One ML of 11mg. juice is equal to a PACK of 11mg. analogs? Is this correct?
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Hi Seminolewind.
I'll have a go but the measurements are only guidelines, we don't know really how much nicotine is absorbed.
Cigarettes average delivery of 1mg each.
20x1=20mg per pack.
2x10mg eliquid = 20mg
If your pack of cigs totals 11mg then, yes, 1ml of 11mg eliquid would be the same.
That can only be a guide as I said. The best thing to do is to listen to your body, start low and gradually raise your dose if you are not satisfied. Try spikes of high occasionally - a couple of drops, the rest of the time lower so you don't develop too much tolerance.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/3598-nicotine-safety.html
I'll have a go but the measurements are only guidelines, we don't know really how much nicotine is absorbed.
Cigarettes average delivery of 1mg each.
20x1=20mg per pack.
2x10mg eliquid = 20mg
If your pack of cigs totals 11mg then, yes, 1ml of 11mg eliquid would be the same.
That can only be a guide as I said. The best thing to do is to listen to your body, start low and gradually raise your dose if you are not satisfied. Try spikes of high occasionally - a couple of drops, the rest of the time lower so you don't develop too much tolerance.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/3598-nicotine-safety.html
Your body feels what it needs and when it's too much. I smoked a pack of cigs a day. There is no way, even starting out vaping, that I could vape 11 mgs all day long. I find I vape more than I smoked a little more constant. I think if I vaped less and just took like 10 puffs every hour or more, then I could probably do 11, but I cannot do 11 all day. I do between 6-8 generally as much as I want all day and don't get any heart racing or problems. If I vape less often, then yes, I spike it with 11 for a bit, then go back down. Your body with tell you, and vaping seems to sneak up on you, so if you vape and vape away on a higher mg all of a sudden it can catch up and hit you, so just be careful. As always, I believe it's the smartest to get away with the lowest you can.
That's very similar to what I do Lucky, I mostly use 6mg and vape as much as I want of that. Occasionally if I get a craving I will go for a couple of drops of higher for a spike.
Some people have higher dependence and tolerance than that though so it's a very individual thing.
Some people have higher dependence and tolerance than that though so it's a very individual thing.
No. There are too many variables to make any sort of direct comparison such as that.
One ml of 11 mg liquid has 11 mg of nicotine content. How much nicotine your body actually absorbs if you fully consume 1 ml liquid is still an open question, however, and will require much more study before any good answers are available, including direct bloodwork measurements, etc.
Up to now though, preliminary research is tending to show we get much less nicotine from vaping than from smoking, on a puff per puff comparison, and using 16 mg Ruyan liquid. See:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5034-nicotine-absorbtion-vaping-research.html
Edit: Oops, when I started to post there weren't any replies. But I got interrupted and now see many others already answered.
One ml of 11 mg liquid has 11 mg of nicotine content. How much nicotine your body actually absorbs if you fully consume 1 ml liquid is still an open question, however, and will require much more study before any good answers are available, including direct bloodwork measurements, etc.
Up to now though, preliminary research is tending to show we get much less nicotine from vaping than from smoking, on a puff per puff comparison, and using 16 mg Ruyan liquid. See:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5034-nicotine-absorbtion-vaping-research.html
Edit: Oops, when I started to post there weren't any replies. But I got interrupted and now see many others already answered.
Thanks to all. I asked cause I don't want to find out that I gave up a pack a day for the equivalent of 3 packs a day of nicotine. But this seems right , I know nothing is perfect esp what's being absorbed. But I just wanted to ball park. Thanks
Hang on,let me get this right...are we saying that 1ml of 36mg liquid delivers the same punch as 36 gigs?
If we absorbed 100% of the nicotine that would be correct. This isn't even remotely possible which makes that New Zealand study quite suspect. The entire thing reads like a press release as opposed to a scientific study.
I think I'll just rely on empirical data...maths makes my braincell ache. Still, 36 cigs worth per ml...wow.
Listen to your body Red. Use the lowest dose you can to keep you away from tobacco. If you need 36 to satisfy cravings then you're still probably doing much less harm than smoking so if that's the trade then it's not a bad one. Lower doses are probably a bit healthier if you can manage that.
