I've only ever bought "packs" of heads that, with a shipping charge of $102932.09 (which is utterly stupid, I'm now refusing to buy from any vendor that charges over $3 for shipping), ends up being around $15. It's sad on my wallet....
More faulty products are out there than you know!
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Havent had any issues with Kanger heads personally. I purchase them from Ebay vendors as well as several local vapor shops.
Where are you ordering from? Places like discount vapors, 101 vapes, mt baker and Hoosier are really well priced. Personally, I don't go to b&m's. The shops in my area are overpriced, poorly staffed and prey on ignorant customers.
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Incorrect, the t3s heads are backwards compatible, so that's not the issue. The head was shorted out so it would've done the same thing in a t3s. The t3 is the model that builds the head into the base, not the t3s. Pt/evod heads won't screw into the tank on a t3s, but the reverse is fine. In fact kanger has changed the design on the pt/ evod heads to be the same as the t3s. So , to conclude: manufacturer defect, not operator error.
A mechanical mod applies a slowly decreasing direct current voltage through the life of the charge. As the voltage drops, the vape quality changes for the worse.
With a variable voltage/wattage mod, the voltage delivered to the atomizer can be controlled and can stay at the same level for the charge life of the battery. This is done by pulsing the atomizer with short bursts of voltage that appears to the user as a steady heat level that produces the desirable vape.
This is accomplished by a "buck circuit" that lowers the voltage to the desired level and/or a "boost circuit" that can provide an equivalent voltage that is higher than the voltage level of the battery. As the battery drains, the boost circuit keeps the vaping voltage at a constant level until the battery reaches a preset voltage, usually 3.2v to 3.4v. Then, the mod reports "low battery" and forces you to change the battery or it just stops operating. It's possible for a battery at 3.5v to produce an equivalent pulsed voltage up to 6v. Lots of battery heat is generated either in the mod circuit or the battery itself in accomplishing this, but the user experience is that the vape stays much the same throughout the charge life of the battery.
All this is done by short pulses with rest periods in between the pulses. Your AC wall outlet produces a sine wave at 60 transitions per second. The actual voltage can reach about 215v at the positive peak and -215 volts at the negative peak, passing through zero 60 times per second. It's a sine wave.
A VV/VW mod produces more of a square wave signal with on time and off time adjusted to produce an average voltage level equal to the voltage you dialed in, approximating a DC equivalent output.
For what it's worth ..
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You can boil Hemp til the cows come home. Only thing will turn it white is Bleach. Hemp, Natural=Brown
Sorry, but anyone that spends money like you claim and has nothing but problems has one of 2 problems.
Never ask for Help or cannot understand usage.(and never ask for help)
Yes, I have probably spent 4-5x what Op has. Not due to failures but per Adventure.
I still have my Kanger T-2 tanks from 15 months ago. Both pristine and one with the original Wick.(other I damaged while cleaning and replaced) Fact is, unless I broke it, I have no had a truly defective piece of equipment to Date.
Wish I could say the same about e-liquids.
Sorry, but anyone that spends money like you claim and has nothing but problems has one of 2 problems.
Never ask for Help or cannot understand usage.(and never ask for help)
Yes, I have probably spent 4-5x what Op has. Not due to failures but per Adventure.
I still have my Kanger T-2 tanks from 15 months ago. Both pristine and one with the original Wick.(other I damaged while cleaning and replaced) Fact is, unless I broke it, I have no had a truly defective piece of equipment to Date.
Wish I could say the same about e-liquids.
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not to be rude (really, I'm not),,,,,,,
but if you're the guy that the restaurants ALWAYS get something wrong on,,,,,,,
maybe you're a little too picky?????
again, not being rude,,,,,,I'm also really picky on some stuff, and at some point, I just have to totally buy that the issue is me,,,,,,,,not them.
but if you're the guy that the restaurants ALWAYS get something wrong on,,,,,,,
maybe you're a little too picky?????
again, not being rude,,,,,,I'm also really picky on some stuff, and at some point, I just have to totally buy that the issue is me,,,,,,,,not them.
the quality control in china is as good as any where in the world.
the problem in china is you get what you pay for.
replicating products is the norm in china.
it up to our suppliers here in the states to make sure the branded products there getting
are original.
kangor,vision,iclear to mention a few are good reliable product made to high quality standards.
the cheaper branded knock offs are intended for the chinese market.
