Most Economic Setup

[carldamnit]

How is everyone on a Thursday night?

I am still really new to this, 12 days without an analog, and I am definitely interested in keeping this new found hobby (habit) to one that doesn't get out of hand financially.

I had tried the cheap cigarette look alike a year or so ago, but the whole time i smoked it I still wanted an analog, and would follow sessions using it with an analog. My daughter dragged me down to a vape shop and got me to purchase their kit. I thought my experience was going to be the same as before. Boy was I wrong, I wound up with 2 eGo 1000mAh batterys and 3 vision clearomizers. These people knew what they were doing. This setup has been the one I find the most enjoyable (closest to analog smoking).

I started doing research online, which is how I found you guys, and it has opened up all sorts of options. After lots of reading, I thought I would try some different things. I purchased some Kangar T3's as they seemed to be a popular option that is inexpensive. With my fixed voltage battery it was terrible (most of you see where I am going LOL) It was very airy with poor vapor production. To remedy this I purchased 2 eGo 1000mAh Twist batterys. This made the T3 come to life, It goes through more e-juice for the same satisfaction though.

I also purchased the eGo-C tank set. This looked to be something more durable for work. From my experience so far, it goes easier on the e-juice than the T3 but doesn't have the throat hit or flavor (fixed voltage battery) that I get from the Vision clearomizers. I am definitely going to keep using the tank set as it will last longer at work.

So to my question. What setup do you have that uses the least juice (consumables) for the best results?

Thanks!

 

[Baditude]

Have you tried direct dripping on an atomizer? E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

You can also do some research into a bottom feeder box mod like the Vmod or Reo. Do a search on You Tube.

 

[ScottP]

You can try the Vision Mini Vivi Nova's with the metal tanks for great durability.
MINI Vision Vivi Nova Tank System - Metal Tube

Sometimes for convenience and portability I still use standard metal cartomizers on my eGo-T 650mAh battery (fixed voltage). It can be nice to just fill up a hand full of cartos and go.
Boge 5pc LR 510 Cartomizer XXL - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

Both of the above solutions are metal so they can withstand any juice (so you don't have to worry about your juice cracking the tank) as well as being dropped.

 

[Orobas]

To me, vivi novas seem to do pretty good in terms of economical juice usage, though yes, dripping will stretch those drops out considerably. Something like this from fasttech is probably your cheapest option, though there will also be some investment required in wick and coil https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...ectronic-cigarettes-round-mouth-solid-liquid-

It may also be more economical to simply buy cheaper juice, if you don't feel like learning to rebuild an atomizer yet.

The cheapest options that I am aware of are:
Azure Vaping Home (though they appear to be closed right now)
https://www.ecblendflavors.com/ (use code 10020 for 20% off at checkout)
Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes, USA made E Juice, and Accessories

Of course, mixing your own juice is the cheapest way to go, but that's a whole nother can of worms.

 

[bazmonkey]

I subscribe to the "more vapor = more juice" idea. I don't see how a device could make more vapor without using more juice (where does it get the vapor from?), or less vapor without using less juice (where did the juice go?).

Like you said yourself, the voltage you run your device at is what determines if it's going to be a juice hog or not. Some may have better airflow and be able to go through more without burning. But either way, if you go through 1mL of juice, you get the same nicotine in your body. Maybe it took more or less time to do it, or maybe once it gets too strong it's harder to appreciate and it seems like the device "wastes" juice, but it's still the same effect. Unless you're leaking juice, 1mL of it will make x amount of vapor. Tinker with the voltage (you've got twists, after all) to adjust how quickly.

So, all ecigs are really just as "efficient" in that sense. What matters is how quickly it produces vapor ("more vapor" is really just vapor produced in a shorter time). I don't think you're going to find a more "efficient" device that gives you the same quality vapor, because the "inefficiency" is actually the part that you like.

 

[ScottP]

Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes, USA made E Juice, and Accessories

Just thought I would add that you can get 10% off at MBV with code "vaporfrombaker".

 

[Orobas]

what bazmonkey says is true, but dripping makes you more mindful of your consumption versus filling a clearomizer and forgetting about it, is the point i was making.

 

[Butters78]

Lmao I love how fasttech says solid liquid atomizer for some products. I got my ry4 in the ice cube tray all ready for my health keeping set! Ha

 

[ScottP]

Yeah I have said it before and I'll say it again. I am NOT fluent in "Engrish"

However I DO like reading it sometimes:
Engrish.com

 

[BigBaby]

However I DO like reading it sometimes:
Engrish.com

Haha that site is hilarious, I just looked through 10 pages.

 

[Bosco]

When you're ready, visit the DIY ejuice sub forum here. It's a lot of fun and you won't believe how much you'll save on juice. Mine costs me less than 5 cents per ml. So, naturally, all my setups are geared toward using more (and creating more vapor) vs less.

Direct dripping with a 2ohm atty on ego twist makes my juice last the longest, tho.

 

[chellemmm]

Novas are juice "hogs!"

 

[Robbieadams25]

Ego twist with either a Viva Nova or IMO Kanger Protank

 

[Dakota Jim]

Yep, I am trying to be frugal (ok, cheap) also, I got into DIY almost at once, and rebuild the heads on my vivi nova's, evod's and protanks.

diy juice is about $.15 per ml, rebuilding heads is about $.10 and takes about 5 minutes for coil and wick (I make about 5 at a time and then only need to clean and dry head - install new coil and wick ( about 4 minutes)- test for shorts on spare base from backups (5 turns of kanthal 32 is a consistent 1.9 ohm using the machine screw method - 3/48) - prime wick, fill, and go (grimace on the 1st 5-6 hits on cotton wicks until they break in and then are great)

 

[vernhall]

If you're looking for the most bang for your buck a Vamo system seems to be the way to go at the moment... Either cheapest vamo mod vv vw starter kit or $44.79 Vamo-Vivi Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with TrustFire US battery charger/charger cable/2*TrustFire 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping have great prices on their basic Vamo kits... No atomizers are included, but both have a good variety to choose from depending on your preference...

Fasttech may be the actual winner in this, though I prefer VaporBreak, because their charger and batteries are a step or two above VaporBreak's and they offer free shipping... The advantage you get with a Vamo, in addition to it being VV/VW, is that it uses standard batteries that are easily and cheaply replaced when they wear out... $3-$4 a pop vs $18-$20... And the Vamo is a beast!! Well made and rock solid!

As far as the atomizers go I prefer an RBA around the house and a mini-vivi for out and about... Though the metal clad versions, as stated above, do give you more durability...

 

[volume control]

Get an Evod, its much better than the T3.

 

[xpackaday]

A lot of people including myself that get the Kangar T3 have problems, its still a very good unit. I bought the Kangar EVOD, it the best I have had and about the same price, but only hold about 1.8 ml. Kangar pro is also a very good unit, but in the $20 price range and much bigger.

 

[tj99959]

First question that I would have is do you mean Most Economic Setup short term or long term?

IMO most economical is a PV that will last for years (even if it costs more), RDA's that will last for years (even if they cost more), and DiY e-liquid (even if it costs more to get started)
At this point it costs me less than 5 cents/day to vape, but I had to spend a little up front for that to become possible.