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Spread the word. This is exactly what is going on.
Spread the word. This is exactly what is going on.
Moonport Press Release: How the FDA will ban electronic cigarettes
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Big Jim--I would not call that "Ranting"---to the contrary, I would call that, telling it like it is. And you are right--most people sit back these days and take whatever is thrown at them at face value.
I can not tell you how much garbage I have gotten from family and friends in the last 4 days since this FDA attack was started that "what you are doing is just as bad as cigarettes---I saw it on the news"
People, the news is not news--it is "magazine" tablot style slanted stories.
Good job Big Jim
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I can not tell you how much garbage I have gotten from family and friends in the last 4 days since this FDA attack was started that "what you are doing is just as bad as cigarettes---I saw it on the news"
People, the news is not news--it is "magazine" tablot style slanted stories.
Good job Big Jim
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I agree with Sun on this one. I don't think it's a rant but more of telling it like it is.
Is America not supposed to be the land of the free??? And as far as your 3 things go. 1. The FDA is a joke 2. All american media is sold out, if you're ever looking for real news you have to watch foreign channels (i'm referring to programs like oreilly factor) 3. Kids will always want things they see, analogs "aren't marked" to kids yet they still want them, people just want to control us all these anti smoking groups are bull ****. No one actually cares about our healthy or anyone else's health, it's all about control and money.
Absolutely true! You have to read other country's papers to find out what's really going on in the USA
I hear ya there. Just the other day after this sudden FDA "revelation", one of the supervisors where I work mentioned it after it was blown out on the news. I asked her "I guess the first thing you thought of when you saw that was me", and she said "Yes".
The interesting part was, as she also smoked as well, she knew darn well what the real deal was going on.
The real interesting part about all of this is that eventually, people will really see what is going on and it will eventually destroy the FDAs credibility in terms of protecting the health of the American people. They will be eventually known as a government agency that supports a known killer and does everything it could to remove safer alternatives that could be possibly saving peoples lives.
What I hope will happen in the end is we will sit back 5-10 years down the road and realize we were living in a very interesting time in history. For the first time, an invention was made that could very well save MILLIONS of lives, and we, as a society, allowed governments to stifle it simply because of lost money.
The sad part to it all is, what I said in this video, we, as the real people, who KNOW what is going on, have NO way to spread this truth to the American people. But the FDA, and their million dollar pockets, can "herd the news media cattle" in a moments notice to blind society to the truth.
Only time will tell.
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That is to true. It's to bad there isn't a PD in one of those news stations or an editor for a major news outlet isn't willing to step forward to present the truth. It was once thought that journalism was the pursuit of knowledge and truths that are proven. The FDA's tox report reminds me of something I heard a while back.
"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." - Gin Rummy aka Samuel L Jackson The Boondocks.
The FDA is following that statement with text book prefection.
I lived in Texas for 7 years and I honestly had no idea what was going on around the world during that time period. Once I moved to Ireland its like my eye's were opened, everyone around me was highly aware of global events and educated on them. American news channels are just entertainment, its not really a news delivery system. Anyway I hope bigjim will keep posting his videos elsewhere even if youtube is trying to remove them, because they give a real perspective on events.
Hi Big Jim, I totally agree. Our government is sooo biased against "smoking" tht it is getting out of hand. There are a few that chose smoking as their "dragon" and by golly they are gonna kill it, and they use whatever means that they can find to do this. Anything that mimics smoking is going on their agenda.
Much of the news is reported to get ratings, pure and simple. If we had tons of money we could probably get a favorable news report for e-cigs. I take much of it with a grain of salt.
Much of the news is reported to get ratings, pure and simple. If we had tons of money we could probably get a favorable news report for e-cigs. I take much of it with a grain of salt.
I agree BigJim. How can they be marketed to kids? If a kid wants to hide a nicotine addiction from a parent what do you think is easier and more appealing?
a.) An e-cig ordered over the internet (credit card required) for 70 or more dollars + future maintenance. Then using the damn thing that has a BIG LED light on the end and is very visual.
b.) Gum or Lozenges bought at the local store. Coming in candied flavoring. Tucking it in your mouth where it can't be seen but supplies the nicotine while no one else is the wiser. (it's candy FFS!)
c.) A 5$ pack of smokes - you know the rest.
a.) An e-cig ordered over the internet (credit card required) for 70 or more dollars + future maintenance. Then using the damn thing that has a BIG LED light on the end and is very visual.
b.) Gum or Lozenges bought at the local store. Coming in candied flavoring. Tucking it in your mouth where it can't be seen but supplies the nicotine while no one else is the wiser. (it's candy FFS!)
c.) A 5$ pack of smokes - you know the rest.
So true. I was raised in Florida and lived my adult life in Texas. It wasn't until I started working in Asia before I saw some of the toe-curling hypocrisy we mitigate inside our own borders and out towards the global community.
