mods blowing up? Really?

[zahzoo]

OK, I'll steer people towards safety . Except I've never seen a mod blow up, or heard of one until this thread (batteries, Yea, usually from charging) . This thread has been educational. I watched a video where the guy swore that mods won't blow up if they have holes. So without this thread, I may have thought that was the case.
BTW, never had an ego

While you may not of heard of many accidents... you have to realize you are only 1 in 7.2 billion people on earth. There are millions of people vaping world wide... while this site has over 200,000 people registered only 18,000 are active. What gets reported here or even in the media is just a tiny fraction of what goes on in the vaping world over all. So your lack of observations dont add up to much in the bigger picture.

For many of us who are safety minded... the amount of new vapers just showing up in this tiny little slice of the internet is exploding rapidly. This includes those who want to jump right into advanced vaping on mechanical mods and sub-ohm atties without having any experience with regulated devices and in many cases no knowledge or education on ohm's law and li-on battery safety. I'm seeing even more of this on Facebook communities for local vaping groups and retailer pages.

My point is it would appear the odds of tragic accidents occurring are rising rapidly as the vaping population grows and the current popularity of cloud chasing using unregulated gear just adds to the increased risks. There are a lot of smart people who sub-ohm vape safely on a daily basis... But also a lot of inexperienced people jumping in... hopefully the more we educate the less risk of accidents. But we can't base it on limited exposure or reports of incidents...

 

[KenD]

Has there been any (mainstream) news reports of the vapeblast incident? I haven't seen any, and considering how much that has been discussed here that would logically imply that there are plenty of incidents that we just haven't heard of

 

[dirtybirdy]

The lowest I have ever built is .15 ohms, and the vape is extremely hot and I have the holes drilled out quite a bit. I will never build anything like a .09 - .01 just because I don't feel safe with it. I feel .15 ohms is probably the lowest I will go for now because the vape isn't even enjoyable its just extremely hot.

As far as mods blowing up on you it can happen to anyone. It doesn't have to be a sub ohm build you could have a 2.5 ohms coil and it still blow up. Its more likely the lower the build the greater the chance of blowing up your mod.

 

[Kaezziel]

I think Many Do.

And I Truly believe that Q-Tip sales have gone Up since e-Cigarettes started to Get Popular.

I particularly like the little pointy ones that are used to remove nail polish from around the cuticle..... don't ask how I know about those..

 

[Ed_C]

I particularly like the little pointy ones that are used to remove nail polish from around the cuticle..... don't ask how I know about those..

How do you know about these? My guess is that you're either married or a drag queen.

 

[Kaezziel]

LMAO!!

Married... I sometimes paint my wife's toenails for her...





Yeah... I'm whipped...

 

[SmokinRabbit]

LMAO!!

Married... I sometimes paint my wife's toenails for her...





Yeah... I'm whipped...

Nicest husband ever!


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[bluecat]

Has there been any (mainstream) news reports of the vapeblast incident? I haven't seen any, and considering how much that has been discussed here that would logically imply that there are plenty of incidents that we just haven't heard of

Most likely you won't. No one really cares what happens at a vape show except vapers, well not all of us care either.

Now if this happened in a crowded shopping mall then yes it would make the news.

 

[zoiDman]

I particularly like the little pointy ones that are used to remove nail polish from around the cuticle..... don't ask how I know about those..

Since I am Self-Conscious about Shopping for Cosmetics, I Smash the Heads of my Q-Tips with one of these...

It's Very Manly. And helps to relieve Pent Up Aggressions when a new DIY mix Doesn't turn out well.

 

[Kaezziel]

Nicest husband ever!


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Awwww... thanks Rabbit!! I do try to take care of my girl... I mean, she's been putting up with my crap for 15 years, I gotta do something to make it worth her while!

Since I am Self-Conscious about Shopping for Cosmetics, I Smash the Heads of my Q-Tips with one of these...

It's Very Manly. And helps to relieve Pent Up Aggressions when a new DIY mix Doesn't turn out well.

LOL... I hear ya, man!
But you should see the looks when I walked into Sally's Beauty Supply by myself and walked up to the counter with a box of 500' of rayon and a tub of pointy Q-tips.... I just slapped the money down on the counter, said keep the change and walked out like a Man!

 

[eyerhere]

I haven't seen all of this idiot's videos, but I did read that he vented a battery at the end of one of them, and just sat there trying to figure out what was going on ... all the while holding his mod with a dirty rag because its too hot to hold with his bare hands.

Yup that's what he did. And then he put a new battery in the same mod with the same build. Obviously he wants to be a statistic when he grows up.

 

[tj99959]

While you may not of heard of many accidents... you have to realize you are only 1 in 7.2 billion people on earth. There are millions of people vaping world wide... while this site has over 200,000 people registered only 18,000 are active. What gets reported here or even in the media is just a tiny fraction of what goes on in the vaping world over all. So your lack of observations dont add up to much in the bigger picture.

For many of us who are safety minded... the amount of new vapers just showing up in this tiny little slice of the internet is exploding rapidly. This includes those who want to jump right into advanced vaping on mechanical mods and sub-ohm atties without having any experience with regulated devices and in many cases no knowledge or education on ohm's law and li-on battery safety. I'm seeing even more of this on Facebook communities for local vaping groups and retailer pages.

