Michigan Gov Whitmer releases vaping ban rules...

[The Rebel]

Whitmer releases emergency rules for flavored vaping ban effective immediately

 

[The Rebel]

Link to the actual rules...

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...-_signed_by_Gov-Director_9.18.19_666139_7.pdf

 

[Don29palms]

The stupidest thing about this garbage is that because kids are breaking the law they are banning something. When are they going to ban all tobacco and alcohol? Kids abuse those. When are they going to ban cars?

 

[Horselady154]

"Retailers and resellers have 14 days to comply with the rules."

Wow. I feel sorry for the vape shops.

 

[Riplea]

"Retailers and resellers have 14 days to comply with the rules."

Wow. I feel sorry for the vape shops.

Me too, seems like it should be illegal to even implement a ban with a two week notice. This type of power needs to be taken away from Governors.

 

[Horselady154]

Me too, seems like it should be illegal to even implement a ban with a two week notice. This type of power needs to be taken away from Governors.

Our government, at all levels, we have allowed to come to believe they are our masters. We allowed it. Even slept while they did it. Some even encouraged/applauded it. Now it's time to reap what was sown, I guess.

 

[Baditude]

I'm a vaper. Not a criminal.

Michigan's e-cigarette ban comes with harsh penalties — potentially years in prison for violators

 

[AttyPops]

Link to the actual rules...

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...-_signed_by_Gov-Director_9.18.19_666139_7.pdf

Includes on online ban for flavored products excluding tobacco flavors (Rule 5).
But so far I don't see unflavored addressed.

 

[Horselady154]

I'm a vaper. Not a criminal.

Michigan's e-cigarette ban comes with harsh penalties — potentially years in prison for violators

Not in Michigan, it sounds.

 

[3chidna]

Absolutely terrible. Sorry to the Michigan and New York residents. You deserve better

 

[ruet]

Me too, seems like it should be illegal to even implement a ban with a two week notice. This type of power needs to be taken away from Governors.

Of my concerns is that they are allowed to dictate penalties without them first going through the legislative process. How is this possible?

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

The stupidest thing about this garbage is that because kids are breaking the law they are banning something. When are they going to ban all tobacco and alcohol? Kids abuse those. When are they going to ban cars?

This is worse than that by far. In this case, kids break laws, and LAW ABIDING ADULTS get punished. Kid speed through a school zone. You get the ticket. Kid gets drunk, you go to rehab.

 

[The Rebel]

Don't feel sorry. We're used to being crapped on by a long history of moronic elected officials (see Snyder, Granholm, Engler, Blanchard..etc.) We just go to the one of our lakes, drink craft beer, and try to forget.

Absolutely terrible. Sorry to the Michigan and New York residents. You deserve better

 

[Tig7]

I wonder if a person ordered food flavoring concentrate from a non-e-cig web site if it would be delivered to an address in the state.

 

[Horselady154]

Flavorings were around long before e-cigs. They are used in making candy and all kinds of things.

 

[Baditude]

Includes on online ban for flavored products excluding tobacco flavors (Rule 5).
But so far I don't see unflavored addressed.

How many vapers like vaping unflavored? Not me.

Once the government learns about "flavor shots", they'll go nuts and ban unflavored, too. Count on it, especially if kids use them.

 

[icepickmaker84]

Damn! The only 2 vape shops I frequent are right across the state line in Michigan.

 

[AttyPops]

Once the government learns about "flavor shots", they'll go nuts and ban unflavored, too. Count on it, especially if kids use them.

Yeah, that will be next, and will complete BT's lock on the market, since internet nic won't be available then either.

They've already mentioned CLOSED POD SYSTEMS that are theoretically "tamper proof" due to the THC problems. Maybe read that again if you need to. Now BT would just LOVE that. Further, I doubt that there's really any such thing as a non-refillable closed system, sans chips, but if one exists, BT will find/"invent" it.

 

[mightymen]

Yeah, that will be next, and will complete BT's lock on the market, since internet nic won't be available then either.

They've already mentioned CLOSED POD SYSTEMS that are theoretically "tamper proof" due to the THC problems. Maybe read that again if you need to. Now BT would just LOVE that. Further, I doubt that there's really any such thing as a non-refillable closed system, but if one exists, BT will find/"invent" it.

I own a drill!

 

[AttyPops]

Damn! The only 2 vape shops I frequent are right across the state line in Michigan.

IDK if that regulation excludes them shipping OUT to another state.

But regardless, unless most of their business is outside of MI, they're stuck with tobacco flavor, and come May, IDK.....

I've stated my opinions and predictions in several threads.

I own a drill!

They had one before that they were messing with that "controlled the quality" by having an embedded chip that COUNTED the puffs, and quit after a bit so that "quality was maintained".