To be honest, the rest of the educated world looks at news from the states and wonders what asinine, ......ed s**t we will come up with next. And this week the FDA gave them their justification.
The fact that the FDA and every other governing body is going after the for the kids route with the flavorings, it's amazing that the only ones who really understand this is us. It's more then likely due to the amount of media attention that it's getting but come on. Why is it that every other outlet goes after the e-cig for it's flavoring but not that of NRT's or alcohol even? It boggles the mind to see something this simple being overlooked by millions outside the vaping community.
I agree, the media sold out to their highest ideological god, I get most of my news from the web but that takes a lot of work and time to do they job they can't, won't and are unwilling to do. We used to have reporters, now we have either comentators or propagandist. Disgusting in that a free society REQUIRES honest and complete news to function, we are SO *ucked...
And they may be biased against smoking but if it is so utterly horrible why isn't it just flat illegal and banned? Answer: draw a money flow diagram, the political elite is terminally addicted to the $$$$.
Frigging arrogant two face *astards.
Elections DO INDEED have CONSEQUENCES....
And they may be biased against smoking but if it is so utterly horrible why isn't it just flat illegal and banned? Answer: draw a money flow diagram, the political elite is terminally addicted to the $$$$.
Frigging arrogant two face *astards.
Elections DO INDEED have CONSEQUENCES....
It's really not possible to sell these to kids. First is the costs involved. Especially the ones selling at the mall for a exorbinant price. I doubt little Junior will be walking into the mall with close to $150.00 in his pocket
Plus the Internet requires credit card for purchases, and obviously kids do not have credit cards.
Remember folks, who read this, the "think of the children" angle is used as a BIG tool to get people turned away, which is why they keep harping on it. Realistically, selling an e-cig to a child is pretty much next to impossible just as much as selling the real things to them. This excuse is just lame.
For a good example of how the FDA works, google how Aspartame got approved! It'll make you wonder what Donald Rumsfeld is up to these days....
Check out FSTV (Free Speech TV) Dish Channel 9415 for non-corporate owned perspective.
Check out FSTV (Free Speech TV) Dish Channel 9415 for non-corporate owned perspective.
This is the exact point that I made in another thread. I cant imagine any kid that I know buying an e-cig on the internet. So, lets say they did, how are they going to keep up the maintainence? They will need more juice, and more attys. How long do you think the equipment is going to last for them?
I see you live in Korea, what kind of US news do you hear??
I totally agree!!! I have 2 kids and 5 grandkids. The youngest grandkids are 10. They save their money for video games, clothes and my oldest is saving for a car. The are soooo dead set against smoking and have told me so since they were old enought to talk!!
Most kids today do NOT think smoking is cool so I really cant imagine them even being interested in buying one, just too cost prohibitive. My grandkids have been curious because I am doing it, but think it is great that I am not smoking.
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Where I live, the teenage smoking rate is really high. When my younger brother(17) became aware of me vaping, he only asked me about it and thought it was a great idea because he saw that I wasn't smoking anymore-- which he hated that I did to begin with. I know a lot of his friends smoke analogs, and a few have seen me using a 901. You should see the looks they gave me
. Marketed to kids? They thought I was an old man for using something as "lame" as that!I asked my brother what his friends had told him about it. They all thought it was "weird looking". Not one of them asked how they could get it or anything else about it. If we are marketing these things towards kids, we sure aren't doing a good job at it!
Kids only want to smoke cigarettes because it is bad for you, and because adults do it and you aren't allowed to until you are 18. It seems cool because the older kids are all doing it and by smoking they are being rebellious. When I was in high school there was nobody chewing nicorette gum or slapping their parents' nicoderm patches on their arms...
E-cigs are a loooong way from being "cool" in the eyes of our youth today. If you want to market them to kids, just make claims about how bad they are for you and put BIG warnings on them
Kids only want to smoke cigarettes because it is bad for you, and because adults do it and you aren't allowed to until you are 18. It seems cool because the older kids are all doing it and by smoking they are being rebellious. When I was in high school there was nobody chewing nicorette gum or slapping their parents' nicoderm patches on their arms...
E-cigs are a loooong way from being "cool" in the eyes of our youth today. If you want to market them to kids, just make claims about how bad they are for you and put BIG warnings on them
And this is exactly why we will never get rid of smoking altogether. Just like when one waits for their 21st birthday to get their first beer, there will always be kids waiting for their 18th birthday to pick up their first pack of smokes.
PM will always have a customer base. They made sure of that.
But we still market to "kids". That's what the gobernment is telling the sheeple. The sheeple believes everything the gobernment tells them.
Its little wonder the US is an international joke. The US *USED* to be a leader, a country willing to take a chance on advancement (moon landing anyone?). Now, we're nothing more than a banana republic that has cable TV.
Sad, but true.
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