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[paulyc44]

OK so I started puffing away on my new 510 yesterday rejoicing then ...
it hit me, nicotine wooziness.

I smoked a pack a day of Parliament Lights for a long time without ever feeling the jitteriness and nervousness I felt yesterday vaping 24mg juice. I smoke to relax and this defeated the purpose. My question is how do I
know what miligram is right without having to experiment with myself like a lab rat?

I mean how much different is 16mg from 24mg? How do YOU gauge the strength?

 

[AngusATAT]

I started off with 24mg. At first, I felt the same way. When I would vape a lot, I would definitely get a serious nic buzz. So now I use both 24mg and ~12mg. I have some bottles of 24mg that I cut in half with VG to use when I am sitting in front of the computer and vaping away. It helped out a lot.

 

[SLDS181]

24mg, for me, is first in the morning, after meals, and after specific kinds of fun. The rest of the time, its 0 nic (I mixed it) for when I'm puffing out of habit, and 12mg when I feel like I need some nicotine.

How do you know whats right with the patch, the gum, the lozenges? If you suddenly smoked 4 packs of parliaments instead of 1, how would you feel? What if you smoked camel unfiltered?

There is no such thing as someone else figuring out whats right for you.

 

[Mac]

I bounce back and forth from 4mg to 6mg and chainvape. But my device is a high voltage output.

 

[paulyc44]

I bounce back and forth from 4mg to 6mg and chainvape. But my device is a high voltage output.

Can you explain how voltage and nicotine levels work with one another? How does this work?

 

[paulyc44]

Thanks for the replies gents. I will get myself some low nic juice to start off with.

 

[PhoenixRising]

I was a pack and a half a day parliament lite smoker and 24mg is the top end of my vape chain. I usually mix it up with 16 or 18mg. I have found that my body has adjusted and now I can handle 24 more often - which is good since I have a ton of juice at that strength. I also have some 12mg high voltage juice from Nhaler and that stuff is flat out yummy. I mix it with his 24mg stuff and can vape the combo all day. So I would say 18mg wins again.

 

[Ridewithme38]

and then you get the other side....

I smoked just under a half a pack of Marlboro menthol lights a day before i switch to Vaping...i started with 16-18mg but found that i still needed cigarettes...switch to 24mg and have been smoke free for almost 3 months!

 

[AngusATAT]

Thanks for the replies gents. I will get myself some low nic juice to start off with.

Remember, while you can always cut down juice that is too strong for you, you can't make weaker juice more potent.

 

[paulyc44]

Remember, while you can always cut down juice that is too strong for you, you can't make weaker juice more potent.

That's interesting. I was bad in chemistry so how does this principal apply? One would think that adding 24mg juice to 16mg juice would increase the nicotine level.

 

[one_raven]

I smoke 36 all the time and it keeps me calm and focused.
It's going to be different for everyone.
The only way to know is to try, but maybe it will be helpful to try it the other way.

Cut your 24 down to like 12, or even 6 - if that's not enough, make it more potent until it is right.
At least you won't have anxiety attacks from too much if you do it this way.

 

[AngusATAT]

That's interesting. I was bad in chemistry so how does this principal apply? One would think that adding 24mg juice to 16mg juice would increase the nicotine level.

I'm talking the juice by itself, not mixed with other juice.

Just wanted to make sure someone didn't buy only some 12mg juice and find it's too weak for them.

 

[MickiO]

The tobacco cigarette makers claim there is around 18mg to 22mg per pack of cigs, and they also claim that all cigarettes have the same amount of nicotine, whether they are regular, Lights, Ultra-lights, and say it is only the tar that is reduced, by use of a thicker filters to reduce tar, and help give a lighter flavored tobacco taste, yet the nicotine amount remains the same.

So based on that, of all brands, one tobacco cig avgs, around 1mg of nicotine per ciggie.
Nicotine is measured per ml,

There is approx 20 drops in one ml, so with 18mg, that's 0.9 (almost 1 mg @ drop) and 24mg, is 1.2 mg per drop. So depending how many drops you use and how often you top off your cart, or drip, and how long you sit and vaped, 8 drops is like 9.5 ciggies in one hour, using 24mg, compared to 7.5, at 18mg. If it were over a 2 hour period, that'd be double, so 18mg would be similar to nicotine amount in 3/4 of pack being vaped in 2 hours, vs, an entire pack of smokes, in 2 hours, using 24mg.

NOTE: Just an estimate, vaping amounts is thought to be less, because of the absorbtion rate, but then again, alot of us vape more often, than we ever smoked, sooo,

 

[Moonflame]

The tobacco cigarette makers claim there is around 18mg to 22mg per pack of cigs, and they also claim that all cigarettes have the same amount of nicotine, whether they are regular, Lights, Ultra-lights, and say it is only the tar that is reduced, by use of a thicker filters to reduce tar, and help give a lighter flavored tobacco taste, yet the nicotine amount remains the same.