My point is it would appear the odds of tragic accidents occurring are rising rapidly as the vaping population grows and the current popularity of cloud chasing using unregulated gear just adds to the increased risks. There are a lot of smart people who sub-ohm vape safely on a daily basis... But also a lot of inexperienced people jumping in... hopefully the more we educate the less risk of accidents. But we can't base it on limited exposure or reports of incidents...

^^ What he said

This really isn't about 'use this instead of that', or 'vape this way instead of that'. It's about a way of thinking about what we do.

 

[DC2]

Use common sense and use safe battery practices:

Batteries should never get warm or hot. If they do, they are defective. The tanks with heating atomizers will get warm or hot, that's a different matter altogether.

Use only the approved charger for the batteries that you are using. Don't mix and match chargers or batteries from different brands. Don't use your charger in the usb ports on a computer or car; these could have too little or too much current for either the charger or the battery and could cause damage.

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Don't charge batteries unattended. Be around the charging area so should an incident occur you are around to put out a fire or call the fire department.

Charge batteries on a flame resistant surface: Marble counter top, stove top, metal baking pan, pyrex dish. Lithium batteries and chargers emit flames when they fail.

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Statistically, most battery incidents occur while the battery is charging. This is when a battery is most vulnerable to vent or explode. Its common sense to remove a battery from the charger once it is fully charged; do not leave on the charger overnight while sleeping. Most chargers are "supposed" to stop charging after a full charge, but electrical circuits can fail. Don't trust your home to a failed circuit board.

Brand name eGo batteries (Joyetech, Vision, Kangertech) are considered to have a higher quality control than "generic batteries", which could have been built with less factory quality control with inferior materials. Generic batteries are of unknown quality made by an unknown manufacturer who doesn't give a crap about you and your safety. IMHO, its well worth paying a little extra for a better quality battery from a reputable manufacturer than trying to save a couple of bucks with a generic.

Where do you weigh in on the idea of using a charging bag?

 

[The Build]

I am reading all of these responses and feel like I have to say something...I am a cautious builder but a decently assertive one-my goal is density and flavor without breaching lower than .2-safety is the most important thing (and sub ohm is a concern at any level if you aren't cautious) so I set out to build great without being SUPER extreme, but the reason I chime in is because I am glad to hear everyone talking about this. We are a self regulated industry, I hear this all of the time and rarely see it in action. We are the only ones that can help teach, protect and support each other in a society where most everyone outside of us is looking for a reason we should be gone. That means we have to be proactive in sharing the knowledge and experience we have had to protect ourselves and our industry by not allowing ourselves to get into an unsafe situation, even if we believe it won't happen to us.
I was in a shop the other day and one of the builders came up to me with one he had just finished rocking 20 gauge on a short wrap-I asked him what is reading was-his response "I don't know...low" and then he lit that sucker up. This is the type of thing that scares the crap out of me-
My sentiment is that whether you believe a mech will vent or explode or not doesn't make a difference, we are careful because we do not want to add any fuel to the fire of the organizations out there that want us out and that means taking every precaution for the just in case.
As a side note-I have never vented (I have lost fingerprints, had mods light up on their own-user error, pin fell out, and shorted) so I know they can burn-that seems like ages ago as now that I have seen it I will take every precaution to avoid the things I know can happen

 

[DC2]

Obviously he wants to be a statistic when he grows up.

Now that's funny!

 

[tj99959]

I still want someone to devise a way to get a fantastic vape at one watt, instead of one hundred watts.

 

[xcrazydx]

I still want someone to devise a way to get a fantastic vape at one watt, instead of one hundred watts.

Neither one of those will get you a fantastic vape.

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[Baditude]

I guess one of the things I wondered, when I made this thread, is mods blowing up seems like they would be headline news worthy to perpetuate the fear. I've been looking at the new members forum for the first time since I joined a few days ago until now. It seems like.... with all the people not understanding this, it seems like there would be more incidents, but there doesn't seem to be, because I would think they would be front page in light of the regulations. My wording wasn't intended to be hostile... My point was just, some people are getting told off here, which is good. But for every 1 that's told here, there must be another 10 who don't know right?...wouldn't like it to be more common, I just thought Maybe the guy was right. And if he was, then why do people on here act like it's more of a safety risk. But I understand more now.

Just maybe it DOESN'T happen is because those of us veterans have been able to caution newcomers of the potential dangers before a catastrophe happens. A little bit of prevention can go a long way.

 

[tj99959]

Neither one of those will get you a fantastic vape.

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Yes I know, now get to work and devise a way for one watt to do it.

My point is that we spend all our time working on ways for more watts to do it, instead of trying to find ways to do it with less watts. That defies logic IMO, the desire should be for greater efficiency not less efficiency.
Juice & battery manufacturers LUV sub ohmers $$$$$$$$$

Many on here quit smoking because it got to expensive, and now they want to make vaping as expensive as possible. .......... SMART ...........

 

[xcrazydx]

Yes I know, now get to work and devise a way for one watt to do it.

My point is that we spend all our time working on ways for more watts to do it, instead of trying to find ways to do it with less watts.

It's not possible. Lol. I don't spend any time trying to increase watts anyways. That's for the cool kids. I'm just enjoying being smoke and dip free. I get plenty of flavor and vapor with "low power" (by today's standards)

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