More faulty products are out there than you know!

[DanG]

A bit off topic, I was at my local vape store. He has not been open all that long. I was complaining about how my wifes new eGo died even before putting a tank on it. He replied he would love to show me the box of eGos in the back he had that were bad but he can't lift it.
More on topic, the wife and I both use clearos, evods to be exact. She uses them exclusively. I use mine when I want a different flavor, it usually lasts a few draws then I put it away for later. I buy coils, use them, then they get re-built with 2mm eko-wool or stainless. I really have never had any problem with any new coils. But that said, I also do a resistance check, dry burn, and wet burn to make sure I don't get any surprises.

 

[DanG]

Well the first problem I see right there is T3s heads aren't designed for PT/EVOD bases and vice versa.

Good catch!!!!

 

[DanG]

Well the first problem I see right there is T3s heads aren't designed for PT/EVOD bases and vice versa.

Now you sit back and wait for the call to be Kangers customer service manager.

 

[Sucker_dad]

I think I lost a few IQ points after that reading.

 

[heroinesick]

I don't ever rewick my own things ( health issues make it super difficult for me.. I do plan on trying again, though.) so I've always bought my replacements for my protanks and evods.. however, I have never, EVER had a faulty head that just did NOT work. They always taste a bad to me if I don't soak them in hot water first, and too light if I don't remove a flavor wick, but other than that, no issues whatsoever. Weird that other people are having issues

 

[Alter]

I agree with opening up the head and having a look at it to see the 3 wrap-space-3 wrap coil setup kanger produces inside their heads. IMO this is a crappy way to wrap heads cause the middle space doesn't vaporize the juice just heats it up to burn, and shortens their lifespan. Quality control is non extistant so its up to you.
-Use a pin to make all the wraps the same distance apart like learning some DIY.
-Slide a pin through the stock coil and lift it up will help stop some of the metallic taste from having a bent leg and make realigning the coil wraps easier. Make sure the coil wraps are all the same height, a single high coil wrap is what gives you a harsh back of the throat hit along with wraps touching each other gives you the metallic taste.
Look at the positive insulator..is it whitish rubber or a clearish opaque silicone looking. If its silicone looking then you have the new heads that come in the box kits and I assume they are in all the new kanger products and they are CRAP, they are real soft and squish real easy thus blocking off airflow if tightened a bit much and they get real soft and slick when they are wet with juice making them squish super easy. Fix for that is to pull the positive pin out a bit and the insulator also to reround the insulator. You have to do this with every time you remove the kanger atty from the PV. I have some blister packs and they are the whitish rubber ones so I don't even use the heads that come with the box.
Replacing the stock flavor wick with a bigger one that goes past the openings from a cutoff of a old top coil atty or silica onhand helps with gurgling and flooding issues.
This is just a few DIY things you can easily do to give yourself a better perspective on how there is no quality control in atty heads and give yourself a much better vape experience.

I've been rebuilding my own coils for several months now and once you've learned to rebuild, your vape experience will be at its best...Just ask my wife cause she has no idea of metallic taste nor a dry hits.

 

[Myrany]

5 boxes of kanger coils and I have had ONE bad coil. Shorted.

5 x 5 packs of generic fasttech evod coils -> every one of them needs rebuilt before use. Bad taste, shorted, poor wicking from over tight coils you name it. Not a big deal to me since I am able to rebuild them easily enough. Makes them not a total waste but still a pain.

I am wondering if the OPs supplier isn't claiming Kanger when they are in fact cheap knockoffs.

 

[NiburianElf]

Maybe we need some made-in-the-USA mass produced coil heads here. Who wants to work in the coil factory? haha

In terms of trusting China with our health, this topic is starting to freak me out. No one has vaped long enough to know if silicosis can occur from vaping these cheaply made products. Silica particles never leave your lungs. Do metals come off of the kanthal / SS ? There really is no way to influence China other than not buying their products. I am wanting to switch to a RBA asap ...

I am not fear-mongering in any way, but since when is intelligently considering things in a logical manner deemed fear-mongering. It seems as if stupidity is worshipped in modern society, as thinking about something just takes too much effort. People tend to not want to accept truths that will inconvenience their current comfortable lives.

This little rant is not directed toward anyone on this thread, just my general observations.

If we are going to take steps to improve our health via not smoking, why half ... it?

 

[JulesXsmokr]

seemed like the OP started the rant..
Vaping is still new, the bad products will get weeded out of the picture, it'll take a little time, unless the gov't. gets its hand on it. Then it will go nowhere..

 

[Asbestos4004]

You would think as long as you've been complaining about these heads, and your "ÿears and years of vaping experience" , you would move on to something that actually fits your vaping profile. I've heard a few complaints about factory heads but not that many. There seems to be an overwhelming number of Protank, Kanger and Aspire users on this forum who are quite satisfied. Is it that their taste isn't as refined as yours? Why the vendetta? Find something that works for you. You are seemingly going out of your way to hammer a company because you don't like their stuff. Quit buying it before you have an even greater financial disaster. By a Boge carto and an IBTanked tank...or better yet, buy a Kayfun. Buy once, rebuild it until the end of time. It takes about 5 minutes.

 

[Susan W.]

