I thought you were concerned about the viscosity of your eliquds and that's why other posters suggested diluting them with a little DW. If you're not concerned and everything is working fine, please disregard our suggestions.
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I thought you were concerned about the viscosity of your eliquds and that's why other posters suggested diluting them with a little DW. If you're not concerned and everything is working fine, please disregard our suggestions.
Ammit rda by Geekvape is a great mtl attie with superb flavour.
I think the Zenith is 24.7mm and the Zenith D22 is 22mm.
Unless you find a super duper deal on a kit, there's no real reason not to buy separate. Get what you want. I think the Zenith D22 should work fine on the Pico 75W.
I do like the Pico 75w. I don't have the Zenith since I prefer rebuildable atomizers. If you are capable of wrapping a wire around a screwdriver to make a coil, then you might want to buy a rebuildable atomizer like the Doggystyle 2k16. A rebuildable can be fine tuned to your individual preferences. And it's cheap. If I made a new coil and wick every day for a year, it would cost me less than $12.
- Zenith tank 24mm can fit on top of Pico 25 mod (85 Watt)
- Zenith D22 tank can fit both Pico 75 and Pico 25 mods
Some more info.
Armour Pro + Drizzle: H 122, D 27, W 38.5 (Approx)
EUC-MTL: Ceramic 1.3 ohm, Traditional 1.4 ohm (both rated 9 to 13 watts).
Pico 75 kit: H 111.5, D 23, W 45 (Approx)
Ec coils: Highest ohm are .75. Info linked below.
Eleaf EC Atomizer Heads x 5
So for battery life the Armour Pro wins outright, due to having to use less watts to heat the coil and due to 21700 battery allowing more capacity than an 18650 which pico 75 uses.
Also check Zophie Vapes review on YouTube, she uses the kit though which comes with Cascade baby tank. But it'll help working out the size of the mod.
Armour Pro + Drizzle: H 122, D 27, W 38.5 (Approx)
EUC-MTL: Ceramic 1.3 ohm, Traditional 1.4 ohm (both rated 9 to 13 watts).
Pico 75 kit: H 111.5, D 23, W 45 (Approx)
Ec coils: Highest ohm are .75. Info linked below.
Eleaf EC Atomizer Heads x 5
So for battery life the Armour Pro wins outright, due to having to use less watts to heat the coil and due to 21700 battery allowing more capacity than an 18650 which pico 75 uses.
Also check Zophie Vapes review on YouTube, she uses the kit though which comes with Cascade baby tank. But it'll help working out the size of the mod.
I don't really see the Armour Pro as winning. It depends what you want. If you want a mod as HUGE as the Armour Pro, then there are lots of other good mods that size to consider. If you want a small and cheap but very reliable mod, then it's difficult to beat the Pico 75 without sacrificing on size or price.
I wouldn't want to use the atomizer that comes with the kits. I would buy the mod separate and get a RBA like the SXK Doggystyle. If you don't want to wrap your own wire coils then you might buy the Zenith D22.
Pico 75:
70.5 x 45 x 23
The atomizer will sit a little lower since the 70.5 is the height of the battery and the 510 connector is lower.
Armour Pro:
86 x 38.5 x 27
smoked25years, certainly agree on rebuildables.
Zenith is more airy compared to Drizzle, also Drizzle coils are lower ohms which means less watts used to reach vaporization temperatures.
And my measurements included tanks as well, not just mod. Difference in height is only 11mm.
Zenith is more airy compared to Drizzle, also Drizzle coils are lower ohms which means less watts used to reach vaporization temperatures.
And my measurements included tanks as well, not just mod. Difference in height is only 11mm.
If you buy a kroma-a kit it comes with a passable mod. It’s a bit smaller than a pack of cigarettes but for that size you get a lot of mah and the thing should go all day and then some without needing recharging. It’s an internal battery mod with a MicroUSB2 connector so it takes a while to recharge and the port is delicate but it works fine.
I am PG sensitive (not allergic) and can handle about 10% no more. But, I have vaped 100% VG in many a MTL tank frankly, including a tiny little Nautilus 2. The key is priming like hell. and not chain vaping.
I also use PE400 in my mixes and I like it, it's a flavor carrier like PG, it is thicker viscosity than PG, but still a bit thinner.
I use that 40% plus 50% VG and 10% flavors (vg, pg, whatever I'm using.) It has been nice, I find flavor carrying properties to be useful and it's still a lovely vape for me that feels great, tastes better (IMHO all VG mixes taste, not bad but kinda well muddy. Muted.
Do your due diligence obviously Nic River carries it rather cheaply. I did mine and found nothing wrong so you may want to give it a look...
I would think the zenith would be best for your purposes, but I was successfully able to use 100% VG in a whole BUNCH of MTL tanks. The coils may not last AS long, but you have options if you treat your tanks right.
Anna
I also use PE400 in my mixes and I like it, it's a flavor carrier like PG, it is thicker viscosity than PG, but still a bit thinner.
I use that 40% plus 50% VG and 10% flavors (vg, pg, whatever I'm using.) It has been nice, I find flavor carrying properties to be useful and it's still a lovely vape for me that feels great, tastes better (IMHO all VG mixes taste, not bad but kinda well muddy. Muted.
Do your due diligence obviously Nic River carries it rather cheaply. I did mine and found nothing wrong so you may want to give it a look...
I would think the zenith would be best for your purposes, but I was successfully able to use 100% VG in a whole BUNCH of MTL tanks. The coils may not last AS long, but you have options if you treat your tanks right.
