Moonport Press Release: How the FDA will ban electronic cigarettes
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Me too, Sun. My phone rang all day on Thursday. I finally just turned it off
Ohh Queen it is a nightmare--I was out tonight and there was so much garbage being thrown around that I hit the road. Now "vaping" is no longer an interesting think to talk about---
Rather ---"worse the a cigarette" and "get rid of that thing around me--it is antifreeze you are blowing in the air--poison!!"
I swear, if the media told people that the sun would not rise tomorrow---many would believe it.
Sun
Queen...Nice to see you here....You wouldn't belive all the hype I've had to deal with,just at work,with this news of our untimate demise from vaping...Mostly from analog uses!...My wife took about 2 minutes to understand this is a media attack with no solid ground to stand on...and continues to support me with my alternative to smoking!Me too, Sun. My phone rang all day on Thursday. I finally just turned it off
The Wiz!
Sun...I had one fellow at work ask me to "Blow into his car radiator" earlier today...LOL
The Wiz!(I hope the "Sun" rises again tommorrow my friend!)
Sun...I had one fellow at work ask me to "Blow into his car radiator" earlier today...LOL
Wiz--the Sun will surely rise tommorrow---and so will a bunch of e-mails to NJOY to release their studies showing the product is clean---this sitting on it is garbage.
Sun
Sure, e-cigs might be too costly for your average kid at the moment, but, like any new technology, they're bound to get cheaper and cheaper and easier to maintain as consumer demand continues to grow - which it will if the FDA doesn't ban them. Once you can get a decent reusable e-cig for around $20, the argument is lost.
If these PV's didn't work, there wouldn't be any hoopla about them.
And New Zealand finally gets word of what's going on here, which is interesting cause it's coming from a country with NO alterior motive
Row breaks out over safety of e-cigarettes
Every time you take a drag on a cigarette you breathe in 4000 toxins
Sat, 25 Jul 2009 4:39p.m.
New Zealand researchers are clashing with US health officials over a new anti-smoking aid, after a world-first trial was run by Auckland University.
The US Food and Drug Administration wants the electronic cigarette banned, but experts here say it does more good than harm.
It looks like the real thing, puffs out a mist that looks like smoke and most importantly, it provides the nicotine kick that smokers crave - but the e-cigarette has one big difference.
"They're not going to die from an e-cigarette," says Dr Murray Laugesen. "But they could die tomorrow from a heart attack due to their smoking."
The FDA, which regulates medical products in the US, isn't so sure. It says its tests found cancer-causing chemicals in e-cigarettes and wants them banned from sale until more studies are done.
"What's remarkable actually is the lack of evidence that these products are any better than standard smoking cessation treatments, and secondly the inadequate testing for their toxins," says Dr Michael Thun, American Cancer Society.
Auckland University has run the first ever trial of the e-cigarettes. It looked at withdrawal symptoms after using one compared to a nicotine inhaler and a regular cigarette.
Researchers can't reveal the results until they are published in a medical journal, but they told 3 News the FDA is getting unnecessarily alarmed over one ingredient - propalene glycol. It is a chemical used in antifreeze, and can be seen drifting across the stage at rock concerts - but there is no evidence it is harmful.
But that's not all.
"The carcinogens that we have found have been in very, very small quantity, just above the level of detection," says Dr Laugesen.
In contrast, every time you take a drag on a cigarette you breathe in 4000 toxins.
At this stage, New Zealanders have to go online and import e-cigarettes, but Dr Laugesen would like to see them more readily available here and says he would not hesitate to recommend e-cigarettes to anyone wanting to quit.
3 News
And New Zealand finally gets word of what's going on here, which is interesting cause it's coming from a country with NO alterior motive
Row breaks out over safety of e-cigarettes
Every time you take a drag on a cigarette you breathe in 4000 toxins
Sat, 25 Jul 2009 4:39p.m.
New Zealand researchers are clashing with US health officials over a new anti-smoking aid, after a world-first trial was run by Auckland University.
The US Food and Drug Administration wants the electronic cigarette banned, but experts here say it does more good than harm.
It looks like the real thing, puffs out a mist that looks like smoke and most importantly, it provides the nicotine kick that smokers crave - but the e-cigarette has one big difference.
"They're not going to die from an e-cigarette," says Dr Murray Laugesen. "But they could die tomorrow from a heart attack due to their smoking."
The FDA, which regulates medical products in the US, isn't so sure. It says its tests found cancer-causing chemicals in e-cigarettes and wants them banned from sale until more studies are done.
"What's remarkable actually is the lack of evidence that these products are any better than standard smoking cessation treatments, and secondly the inadequate testing for their toxins," says Dr Michael Thun, American Cancer Society.
Auckland University has run the first ever trial of the e-cigarettes. It looked at withdrawal symptoms after using one compared to a nicotine inhaler and a regular cigarette.
Researchers can't reveal the results until they are published in a medical journal, but they told 3 News the FDA is getting unnecessarily alarmed over one ingredient - propalene glycol. It is a chemical used in antifreeze, and can be seen drifting across the stage at rock concerts - but there is no evidence it is harmful.
