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Pyrate

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First off- A Reality Show about people quitting Smoking? Seriously?
Whats so interesting and dramatic about that? Its not like they are ....../.... addicts or Alcoholics.
The industry must really be running out of ideas if they consider this interesting and compelling TV.

Second- Why would we need to be on it? Most here, while we have quit smoking cigarettes, still maintain our Nicotine addiction.

Third- Reality Shows are about the stupidest thing to ever come to TV. Thats just my opinion though.
 

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1. Reality shows are stupid but very popular. Visability
2. THe object of our game is to not smoke... Might be interesting to see how one person vaping compares with 3 people using the method of thier choice.
3. already covered in 1

I thought it had the potential to be positive national publicity. Really bring it to the out as a positive step towards being a smoke free nation.
 

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First off- A Reality Show about people quitting Smoking? Seriously?
Whats so interesting and dramatic about that? Its not like they are ....../.... addicts or Alcoholics.
The industry must really be running out of ideas if they consider this interesting and compelling TV.

Second- Why would we need to be on it? Most here, while we have quit smoking cigarettes, still maintain our Nicotine addiction.

Third- Reality Shows are about the stupidest thing to ever come to TV. Thats just my opinion though.


Nicotine is as addictive as .........Look it up!
 

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Has anyone seen the ad for new tv show "Breathing Room"?
Reality show about 4 people quitting smoking due this fall.
www.breathingroom.tv

This is what we NEED to be on.

I think it would be an interesting show...I dont know about you but I was a monster trying to give up smokes with the patch, gum and losenge..My 510 has been the only thing that has kept me smoke free! Thanks for the info!
 

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Nicotine is as addictive as .........Look it up!

Yes I know that. Whats your point?
While it might be as addictive as ......, its not as detrimental to ones health.
I dont know about you, but I have never seen a nicotine addict living in the streets, sleeping in a box, robbing people to get their next fix and then overdosing on it and dieing in their own vomit.
 

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I'm not sure of the term in English, but to me any show is as good as the "villain." The "villain" can be an idea, an addiction, neighbors, the intellectually/emotionally/humoristically challenging persona of a show's host. Something that is an element of dynamic and/or uncertainty. It is the life and blood of artistic expression. The opposite to that is blandness. Blandness is ok for normal people, not for TV, theater, cinema or music.


In this particular example, to stop smoking thanks to vaping is much to clear cut for it to be interesting in the set context. They need people who will struggle to keep the thing going on. You're killing your show if one of them has such an easy way out as a PV :p
 

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Yes I know that. Whats your point?
While it might be as addictive as ......, its not as detrimental to ones health.
I dont know about you, but I have never seen a nicotine addict living in the streets, sleeping in a box, robbing people to get their next fix and then overdosing on it and dieing in their own vomit.



Maybe we have not seen that because nicotine is a legal substance unlike ....... Was not trying to start a fight with you at all just thought your response was a bit rude. I didnt say that nicotine and ...... were alike or anything just that they are both addictive. I personally would watch a show about people quitting smoking because I can understand what they may be going through and it is always interesting seeing other people strungle just as you have. Have a great day!
 

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I dont know about you, but I have never seen a nicotine addict living in the streets, sleeping in a box, robbing people to get their next fix and then overdosing on it and dieing in their own vomit.

I don't see ...... killing 400,000 persons a year in a country such as the United States. Not even 100,000 like alcohol. And not because it is illegal: as the ...... decriminalization has shown recently in Portugal, decriminalization strongly diminishes the number of OD and incites more people to seek out medical advice without increasing the number of addicts.
 

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I don't see ...... killing 400,000 persons a year in a country such as the United States. Not even 100,000 like alcohol. And not because it is illegal: as the ...... decriminalization has shown recently in Portugal, decriminalization strongly diminishes the number of OD and incites more people to seek out medical advice without increasing the number of addicts.


Thanks for the info!
 

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Absolutely stupid. Just like all of the other "reality" shows.
"Survivor" cast worries about where to get some food while the sound and camera crew set there a few feet away munching on sandwiches and snacks. "Reality" No. The crew at "Breathing Room" will probably be setting around puffing on analogs.
 

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I don't see ...... killing 400,000 persons a year in a country such as the United States. Not even 100,000 like alcohol. And not because it is illegal: as the ...... decriminalization has shown recently in Portugal, decriminalization strongly diminishes the number of OD and incites more people to seek out medical advice without increasing the number of addicts.


