Model numbers and Bloog names

[analog]

Cool!
On the model number, most of them refer to the whole ecig, so in 808d-1 it's the combo of battery and carto. I see how that can be confusing thinking the model could refer to one of the parts. The bmf batteries and cartos both have a number of improvements from the original 808d-1 design, relatively well documented here.

Awesome on the diy stuff! I'm an avid diy'er myself. Right now I'm playing with making my own juice starting from tobacco to get the other alkaloids other than just nicotine (called WTA for Whole Tobacco Alkaloid if you want to search the forums for some info). I rolled my own smokes for quite a while, so I'm hoping I'll figure out how to nail the flavor and smell of a freshly opened pouch of drum or bali shag tobacco. But I have a feeling by the time I get to that point that I'll be so over tobacco that I'll have to start flavor mixing myself though.

 

[starsong]

You're welcome.

Ooh, a newer testimonial. Well, that's officially at least 4 people who have said their diamond batteries lived a short life. I don't want to draw any sweeping conclusions, but I'm certainly not reading about such issues with the BMF batteries here, unless I've missed it. I wonder, are they talking about it 'where the sun shines so brightly'?

I've seen plenty of people saying they had this issue and that issue, and the response is always: send it back, we'll replace it. Which is met with a round of applause and celebration of how awesomely bright the sun shines. It is a shame tho cuz they really are pretty. Maybe someday we can get bling here too Star likes sparkly things.

To be fair, my very first one that is a non-diamond is working. So I am alternating between that and my Bloog until the new ones arrive.

 

[Frick]

I've seen plenty of people saying they had this issue and that issue, and the response is always: send it back, we'll replace it. Which is met with a round of applause and celebration of how awesomely bright the sun shines.

Okay...that's some funny stuff.

 

[leaford]

I am done with the stinkys for sure

Twoskins, I am very glad to hear that, and I wish you nothing but success at sticking with vaping whatever brand or model you choose. That's the only thing that matters in the end, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

Cool!
On the model number, most of them refer to the whole ecig, so in 808d-1 it's the combo of battery and carto. I see how that can be confusing thinking the model could refer to one of the parts. The bmf batteries and cartos both have a number of improvements from the original 808d-1 design, relatively well documented here.

Awesome on the diy stuff! I'm an avid diy'er myself. Right now I'm playing with making my own juice starting from tobacco to get the other alkaloids other than just nicotine (called WTA for Whole Tobacco Alkaloid if you want to search the forums for some info). I rolled my own smokes for quite a while, so I'm hoping I'll figure out how to nail the flavor and smell of a freshly opened pouch of drum or bali shag tobacco. But I have a feeling by the time I get to that point that I'll be so over tobacco that I'll have to start flavor mixing myself though.

That is cool. I read some post (from you I think) about the WTA... cool idea.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

Twoskins, I am very glad to hear that, and I wish you nothing but success at sticking with vaping whatever brand or model you choose. That's the only thing that matters in the end, as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks leaford. It's all thanks to this forum. I read through forum posts for about 4-5 weeks before buying a ecig (I don't buy ANYTHING displayed on the counter of a gas station or liquor store as a hard rule)... I'd like to say I finally made an informed decision but actually I was just frustrated and confused in the end and just picked Bloog based on one rave review in the nooby forum.
I certainly chose well. It is a great product. If you guys get your supply/CS problems worked out I think you'll be huge.

 

[leaford]

Thanks leaford. It's all thanks to this forum. I read through forum posts for about 4-5 weeks before buying a ecig (I don't buy ANYTHING displayed on the counter of a gas station or liquor store as a hard rule)... I'd like to say I finally made an informed decision but actually I was just frustrated and confused in the end and just picked Bloog based on one rave review in the nooby forum.
I certainly chose well. It is a great product. If you guys get your supply/CS problems worked out I think you'll be huge.

Thanks, and your gas station rule is especially good when it comes to e-cigs. The ones I've seen in gas stations and 7-11s are invariably the cheapest and worst, usually made in India, of all places!

