been investigating for a long time but recent events sped things up). It makes fa more sense for Durbin or any other politician to be calling for DEA action rather than the FDA.
 

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Would a PO box in a neighboring state work for you?

Sucks for smokers wanting to switch but we'll be alright with a little effort.

Thanks Mowgli. I actually gave up vaping for a number of years (not to return to cigs though!) because when you live rurally and there aren't vaping stores every other block, but 80 miles away R/T, I just didn't want to bother. I know there are a number of kind souls here who would order for me, and ship it to me, but that just added so much expense to vaping for me, the way postage is nowadays. ;)

I solved the problem a while back when I decided to start vaping a little again but I am totally unaware of pretty much *everything* out there now, as so much has changed in the years gone by. I have no idea what the companies are, what the flavors are, or anything else. But thank goodness, I'm NOT THAT PICKY, and can pretty much vape anything as long as it has some nicotine, so mostly unflavored is fine with me now. :)

BUt yes, it does suck in states that have large rural populations and tasty eliquid is not readily obtainable in a storefront. They are mostly dependent on "convenience store vaping" and some of the tobacco superstores have Juul and stuff like that.
 

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I have to say I have some youngster neighbors who are 20-somethings and I don't think they know much at all about "what they are vaping" which worries me more now. They seem like smart kids but like many in that age group they engage in risky behaviors because you know, you're gonna live forever when you're 20. ;)

Not bashing them at all, I was certainly not completely judicious in everything i did when I was 20 and I am happy to be alive and in one piece now. :) Or, relatively in one piece, since I'm kinda an oldster at this point.
 

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Dear Concerned Citizen,

Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding the ban I have ordered on flavored nicotine vaping products. I truly appreciate hearing from Michiganders from across the state and the opportunity to respond.

On Wednesday, September 11, the Trump administration announced that they were following in Michigan's footsteps to ban flavored e-cigarettes. I'm glad this administration is doing the right thing to protect our kids and our overall public health. This is a bold step that will keep our kids healthy and safe from the harmful effects of vaping. I'm proud that Michigan has been a leader on this issue, and I'm ready to continue working to protect our kids and our public health.

State agencies may develop and implement emergency rules whenever there is an emergency that endangers public health, safety, or welfare. (MCL 24.248.) After Michigan's Chief Medical Executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, confirmed that youth vaping constitutes a public health emergency, I ordered the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) to issue emergency rules to ban the sale of flavored nicotine vaping products in retail stores and online and ban misleading marketing of vaping products, including the use of terms like "clean," "safe," and "healthy" that perpetuate beliefs that these products are harmless. I have also ordered the Michigan Department of Transportation to enforce an existing statute to prohibit the advertisement of vapor products on billboards. These bold steps will finally put an end to these irresponsible and deceptive practices and protect Michiganders' public health.

We have seen an explosive increase in the number of Michigan kids exposed to vaping products. From 2017 to 2018, e-cigarette use spiked 78% among high school students and 48% among middle school students. These products can contain harmful chemicals that put our kids' health at risk. As governor and a parent, my number one priority is keeping our kids safe. Right now, companies are selling vaping products that use candy flavors to hook children on nicotine and using misleading claims to promote the belief that these products are safe. Nearly 90% of smokers start using nicotine before the age of 18 and 81% of youth e-cigarette users start with a flavored product. This makes the substantial surge of youth using flavored nicotine vape products a preventable public health crisis.

MDHHS will be taking a number of actions to make sure people understand how to comply. There is a website with additional information, which you can find at www.michigan.gov/ecigarettes <MDHHS e-cigarette Information> . Also, the MDHHS tobacco section has created a retailers' packet that includes FAQ's about compliance with the emergency rules. Along with local health departments, they plan to conduct regional meetings with retailers to answer questions about the emergency rules.

In June of this year, I made it known that recent legislation put forth by the legislature did not go far enough to protect Michigan's kids from nicotine addiction. I was clear that the marketing, packaging, and taste of e-cigarettes amounted to a bait-and-switch engineered to create new nicotine addicts. Our kids deserve leaders who are going to fight to protect them, and it's my responsibility to ensure that these dangerous marketing tactics are put to an end.

Again, thank you for taking the time to write. On January 1, 2019, I took an oath to serve the state of Michigan, and I am committed to building bridges from state government to real Michiganders. Please do not hesitate to contact my office at (517) 335-7858, should you have any questions or concerns.

Sincerely,
Gretchen Whitmer
Governor of Michigan
(517) 335-7858
 

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OMG, I can hear it now. "See, through this ban, we have proven that vaping is a pathway to cigarettes."

I f'ing called it.

Seeking relief from nicotine addiction, some e-cigarette users turn to cigarettes - CNN

The back-to-smoke trend flies in the face of the e-cig industry's most insistent PR pitch: Vaping helps people quit smoking cigarettes. In fact, San Francisco-based Juul Labs, which commands 75% of the e-cig market, says in its mission statement that the company aims to eliminate cigarettes by giving adult smokers "the tools to reduce or eliminate their consumption entirely."
 
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Media hit-piece.
He should stay with the Juul. Or even use other NRTs.

And it says right in there that he started with cigs first.
Grrr.

Guys, stories like this are first indicators that we are right. Disregard the "hit-piece" sections on focus on outcomes. The outcome being "more people are smoking or are going to start."
 
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