what happens is when the chinese markets get bloated with too much of a product it
gets dumped onto the international market.
your supplier gets a call from a distributor selling (insert brand name here) at this cost per 100,and
at a nice lower price point than usual.
well there you go.
the chinese are very good salesmen.the chinese consumer is still learning.
when they start getting annoyed paying they're hard earned money on shoddy
products then things in china will start changing immensely.
dont underestimate the chinese expertise in manufacture.
they hand machined the first silent propellers for there nuclear subs to tolerances of 1/10000 of an inch.
totally freaked out our intelligence agencies who thought you needed a quarter of a million dollar lathe
to do it.thats over 20 years ago dollars.(just a side note:they were exact knock offs of our propellers)
regards
mike
the problem in china is you get what you pay for.
replicating products is the norm in china.
it up to our suppliers here in the states to make sure the branded products there getting
are original.
kangor,vision,iclear to mention a few are good reliable product made to high quality standards.
the cheaper branded knock offs are intended for the chinese market.
what happens is when the chinese markets get bloated with too much of a product it
gets dumped onto the international market.
your supplier gets a call from a distributor selling (insert brand name here) at this cost per 100,and
at a nice lower price point than usual.
well there you go.
the chinese are very good salesmen.the chinese consumer is still learning.
when they start getting annoyed paying they're hard earned money on shoddy
products then things in china will start changing immensely.
dont underestimate the chinese expertise in manufacture.
they hand machined the first silent propellers for there nuclear subs to tolerances of 1/10000 of an inch.
totally freaked out our intelligence agencies who thought you needed a quarter of a million dollar lathe
to do it.thats over 20 years ago dollars.(just a side note:they were exact knock offs of our propellers)
regards
mike
Oh my god. 
so many things to comment on and not nearly enough time or space.
I just wanted to address a remark made about Vivi Nova's. I've been using these since October of last year and have purchased many replacement heads in packs of 5. I have never once had one that was DOA. If you don't screw the head Firmly onto the post, that could cause you to think that the head is dead. I use a towel to screw them on VERY tightly to the post. That ridge of metal hurts! I've never gotten a dry hit from them either. Maybe the Nova was built perfectly for my style of vaping or maybe I've learned and become very adept at figuring out the Nova. I can tell exactly when the head needs replacing if I get lazy and just keep filling the tank instead of cleaning. When the coils get too gunked up, they no longer have the capability of vaporizing the liquid properly and there will be minor leaking out the bottom onto the battery and/or gurgling.
I just don't know what to say to the OP so I'm going to just
so many things to comment on and not nearly enough time or space. I just wanted to address a remark made about Vivi Nova's. I've been using these since October of last year and have purchased many replacement heads in packs of 5. I have never once had one that was DOA. If you don't screw the head Firmly onto the post, that could cause you to think that the head is dead. I use a towel to screw them on VERY tightly to the post. That ridge of metal hurts! I've never gotten a dry hit from them either. Maybe the Nova was built perfectly for my style of vaping or maybe I've learned and become very adept at figuring out the Nova. I can tell exactly when the head needs replacing if I get lazy and just keep filling the tank instead of cleaning. When the coils get too gunked up, they no longer have the capability of vaporizing the liquid properly and there will be minor leaking out the bottom onto the battery and/or gurgling.
I just don't know what to say to the OP so I'm going to just
Oh my god.
I just wanted to address a remark made about Vivi Nova's. I've been using these since October of last year and have purchased many replacement heads in packs of 5. I have never once had one that was DOA. If you don't screw the head Firmly onto the post, that could cause you to think that the head is dead. I use a towel to screw them on VERY tightly to the post. That ridge of metal hurts! I've never gotten a dry hit from them either. Maybe the Nova was built perfectly for my style of vaping or maybe I've learned and become very adept at figuring out the Nova. I can tell exactly when the head needs replacing if I get lazy and just keep filling the tank instead of cleaning. When the coils get too gunked up, they no longer have the capability of vaporizing the liquid properly and there will be minor leaking out the bottom onto the battery and/or gurgling.
I just don't know what to say to the OP so I'm going to just
I think you hit the nail on the head. And I think you're on to something,it's all about vaping style. I've never gotten anything but dry hits from clearos. I think it's the way I vape. I'm not about to play around with rebuilding, so I just don't use them.