 

[RB37]

the diamond tip batteries can be found at vaporkings.com for less, but they are still not up to par with the BMF's in my findings. Not sure why anyone would want to pay 4-5$ less for a inferior product? spread that out over the life of the battery, and its peanuts. If you could afford to smoke, you can afford a full BMF setup. If you vape more than smoke, ofcourse it will cost more, just like if you were to smoke more.

 

[analog]

Gotta take a stab at the oft reported cost of smoking. I live in tobacco land. I rolled my own smokes for almost the last 10 years. It was only a year ago they started raising taxes on tobacco "Tax Class J", meaning a year ago I was paying as little as $8 for a drum of tobacco that lasted all month long. Even with the 400% increase caused by taxes, that drum is now only $35 for a month worth of smoking. It will take me quite a while to offset ecig expenses, and that's fine. I know you didn't do it, but it seems like so many times vaping is compared to buying single packs in NYC, when many people are paying far, far less. Even in our current tax climate, tobacco shops have started selling rolling tobacco labeled as pipe tobacco, $16 for 6 ounces, add in $2 for 2 packs of tops rolling papers and you've got a cheap habit.

Saving money is nice if it happens incidentally, but many could simply switch to rollies and save more than with vaping.

 

[DeeLeeKay]

Analog,

True, I was paying 15 dollars a lb for pipe tobacco and 2.00 for a carton of tubes. It took 2 lbs and 5 packs of tubes which ran about $40.00 a month. This was a 5 carton a month habit. I am paying a little more with the vaping, but my health improvement is priceless at this point.

 

[RB37]

Damn, you all were some hard core smokers. I just asked for a carton of Camel Menthols every few days. (I am to lazy to roll my own).

 

[pmos69]

E-8
E-9
Kr808d-1
Kr808d-2

Just to add a bit of (des)information on this:
You should know that these are actually not "standards" and the model numbers are usually from the first model launched.
Device manufacturers usually don't claim compatibility with devices from other manufacturers, even when they share a common threading.

If you take the BMF, although the batteries may share the threading with other kr808d-1 equipment, they are 3.6V regulated, which most (all?) the other ones are not, which means they can reach 4.2V when freshly charged.
The BMF cartos, although they can be used with other bats, are specially designed to work at 3.6V, and can sometimes have bad results in other batteries.

Can you mix and match BMF bats and cartos with other kr808d-1 equipment? Yes.
Will it work ok? Most of the time. No garantees.

 

[Frick]

^ Good point pmos. In fact, people have reported problems using other "KR808" batteries with BMF cartos, although whether it's related to the voltage is anyone's guess.

 

[starsong]

<<<< one of those people.

^ Good point pmos. In fact, people have reported problems using other "KR808" batteries with BMF cartos, although whether it's related to the voltage is anyone's guess.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

Just to add a bit of (des)information on this:
You should know that these are actually not "standards" and the model numbers are usually from the first model launched.
Device manufacturers usually don't claim compatibility with devices from other manufacturers, even when they share a common threading.

If you take the BMF, although the batteries may share the threading with other kr808d-1 equipment, they are 3.6V regulated, which most (all?) the other ones are not, which means they can reach 4.2V when freshly charged.
The BMF cartos, although they can be used with other bats, are specially designed to work at 3.6V, and can sometimes have bad results in other batteries.

Can you mix and match BMF bats and cartos with other kr808d-1 equipment? Yes.
Will it work ok? Most of the time. No garantees.

Thanks for the great info! It seems tough to get the true details.
I have put in some orders of different manufacturers and models...all carto, auto battery style.
I guess I'll post my findings some time.
Not here but I'll throw it in the general forum mess to get lost forever.... Maybe it will help someone.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

Just to add a bit of (des)information on this:
You should know that these are actually not "standards" and the model numbers are usually from the first model launched.
Device manufacturers usually don't claim compatibility with devices from other manufacturers, even when they share a common threading.

If you take the BMF, although the batteries may share the threading with other kr808d-1 equipment, they are 3.6V regulated, which most (all?) the other ones are not, which means they can reach 4.2V when freshly charged.
The BMF cartos, although they can be used with other bats, are specially designed to work at 3.6V, and can sometimes have bad results in other batteries.

Can you mix and match BMF bats and cartos with other kr808d-1 equipment? Yes.
Will it work ok? Most of the time. No garantees.