Oh for sure Kate, I only vape a drop or two of 36mg of a morning to get my corpse revived, then it's 24 or 16 during the day, and lately my own concoction (which it seems must be a really low concentration) throughout the evening. Still, I reckon a ml of 36mg throughout the day wouldn't affect me the way 36 ciggies would have, so either absorption must be considerably less or the other crap in cigs just makes you feel really bad. I know....both!
Enlightening thread, thanks!
Enlightening thread, thanks!
The absortion study wholly aside, I am positive that my body is not actually absorbing 36 mg of nicotine from 1 ml of 36 mg liquid. The study, however, only tends to support what my body is already telling me, in no uncertain terms!
I measured in a syringe yesterday. I used to smoke a pack of 11 mgs a day. I went thru 2 mls of 11mg juice yesterday. Which is like 2 packs, but hopefully I was getting more nicotine from those cigs than I am from the juice, since it's not a perfect conversion, but the only one we have.
Okay I am New here, But some of the things I have read here don't had up, and I mean on the whole forum, not just this post.
1. If nicotine comes into contact with the skin, it is dangerous becuase we absorb it so easily through our skin?
2. Reports I have read here also state that as far as "second hand" nicotine absorbed by others is near impossible because we exhale less than like .01 percent back out.
3. Based on those statements we would be getting nearly a 100% of the nicotine that we come into contact with? All these statements couldn't be accurate, and yet I see them all the time. So,
Unless the PG or VG or what ever it is doesn't transfer the nicotine or protects it from getting released, then we would be obsorbing all of it. However, from my experience we don't actually get much nicotine from vaping it since my nicotine cravings seem to be much higher with vaping, like everyone else.
But those things concern me far less than this question.
So here is my REAL question, that no one seems to be asking, If PG is used as a preservative, then for me the concern would be that as a smoker wouldn't it be likely that the PG could be obsorbed into the tar, that is already in my lungs acting much like a sealant which would not allow us to every get rid of the tar from our lungs which in turn would increase the chances of emphysema? I am not a scientist but I am really concerned about this questions.
All I know is that preservatives are dangerous regardless of the FDA findings, the FDA isn't about health, they are as corrupt as they can be, as evidenced by current events.
Anyway, I hate that my first post is negative, but it seems to me that we maybe trading one kind of problem for possibly an even more dangerous issue, sealing our lungs fate.
Hopefully someone who is a little smarter than me may have some insight into this.
Thanks
Steve
1. If nicotine comes into contact with the skin, it is dangerous becuase we absorb it so easily through our skin?
2. Reports I have read here also state that as far as "second hand" nicotine absorbed by others is near impossible because we exhale less than like .01 percent back out.
3. Based on those statements we would be getting nearly a 100% of the nicotine that we come into contact with? All these statements couldn't be accurate, and yet I see them all the time. So,
Unless the PG or VG or what ever it is doesn't transfer the nicotine or protects it from getting released, then we would be obsorbing all of it. However, from my experience we don't actually get much nicotine from vaping it since my nicotine cravings seem to be much higher with vaping, like everyone else.
But those things concern me far less than this question.
So here is my REAL question, that no one seems to be asking, If PG is used as a preservative, then for me the concern would be that as a smoker wouldn't it be likely that the PG could be obsorbed into the tar, that is already in my lungs acting much like a sealant which would not allow us to every get rid of the tar from our lungs which in turn would increase the chances of emphysema? I am not a scientist but I am really concerned about this questions.
All I know is that preservatives are dangerous regardless of the FDA findings, the FDA isn't about health, they are as corrupt as they can be, as evidenced by current events.
Anyway, I hate that my first post is negative, but it seems to me that we maybe trading one kind of problem for possibly an even more dangerous issue, sealing our lungs fate.
Hopefully someone who is a little smarter than me may have some insight into this.
Thanks
Steve
stmiller42, We really don't know the answers.
I know that I feel better now that I'm off analogs, but that doesn't mean that I am. We are the guinea pigs here and only time will till if there is any long term effect that vaping has on us. I'm hoping that we are good to go but ya never know.
I know that I feel better now that I'm off analogs, but that doesn't mean that I am. We are the guinea pigs here and only time will till if there is any long term effect that vaping has on us. I'm hoping that we are good to go but ya never know.
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