China really has no quality control. Before I switched to rebuildables, I used a ViVi nova. The very first head I popped in shorted. Battery got hot. I rebuilt it and now it fires fine.
I would just rebuild my own. Play it safe.
I would just rebuild my own. Play it safe.
Ekowool is a brand name. it is not much different in composition from the silica (SiO2)wicks we get from China, major difference is in its wicking ability due to capillary action as it is woven rather than twisted and has a better wetting/wicking action.
something called "planned obsolescence" that goes into the majority of our everyday use items. maybe they are planning too early.
there are simple miniscule changes that would make heads last twice as long. their cheapo wire cant really be that much cheaper.
there are simple miniscule changes that would make heads last twice as long. their cheapo wire cant really be that much cheaper.
I use 2.5ohm coils at 3.2-3.5v, anything above that tastes burnt to me. That's using a Twist clone or a SvoeMesto Semovar with an original Kanger Protank with original coils.
Personally, I don't see how everyone else uses such high voltages with low resistance, maybe the OP is like me, needs to dial things right down.
Personally, I don't see how everyone else uses such high voltages with low resistance, maybe the OP is like me, needs to dial things right down.
I know I certainly dont like bottom coil devices. I found the flavor way too muted for me. Even with brand new authentic heads. Even when I recoiled them myself with cotton. I just could not get what I desired out of that design. The PT and evods and MT3 as well as a few brand new in the package coils are sitting in the back of my vape drawer.
As far as an epidemic of faulty products, eh...I doubt it.
I dont like the idea though that to get the kanger products to 'really work' one needs to recoil, rewick, stand on their head and sing 4 songs under the light of a harvest moon(okay, that maybe an exaggeration. lol)
I do think though, that you OP, for some reason, just cant be happy with something. I dont know, but every post I have seen from you has been a negative, complaining type of post. I really have not seen you post anything positive about anything. So while I partially agree that there are some issues with some designs, I think also a big part of your problem is your own self doubt or self negativity you need to apply to situations. Try thinking positive.
As far as an epidemic of faulty products, eh...I doubt it.
I dont like the idea though that to get the kanger products to 'really work' one needs to recoil, rewick, stand on their head and sing 4 songs under the light of a harvest moon(okay, that maybe an exaggeration. lol)
I do think though, that you OP, for some reason, just cant be happy with something. I dont know, but every post I have seen from you has been a negative, complaining type of post. I really have not seen you post anything positive about anything. So while I partially agree that there are some issues with some designs, I think also a big part of your problem is your own self doubt or self negativity you need to apply to situations. Try thinking positive.
I'll repeat: The problem for me has never been something as simple as experiencing a "so-so" vape experience. I think anyone would feel negative when hundreds of dollars worth of products taste like acidic charcoal on the very first vape. It usually makes me almost puke to my stomach. I've had the best luck with the Aspire, and the strange thing was, with that, that instead of acidic charcoal, the thing didn't taste burnt, but tasted just dry and weird, very salty or oily (then again, I did not wash or boil my heads - could have been a problem.) The Aspire even gave me very stomach-churning dry hits after a little testing, though.
I'll also repeat: Yes, several vendors have backed me up in saying that there is a WAVE of faulty heads that immediately burn up going around the vaping industry - Kanger, Innokin, all of them have sent out extremely bad batches to vendors that I personally know and trust. I don't care what anyone says here, that's the information that I've received, and that's the description that matches my heads perfectly
I'll further repeat: No, I'm not doing anything wrong with my devices. If you want to accuse me of doing something wrong, please, pay like $600 for plane tickets and $200 for a motel, travel to where I live, help me out, and if you see that I'm performing some sort of black magic curse on my devices to purposely give negative reviews, then hey, you'll catch me in the act. Until then, either nut up or shut up. I've asked for help several times in this forum, no one wants to reply to my posts asking for help. Rarely does anyone actually know what they're talking about, and even less do the people who know what they're talking about even answer my original questions without trying to dance around facts.
My current stance on my products either is: A. There is something terribly wrong with both of my batteries, or B. I've simply been given a wave of recent bad heads, or C. There is just something terribly wrong with my juice across multiple companies.