Anna
Not entirely true. Your statement appears to imply that less watts conserves battery life. If we are talking about battery life, lower resistance coils require higher voltage/watts, sure, but draw more amps (current) from the battery due to less coil resistance.
Lower Ohm Coils Will:
- Heat The Coil Faster
- Produce More Vapor
- Drain The Battery Faster
- Use E-Juice Faster
- Produce A "Warmer" Tasting Vape
- Heat The Coil Slower
- Produce Less Vapor
- Provide A “Cooler” Tasting Vape
- Use Less E-Juice
- Prolong Battery Life
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Baditude, that's what I meant. The Aspire coils top out at .75 ohm and the Vaporesso top out at 1.4 ohm (1.3 for the ceramic stainless).
@Baditude – If discussing fix voltage and or mechanical devices I would agree with your statement. However, in a VW device the batteries are blind to the resistance of the coil and their drain rate will be determined by power output and the efficiency of the device itself. Although the Battery Drain tab within Steam Engine is based on best estimates, we can see that changing the resistance has no effect on battery usage with a VW device assuming the same power is applied.
Also when dealing with a VW device, the comparison of high vs low resistance coils is a little more complex for the user dictates the output of the device therefore dictates juice consumption, heat and battery drain.
If power is a fixed factor I can see how in most cases a lower resistance coil can be hotter, consume more juice and battery. But we adjust power to our preferred style of vape which is usually how hot or cold the draw is. This would mean the Heat Flux now becomes the fixed factor and in doing so the opposite takes place in where a lower resistance coil consumes less and requires less power for the same dimension coil of higher resistance. Of course there are many, many variables and incidents that can sway the outcome to one side or the other.
I'm sure @Mordacai meant Zenith uses less watts to reach desired temperature.
They don't require lower voltage/watt? ( voltage per watt )
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Unaware of the properties of the Aspire coils or what they are being compared to, but to give an example of resistance not being a influencing factor in power therefor battery life.
Set a Heat Flux goal of 200 mW/mm squared. This is a warmish vape. Heat Flux is a measurement of radiant heat.
26 awg Kanthal with a 3mm ID
Of course there are many other variables should we start changing the gauge of the wire but mass still becomes the influencing factor in all cases.
Set a Heat Flux goal of 200 mW/mm squared. This is a warmish vape. Heat Flux is a measurement of radiant heat.
26 awg Kanthal with a 3mm ID
- 1ohm = ~7 wraps and will require 23 watts to achieve the desired Heat Flux. Mass = ~81mg
- 0.5 ohms = ~3 wraps and will require 11 watts to achieve the desired Heat Flux. Mass = ~40.5mg
- 0.5 ohms with 2x parallel 1ohm coils equals ~7 wraps each and will require 45 watts to achieve the desired Heat Flux. Mass = ~162mg for both coils.
Of course there are many other variables should we start changing the gauge of the wire but mass still becomes the influencing factor in all cases.
Resistance is like friction. The lower it is, the harder you have to work to generate heat.
steam-engine.org has a battery drain calculator that you can use to estimate continuous use or total run/usage time.
Battery drain | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
steam-engine.org has a battery drain calculator that you can use to estimate continuous use or total run/usage time.
Battery drain | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
Yes, I mentioned Steam Engine above. Resistance will have a impact on battery drain with a fixed voltage or mechanical device. Lower the resistance with a fixed voltage, more current is drawn therefore more power and faster battery drain.
But in a Variable Wattage device, the battery does not see the resistance of the coil – it only see’s what the regulator chip is requesting of it. Within Steam Engine choose a Regulated Device (APV), choose a fixed wattage setting and if you wish set your preferred mAh. Steam will give you a run time. Keeping all the same settings now adjust the resistance value. Run time does not change.
Mass has more of an impact than resistance.
If we choose to build a 1ohm coil we have an almost infinite way of achieving that resistance.
A high gauge wire will equate to lower mass therefore require less power to achieve a desired temperature.
A low gauge wire will equate to higher mass therefore require more power to achieve a desired temperature.
Both examples use the same resistance but have a vastly different outcome.
Correct but in terms of vaping where our preference is to reach a desired temperature measured as Heat Flux, resistance can remain the same with mass dictating the needed power output
Using 1 ohm as a target lets model 2 coils with Kanthal (the metal is irrelevant) with a desired Heat Flux of 200 mW/mm square. The Heat Flux will remain fixed for this is a common goal among users.
With 30 awg wire we arrive at 1 ohms with only 12.6 mg of mass. To reach the noted Heat Flux we only need 6 watts. Battery drain is minimal.
With a 24 awg wire we arrive at 1 ohms with 205 mg of mass. To reach the noted Heat Flux we require 45 watts. Battery drain is much greater.
Resistance is a static perimeter, mass changed and so does the power output therefore mass has more of an influence.
I=√P/R for example,we have 1Ω resistance and a vw device set at 100 w,therefore: I=√100/1=10 A
I=√P/R now we use 0.1 Ω resistance,same mode/wattage therefore: I=√100/0.1=31.6 A
The lower the resistance,the more amperage draw from battery.
The more ampers "puled",the bigger the voltage sag of battery.
V=RxI so, voltage sag=internal resistance of battery x I therefore for a 0.1 Ω resistance: V=RxI equals V=0.020 mOhms x31.6A=0.632 V ( voltage drop )
4.2 V-0.632 V=3.568 V (this is the operating voltage)
Go to Steam Engine, Battery Drain,Battery voltage, set 3.568 V and look the amount of increase of Ampers for
0.1Ω resistance.
Battery Voltage Window isn't automatic,you need to set the value for operating voltage.
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