But that's not all.
"The carcinogens that we have found have been in very, very small quantity, just above the level of detection," says Dr Laugesen.
In contrast, every time you take a drag on a cigarette you breathe in 4000 toxins.
At this stage, New Zealanders have to go online and import e-cigarettes, but Dr Laugesen would like to see them more readily available here and says he would not hesitate to recommend e-cigarettes to anyone wanting to quit.
3 News
Sure, e-cigs might be too costly for your average kid at the moment, but, like any new technology, they're bound to get cheaper and cheaper and easier to maintain as consumer demand continues to grow - which it will if the FDA doesn't ban them. Once you can get a decent reusable e-cig for around $20, the argument is lost.
Not true, kids aren't looking to get addicted to nicotine. They are looking to rebel and do what adults say they shouldn't. The price argument doesn't hold much water to me. My girlfriend's nieces, who are aged 10 and 9, both have cell phones and so do most of their classmates. A lot of kids have computers, 300 dollar video game systems, and $50 tanks of gas to fill. The fact is, e-cigs aren't being marketed to kids and kids wouldn't want them anyway.
BigJimW you rock!!!!
I can't watch the videos at work, but when I get home I try to check out all of your stuff. You are 100% dead on on everything you post IMO. Just got off work, would like to say more, but too tired. Keep up the good work!
I can't watch the videos at work, but when I get home I try to check out all of your stuff. You are 100% dead on on everything you post IMO. Just got off work, would like to say more, but too tired. Keep up the good work!
^^^I work grave-yard at a Hotel, so I'm on all night puffing my e-cig in the lobby rubbing my feet!lol
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I was just going to bed, going thru my itunes and happened to stumble across one of my all time favorite songs, Todd Rundgren "Real Man". Maybe I'm just tired but I thought it would fit in nicely.
What these people who are posting these YOUTUBE video's (BIG JIM) need to start doing, is in the description on the right hand side where they explain there video (Not the above description), put in POPULAR names of people, events, places, top-searched products, so that when anyone searches for these things/people/products there video pops up in the crowd!
The search engine on youtube works off of whatever you put in the description located on the right side of the screen, not only the titled description. You guys that just put "e-cig, this is how yadayadayada"" in your descriptions your gonna keep getting only 500 views per month, and most of them will be from us, the people that know about these things already!
Do what I said and watch your views GROW, BIG-TIME!!!
The search engine on youtube works off of whatever you put in the description located on the right side of the screen, not only the titled description. You guys that just put "e-cig, this is how yadayadayada"" in your descriptions your gonna keep getting only 500 views per month, and most of them will be from us, the people that know about these things already!
Do what I said and watch your views GROW, BIG-TIME!!!
I've never posted anything on youtube but yeah - you need more tags. I'm not sure but do you get to select tags? add health, alert, news, ecig, e-cig, nicotine...I'm sure there are more.
Anyway, thanks for posting this videos! Keep spreading the word!
Anyway, thanks for posting this videos! Keep spreading the word!
Well I'm new to vaping and so far the only one I know who's doing it. And I can get unusually rude with other people when they decide what is best for me.
So I do enjoy telling "reformed smokers" who say I should quit that they got it wrong. I tell them it's like the good old days and they should start back up again
Or I just might tell them I got some analogs left over in my car and they are welcome to have one if they think it is safer
Dave (just another wise guy)
cigarettes kill more people a year than terrorists, but the government will go to war on the device that might save us.
i dont think i can ever be a patriot again.
i dont think i can ever be a patriot again.
"What's remarkable actually is the lack of evidence that these products are any better than standard smoking cessation treatments, and secondly the inadequate testing for their toxins," says Dr Michael Thun, American Cancer Society.
Why does it matter that they are not any better than standard smoking cessation treatments? If the others supposedly "work" why does the ecig have to be better?
I want my ecig - I want to vape - I have tried to stop smoking at least a dozen times using "standard smoking cessation treatments" and didn't make it. I have not had a cigarette in almost 3 months - that is the longest period of time that I have gone without a cigarette since I started smoking. So just who the hell decided that the ecig is no better than other treatments?
Why does it matter that they are not any better than standard smoking cessation treatments? If the others supposedly "work" why does the ecig have to be better?
I want my ecig - I want to vape - I have tried to stop smoking at least a dozen times using "standard smoking cessation treatments" and didn't make it. I have not had a cigarette in almost 3 months - that is the longest period of time that I have gone without a cigarette since I started smoking. So just who the hell decided that the ecig is no better than other treatments?
I'd like to see a cross fire televised debate between any of the FDA talking heads and Dr. Seigel, Dr. Nitzkin, or Matt Salmon.
What about cleaner? What about less and shorter cigarette breaks at work--or even no cigarette breaks at all?
As far as being less dangerous to my health, I intend to be the judge of that in six months--when I take another breathing test! If I do better than last time, I'll be vaping for the rest of my life, even if I have to get on a plane to China...
Dave
As far as being less dangerous to my health, I intend to be the judge of that in six months--when I take another breathing test! If I do better than last time, I'll be vaping for the rest of my life, even if I have to get on a plane to China...
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