So based on that, of all brands, one tobacco cig avgs, around 1mg of nicotine per ciggie.
Nicotine is measured per ml,

There is approx 20 drops in one ml, so with 18mg, that's 0.9 (almost 1 mg @ drop) and 24mg, is 1.2 mg per drop. So depending how many drops you use and how often you top off your cart, or drip, and how long you sit and vaped, 8 drops is like 9.5 ciggies in one hour, using 24mg, compared to 7.5, at 18mg. If it were over a 2 hour period, that'd be double, so 18mg would be similar to nicotine amount in 3/4 of pack being vaped in 2 hours, vs, an entire pack of smokes, in 2 hours, using 24mg.

NOTE: Just an estimate, vaping amounts is thought to be less, because of the absorbtion rate, but then again, alot of us vape more often, than we ever smoked, sooo,

You're numbers are way off. The mg amount is how much nicotine there is per gram not per the amount in the bottle you buy. 18 mg liquid is 1.8% nicotine and 24 mg liquid is 2.4% nicotine. So in one drop of 18 mg liquid only 1.8% of that drop is nicotine. Your figures would only be right if you were vaping straight nicotine which would be incredibly dangerous.

 

[paulyc44]

The tobacco cigarette makers claim there is around 18mg to 22mg per pack of cigs, and they also claim that all cigarettes have the same amount of nicotine, whether they are regular, Lights, Ultra-lights, and say it is only the tar that is reduced, by use of a thicker filters to reduce tar, and help give a lighter flavored tobacco taste, yet the nicotine amount remains the same.

So based on that, of all brands, one tobacco cig avgs, around 1mg of nicotine per ciggie.
Nicotine is measured per ml,

There is approx 20 drops in one ml, so with 18mg, that's 0.9 (almost 1 mg @ drop) and 24mg, is 1.2 mg per drop. So depending how many drops you use and how often you top off your cart, or drip, and how long you sit and vaped, 8 drops is like 9.5 ciggies in one hour, using 24mg, compared to 7.5, at 18mg. If it were over a 2 hour period, that'd be double, so 18mg would be similar to nicotine amount in 3/4 of pack being vaped in 2 hours, vs, an entire pack of smokes, in 2 hours, using 24mg.

NOTE: Just an estimate, vaping amounts is thought to be less, because of the absorbtion rate, but then again, alot of us vape more often, than we ever smoked, sooo,

Tremendously helpful! Thank you! I wish there were a chart or something to help people just starting out. How the hell are we supposed to know where to start when it comes to millagrams? No wonder I am sick!

 

[one_raven]

You're numbers are way off. The mg amount is how much nicotine there is per gram not per the amount in the bottle you buy. 18 mg liquid is 1.8% nicotine and 24 mg liquid is 2.4% nicotine. So in one drop of 18 mg liquid only 1.8% of that drop is nicotine. Your figures would only be right if you were vaping straight nicotine which would be incredibly dangerous.

Per ml.
Also, I have read that cigarettes average between 7 and 14mg per cigarette (yes the manufacturers claim there is the same level of nicotine across, light, full, ultra light etc - but not across manufacturers or even brands).
While they each have between 7 and 14mg of nicotine, your body only absorbs about 1-2mg - due to burn-off and other factors.

I have yet to see any numbers regarding how much nicotine your body actually absorbs when you vaporize it, however, so no such chart exists yet.

 

[solonguniverse]

Tremendously helpful! Thank you! I wish there were a chart or something to help people just starting out. How the hell are we supposed to know where to start when it comes to millagrams? No wonder I am sick!

There are quite a few threads that can help determine the correct nicotine dosage for you. You can be thorough in your research before you get started or like most of us...figure it out as you go along. Nicotine users of all kinds are uncannily good at self-medicating and knowing when enough is enough.

 

[Proverb]

That's interesting. I was bad in chemistry so how does this principal apply? One would think that adding 24mg juice to 16mg juice would increase the nicotine level.

Adding 24 mg juice to 16 mg juice would not increase the level of nicotine. The trick to this is that it's mg/ml, not just straight mg. So let's say you mixed together a ml of the 24 mg stuff and a ml of the 16 mg stuff. You'd end up with a liquid that's (24 mg + 16 mg)/(1 ml + 1 ml) = 20 mg/ml.

For me personally, I rather like to vape a lot, but I was only about 3/4 of a pack a day smoker. For me personally, 18mg juice is what keeps me off of analogs. If I wanted to preserve the flavor of whatever liquid I was vaping, but wanted to do the cutting myself, I'd get a bottle of the 24 mg stuff and a bottle of the 12 mg stuff, so that when I went half and half I would still get 18mg.

 

[MickiO]

You're numbers are way off. The mg amount is how much nicotine there is per gram not per the amount in the bottle you buy. 18 mg liquid is 1.8% nicotine and 24 mg liquid is 2.4% nicotine. So in one drop of 18 mg liquid only 1.8% of that drop is nicotine. Your figures would only be right if you were vaping straight nicotine which would be incredibly dangerous.

Every Supplier who makes & sells E-liquid I've talked to, upon requesting this info directly from them has told me Nicotine in E-liquid is measured per ml.

 

[one_raven]

Adding 24 mg juice to 16 mg juice would not increase the level of nicotine. The trick to this is that it's mg/ml, not just straight mg. So let's say you mixed together a ml of the 24 mg stuff and a ml of the 16 mg stuff. You'd end up with a liquid that's (24 mg + 16 mg)/(1 ml + 1 ml) = 20 mg/ml.

20>16