So how many heads have you had to buy? I have no idea what your financial situation is but even replacing heads every other day is cheaper than buying cigarettes. If I had the same amount of issues, I'd try another delivery system as my frustration level would trigger way before buy heads led me to financial disaster.

Anyways, I have no experienced the same thing as you. I have yet to have a head be faulty. I do buy genuine Kanger Protank heads and yes, they should work just fine out of the box which I think they do. I do rebuild but that's only because I'm cheap and I can.

 

[H. Hodges]

It's strange how this forum hasn't been awash with posts about this widespread and dangerous new phenomenon.

The UFO's came in the 40's and 50's, Nam in the 60's and 70's, Global cooling in the 70's/80's, the Middle East 90's/2000's, and my 3 kids the last 15 years; You mean there's a new phenom to worry about?

 

[Ref Minor]

The UFO's came in the 40's and 50's, Nam in the 60's and 70's, Global cooling in the 70's/80's, the Middle East 90's/2000's, and my 3 kids the last 15 years; You mean there's a new phenom to worry about?

Does your sarcasm detector need recalibrating or mine?

 

[Rocketpunk]

This reminds me of people who used to come into our restaurant and complain about everything and say that every time they came in something horrible went wrong with their order, every single time.

Then why come back?!?!

 

[CommaHolly]

I find it difficult to believe that EVERY SINGLE head had problems,,,,,,,,,seriously.

I think I've only bought about 5 boxes of heads at this point,,,,,,,,but NONE of them had problems.

an abnormally high failure rate I could buy,,,,,,,,but not 100%.

 

[carrielsal]

Simply sliding the original Kanger wicks out and sliding in a new wick is probably going to be more difficult that necessary with anything other than cotton. The Kanger heads are wound pretty tight around the wick, and it's a pretty small piece of silica they use. I suppose you could try to use 1mm silica or ekowool (Do the even make ekowool in 1mm?EDIT: YES, according to that lightning vapes link provided above​ ), but I've found that if you want to rebuild a Kanger head with something other than cotton, it's probably best just to re-coil the thing with some Kantal around your wick of choice (check out a couple of youtube videos, it really only takes about 5 minutes to re-wick and re-coil the whole head after you have some practice at it).

I recently learned how to build micro-coils for my Protanks and make my wick from organic cotton. My goal was to save money buying coils, I have found that I like this so much better than the original coils. I have new coils on order, and I'll probably rebuild the coils without even using the original coils first.

BTW, I have never had a failure on a new coil.

 

[tj99959]

Damn, now I remember why I quit using clearos.

You guys need to go back and read some of the old CE2 threads on ecf. This is nothing new.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I recently learned how to build micro-coils for my Protanks and make my wick from organic cotton. My goal was to save money buying coils, I have found that I like this so much better than the original coils. I have new coils on order, and I'll probably rebuild the coils without even using the original coils first.

BTW, I have never had a failure on a new coil.

I actually don't use anything with these heads anymore...I like my Kayfun and some gennys...Ithaka...lately it's been great vaping! I do have some EVODs and some Protanks that I've givin to my wife. She's not so much of a tinkerer...she recently made the switch, no more smokes and exclusively vaping. It cost me one of my ProVari's and an IBTanked tank but so worth it to see her not smoking! After hearing so much complaining (from the same person) about these heads, I decided to do some experimenting. I put a new head in a Protank 2 and vaped it. It wasn't bad at all...not great but not bad. Then I pulled the head apart and built a micro coil using .28 ga kanthal and a cotton wick. 10 wraps came out to 1.6 ohms...I was shooting for 1.8. Soaked the wick, put it back together and was blown away! An excellent vape! Great taste, lots of vapor and 5 whole minutes invested. Maybe 30 cents worth of materials. I liked it so much, I rebuilt a bunch of EVODs. I tried one on a stick battery....perfect. So, not only were they "not too bad" from the factory, they quickly became excellent with very little work. I'll take one of those little guys with me for a really good back up.

 

[Zealous]

This is very strange. Sorry the OP is having so many problems. Me personally, I have never had any heads be bad right off the bat. In fact, I think I"ve bought 30 heads ever (including cartos) during my time vaping & only 8 of those are bad now & that is from normal use. As a rule, for me the heads have lasted longer than my interest in using that particular tank (lol) which accounts for the fact that I have unopened startdust heads & vivi nova heads. That irritates me so when I switched to evods I never bought extra heads. I finally "needed" 1 extra just so I could clean the one that came with the tank. So now I have 2. They've lasted me like more than 2 months and neither are bad yet.

But I do not buy knock offs of these so maybe that's why I haven't had bad luck with this. idk

 

[Bawn]

i think kanger is probably the #1 culprit of this. out of 100 heads tried and used by myself over the last 8-11months (protank heads) i would have to say after using these heads for sooooo long they are about at a 80% fail rate. so 80 out of 100 don't wick right (with or with out top wicks) dry hits, short lived, coils aren't wrapped right, poor flavor, no throat hit etc. i think that is absolutely unacceptable. the vivi nova is no better. they also have a very high failure rate. i have gotten the odd head for the vivi that just so happens to vape perfectly and no tilting is required, the wicks do their job and i try and keep that head pristine so it lasts a few weeks. vivi nova has about the the same failure rate as the kanger heads.