Thanks for the great info! It seems tough to get the true details.
I have put in some orders of different manufacturers and models...all carto, auto battery style.
I guess I'll post my findings some time.
Not here but I'll throw it in the general forum mess to get lost forever.... Maybe it will help someone.

 

[MichelleDen]

Boge cartos work on mf batts, but its a hit n miss.. theyve all worked on the blue but only some on the red...

 

[slim66]

Dude, you're not in the danger zone, you're home! Welcome! ....

The way I see it, leaford has openly invited comparison to other products because he feels strongly that BMF is better so why not talk about them. So I'll take a hit at a more thorough answering of your questions. I will admit that the one thing that I won't do is if bloog has a product that is identical to what someone else is selling I'm not going to refer you there in this forum. Cool? .....

Analog, thank you so much for your post, partially quoted above. This is exactly the kind of tone I love around here. I especially agree with this statement:

The way I see it, leaford has openly invited comparison to other products because he feels strongly that BMF is better so why not talk about them.

I love this non-defensive and non-territorial kind of approach.

I also like this:

I will admit that the one thing that I won't do is if bloog has a product that is identical to what someone else is selling I'm not going to refer you there in this forum. Cool?

We don't follow any other vendor sub-forum rules or protocol around here anyway, like staying on-topic, et cetera. So with the small caveat you mentioned above, I hope we can throw the general protocol out the window and just welcome one and all.

I know this next part may be a little too academic, but I really like Morton Deutsch’s concept of “benevolent misperception”. See quote below:

“There are a number of reasons he [Deutsch] says why a cooperative process is likely to lead to productive conflict resolution: (1) Cooperative processes aid open and honest communication of relevant information between participants; (2) It encourages the recognition of the legitimacy of the other's interests and of the necessity to search for a solution that is responsive to the needs of each side; (3) It leads to a trusting friendly attitude, which increases sensitivity to similarities and common interests, while minimizing differences; It stimulates a convergence of beliefs and values. Cooperation tends to lead to what Deutsch calls "benevolent misperception." Cooperation tends to minimize differences and enhance a perception of the other's benevolence. This has a dampening effect on conflict and makes escalation unlikely.” (From Book Summary of The Resolution of Conflict by Morton Deutsch )

Bloog could be the "It's all good" sub-forum.

 

[Evie Luv]

Damn, you all were some hard core smokers. I just asked for a carton of Camel Menthols every few days. (I am to lazy to roll my own).

LOL in the small town I live if your seen buying rolling papers everybody knew it wasn't for tobacco!

 

[Onehempcat]

Thanks for what info you have... Just trying to get an understanding of what is out there. It is unreal the attitudes... I'm starting to realize this is not really a place to come for help... It is a place of like minded people to hang out and talk about how THERE way of doing a thing is the BEST way.... and if you don't agree then "I suggest you go to another forum" boy!

Yeah the Bloog thread is unfriendly. Someone mighta pooped in their cornflakes. Look at it like this, your in better shape
But they are correct, you should ask that elsewhere, cause they ain't gonna post other peoples stuff here, advertising it, against their company. You got to understand that. I believe DeeLeeKay explained that very well.
Ask that same question elsewhere, and you will get 10 to 200 friendly people helping you. I think the people here are just mad that the company they like, confused them, then confuses every other potential customer with the kr808d-1 /d-2 thing (I own't add in the batt confusion, or did I just?). Not telling who makes what and what works with who. Thats their fault, cause other sites/ecig makers, do try to let you know what your buying better. BUT BLOOG IS THE BEST, and here, some act it. LOL IS ALL GOOD IN DA HOOD!!!!

Hope that helps most. Do what they say, go elsewhere for this info But use a Bloog cause they rock. It was made to work together, their batts and cartos. Use em as directed. You ain't gonna get medication from a doc, and try to substitute some ingredients on your own, cause you think it is cheaper/easier. Don't do it here. And if you do, expect to not get the best experience. In other words, don't worry so much what works with what, just buy Bloog stuff, and know, some stuff will work with it. KR808D-1 stuff, in specific. PM me if you want, and I will give ya a few links (Not appropriate to share other manufacturers links here) to sites I found compatible witht he MAXX Fusion.