There's no other explaination. I keep my battery at 3.3V's, I try to keep my coils around 2.5 (unless the device just doesn't have anything equal or higher), I use very thin juice, the thinnest I can find, I use 0mg (to make sure that nicotine isn't what's giving me a sour, acidic vape), I use the chargers that come with the battery and only in the wall, I let my tanks soak for HOURS, I do a billion primer puffs before every hit, I use air flow controllers if I feel the draw is way too loose for suction, I make sure my pins are connected very well, and I clean my tanks with distilled water. I've also proven, in my tests, that draw strength makes no difference, and different people say different things work better, when I've proven that nothing virtually makes any difference. I do have a naturally extremely soft draw though, so it's not that, and disposable e-cigs vape just fine for me - they'd burn up too if my draw was really just too strong, which it's not. I have jaw problems that even prevent me from inhaling inward very strong, my mouth suction is not the best, but adequate for vaping.
One theory, which is proven right by one member of this thread, is simply that half of the people on this entire forum work in vaping shops, and want to claim that all vaping devices are perfect so that they don't loose business. These people shouldn't even be allowed on this forum anywhere but on vendor's forums, but until they nut up enough to actually state where they work, we can't do anything about it. Otherwise, I don't believe a single person who says they've never gotten a burnt taste out of a device or a dry hit. But then again, some of these same people are using the same head for months and in that case, it sort of strikes me that some of these people may not be playing with a full deck of cards. After a few months, a coil is going to look like a charcoal briquet no matter what you do - and it's going to taste like one too. If you've smoked two packs a day for 56 years and you vape tobacco juice, maybe you like the taste, but I don't.
I'll also repeat: Yes, several vendors have backed me up in saying that there is a WAVE of faulty heads that immediately burn up going around the vaping industry - Kanger, Innokin, all of them have sent out extremely bad batches to vendors that I personally know and trust. I don't care what anyone says here, that's the information that I've received, and that's the description that matches my heads perfectly
I'll further repeat: No, I'm not doing anything wrong with my devices. If you want to accuse me of doing something wrong, please, pay like $600 for plane tickets and $200 for a motel, travel to where I live, help me out, and if you see that I'm performing some sort of black magic curse on my devices to purposely give negative reviews, then hey, you'll catch me in the act. Until then, either nut up or shut up. I've asked for help several times in this forum, no one wants to reply to my posts asking for help. Rarely does anyone actually know what they're talking about, and even less do the people who know what they're talking about even answer my original questions without trying to dance around facts.
My current stance on my products either is: A. There is something terribly wrong with both of my batteries, or B. I've simply been given a wave of recent bad heads, or C. There is just something terribly wrong with my juice across multiple companies.
There's no other explaination. I keep my battery at 3.3V's, I try to keep my coils around 2.5 (unless the device just doesn't have anything equal or higher), I use very thin juice, the thinnest I can find, I use 0mg (to make sure that nicotine isn't what's giving me a sour, acidic vape), I use the chargers that come with the battery and only in the wall, I let my tanks soak for HOURS, I do a billion primer puffs before every hit, I use air flow controllers if I feel the draw is way too loose for suction, I make sure my pins are connected very well, and I clean my tanks with distilled water. I've also proven, in my tests, that draw strength makes no difference, and different people say different things work better, when I've proven that nothing virtually makes any difference. I do have a naturally extremely soft draw though, so it's not that, and disposable e-cigs vape just fine for me - they'd burn up too if my draw was really just too strong, which it's not. I have jaw problems that even prevent me from inhaling inward very strong, my mouth suction is not the best, but adequate for vaping.
One theory, which is proven right by one member of this thread, is simply that half of the people on this entire forum work in vaping shops, and want to claim that all vaping devices are perfect so that they don't loose business. These people shouldn't even be allowed on this forum anywhere but on vendor's forums, but until they nut up enough to actually state where they work, we can't do anything about it. Otherwise, I don't believe a single person who says they've never gotten a burnt taste out of a device or a dry hit. But then again, some of these same people are using the same head for months and in that case, it sort of strikes me that some of these people may not be playing with a full deck of cards. After a few months, a coil is going to look like a charcoal briquet no matter what you do - and it's going to taste like one too. If you've smoked two packs a day for 56 years and you vape tobacco juice, maybe you like the taste, but I don't.
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I'm so shocked the boards aren't full of people screaming about this influx of faulty heads.
That's because half the people on this forum work in (dishonest) vendor shops. It gets pretty obvious after awhile. I've had completely different attitudes and information given by vendors who are trustworthy and give me the facts straight up.
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