Nicotine isnt what kills. Its the chemicals and carcinogens in cigarettes that kills.
If nicotine was such a dangerous substance that it actually caused the death of the user I doubt any of us would be here doing what we are doing because then Vaping would be illegal.
 

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Anywho.. After watching the trailer for the show..I will be watching it..No matter how stupid reality shows are. It reminds me of the show intervention I think it could be very helpful to other people trying to quit. I know for me if I didnt have my PV I would still be smoking and I feel I can relate to there strungle in trying to quit.
 

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Nicotine isnt what kills. Its the chemicals and carcinogens in cigarettes that kills.
If nicotine was such a dangerous substance that it actually caused the death of the user I doubt any of us would be here doing what we are doing because then Vaping would be illegal.


Indeed that and the carbon monoxide poisoning, you are perfectly right. I misread your statement as related to the show in question.
 

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Nicotine isnt what kills. Its the chemicals and carcinogens in cigarettes that kills.
If nicotine was such a dangerous substance that it actually caused the death of the user I doubt any of us would be here doing what we are doing because then Vaping would be illegal.


Totally off subject.... but there are also websites for ...... addicts and pill junkies where they get on there and talk about there different pill combos and stuff which I am pretty sure is not legal. And nicotine can kill people. Just because something is legal does not make it safe by any means. Cigs are legal and look at what they do to people, and the government knows they contain cancer causing chemicals.
 

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Yes I know that. Whats your point?
While it might be as addictive as ......, its not as detrimental to ones health.
I dont know about you, but I have never seen a nicotine addict living in the streets, sleeping in a box, robbing people to get their next fix and then overdosing on it and dieing in their own vomit.

Or maybe that is just because Cigarettes are cheap (relatively) and legal. And for all its faults, Big Tobacco has been fair with things.

Which is more detrimental, ...... and other Opiates, which when pure and used with proper medical practices does not cause cancer(I may be wrong but highly doubtful as they all have been used extensively in medical practice). Or Cigarettes which contain known carcinogens. Don't hold the drug responsible for peoples misuse of said drug.

But this is where the grey area comes to play. With Cigarettes and smoking it is virtually impossible to overdose. But with vaping and solutions of concentrated nicotine, the possibility of overdose comes into play. While the person Smoking will probably never be able to overdose, A vapor may overdose. Most likely due to improper handling, not the actual vaping of the nicotine juice.

Lastly with how addictive nicotine is, If the price was adjusted to be on par with ....... How far would people go for their fix? And how much of the negatives in the ...... addicts lifestyle is part of their social standing in upbringing? Reference the movie based on book based on true life "Permanent Midnight." I believe the book came under some fire as being fiction, but that does not affect my point. If a person has a capable and willing support structure, they can go into any depth of addiction and still not wind up sleeping in a box on the streets. I know someone with an addiction to crack, I guarantee you they will never sleep homeless on the street. Their family would not let that happen. I would probably rob someone to feed my nicotine addiction, and I am certian if every nicotine addict stops deluding themselves and looks inside at the truth, they would find they may be surprised at what they would do themselves.

And do not even try to defend yourself saying you would never do something like that. There is no way you could have been in that situation to say what you would or would not do. Cigarettes are too cheap, and you know you could bum at least a puff off someones cig, or spark up a dropped .... from the ground. But those that have tried to quit nicotine, I am sure have an understanding how strong it is. How far would you go if nicotine is as guarded as coke or ......, and not just sitting there in a cigarette but in a public ashtray?
 

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So nicotine causes COPD?
No, again, its all the other garbage in cigarettes that causes all the problems.

Or maybe we are the closest to test subjects about the long term effects of relatively pure nicotine? I may be mistaken, but some other compounds similarly close to nicotine, have been found to be carcinogenic. But dont worry it will be a more pure lung cancer, no tar to deal with at the same time.

Im sorry, but there seems to be a lot of positive propaganda concerning nicotine in this thread. Lets not fool ourselves, we are setting foot into unknown territory. Logically it seems to be a lot better than smoking. But for decades, smoking was harmless! Lets not make the same mistake and be found with our foot in our mouths in 2050.

Plus it will keep the manufactures and vendors in business in the future if it is found to be bad for you. No legal woes of people saying "Everyone said it was safe in 2009, now I have holes in my lungs so I am suing!"

Truthfully I don't think that will happen.

Happy Vaping!
 
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