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[Stoneface]

My evods & protanks give better flavor & th than my Igo L & My RSST. why?

Both are good builds, Igo w/30ga & 3mm @ 1.5 ohm, RSST with 400 mesh and 30ga @ 1.8 ohm

same wattage, tested with butterscotch & cake (yellow) - evods beat both

....

It might be airflow. Since the coils for eVods and ProTanks are set directly centered so that the air must flow around the coil, it might make for a tastier vape. I found it tough to get the airflow reliable and adequate in the RSST. Once I learned to set a micro coil on long legs directly in front of the air hole on the IGO-L (thanks to the micro coil masters), it's been all good since

But it might not be an airflow secret...just my guess

 

[moresalt]

^^^+1

Airflow is probably the biggest factor, but also if your coils are spaced too far apart from each other that will affect flavor also...unless you've wrapped a micro or nano coil. If that's the case then it's gotta be airflow.

Edit:another thought is what device are you using these on and at what voltage/wattage settings? Evods and protanks work best at say, for example, 6.5W or between 3.9 & 4.1V (with a 2.5 ohm head). An IGO and especially an RSST need to have much more power, upwards or 9-12 W or better. I'm using an IGO-L with a micro coil at 1.8 ohms (11/12 wraps of 28 ga) laying on a bed of cotton (not through it) and I get a lot of flavor between 11-12 watts, or 4.4-4.6V.

 

[Ta2ooz]

My evods & protanks give better flavor & th than my Igo L & My RSST. why?

Both are good builds, Igo w/30ga & 3mm @ 1.5 ohm, RSST with 400 mesh and 30ga @ 1.8 ohm

same wattage, tested with butterscotch & cake (yellow) - evods beat both


Here's some hair & Hendrix from Slash & Zakk. I'm a bigger Zakk fan but Slash owns him here

EDIT - I changed my mind. On second play I think Zakk outplays him.
Some of the flubbs I thought that Zakk played look like Slash's the second time around.
That's not really fair. No flubbs, just like Zakks riffing better and I think he outplays Slash here
The sound sucks and sometimes focuses on the wrong technician

I hear ya. I have tried a few different ones including a genny(which I broke the friggin glass on screwing around) and I have nimbus. I hate I clear 30's and 16's. And even the pro tanks don't give the same performance as the evods?? Now with dusaty's new vertical coil it's even better.

 

[kelli]

i love when you guys talk all techie mechanicallie stuff. i have no clue what you are saying!

vapid

 

[Stoneface]

i love when you guys talk all techie mechanicallie stuff. i have no clue what you are saying!

vapid

That's okay...I notice that you've been drinking the same drink for hours now!

 

[moresalt]

i love when you guys talk all techie mechanicallie stuff. i have no clue what you are saying!

vapid

Should I let her in on the secret?? All we do is throw a bunch of techno jargon out there and none of it makes any sense to anybody. That way people who don't know think we're real smart when in fact I can't find my shoelaces much less tie them.

Edit:what was that we're supposed to add....dolphin?

 

[kelli]

Should I let her in on the secret?? All we do is throw a bunch of techno jargon out there and none of it makes any sense to anybody. That way people who don't know think we're real smart when in fact I can't find my shoelaces much less tie them.

that's exactly what i thought! mission accomplished

 

[Stoneface]

Should I let her in on the secret?? All we do is throw a bunch of techno jargon out there and none of it makes any sense to anybody. That way people who don't know think we're real smart when in fact I can't find my shoelaces much less tie them.

Edit:what was that we're supposed to add....dolphin?

....and the ones who do know realize we're not that smart after all!

 

[kelli]

....and the ones who do know realize we're not that smart after all!

well ya'all are a lot smarter than me, cause i couldn't come up with even half that stuff you talk about.

 

[Stoneface]

well ya'all are a lot smarter than me, cause i couldn't come up with even half that stuff you talk about. View attachment 268522

Not really, I just spent more time reading somewhere else about coils You have your own charms, and they work for you so don't sweat it

 

[Mowgli]

^^^+1

Airflow is probably the biggest factor, but also if your coils are spaced too far apart from each other that will affect flavor also...unless you've wrapped a micro or nano coil. If that's the case then it's gotta be airflow.

Edit:another thought is what device are you using these on and at what voltage/wattage settings? Evods and protanks work best at say, for example, 6.5W or between 3.9 & 4.1V (with a 2.5 ohm head). An IGO and especially an RSST need to have much more power, upwards or 9-12 W or better. I'm using an IGO-L with a micro coil at 1.8 ohms (11/12 wraps of 28 ga) laying on a bed of cotton (not through it) and I get a lot of flavor between 11-12 watts, or 4.4-4.6V.

I was double & triple hitting the RSST on my vamo at 7w. No wonder.
I just tried it at 11w and there's more flavor but a lil burnt. Single hits work but smack smack yup kinda burnt.
and that's where hot spots come into play right?
PITA thing

 

[moresalt]

I was double & triple hitting the RSST on my vamo at 7w. No wonder.
I just tried it at 11w and there's more flavor but a lil burnt. Single hits work but smack smack yup kinda burnt.
and that's where hot spots come into play right?
PITA thing

Just like everything else in this hobby there's a sweet spot. It might not be 11W for you for that juice. Hot spots can cause a burnt flavor but I've always found them to taste a bit metallic. Did you dry fire your coil on your RSST? You can also try taking the cap off and tilting the juice away from the wick and fire it 3-4 times to see if you get a hot spot. Sometimes hot spots will show up with juice on the wick but they're easier to find when it's dry....and yes the first time and finding what to look for is a royal PITA. But, once you get a good coil it will be worth it. Although I use still use protanks, I have 3 RSSTS, 1 AGA-T2, 3 IGO-L, and 1 IGO-S and just got a kayfun lite to play with. Ok, I admit I may have a problem.

 

[Stratman]

I have 3 RSSTS, 1 AGA-T2, 3 IGO-L, and 1 IGO-S and just got a kayfun lite to play with. Ok, I admit I may have a problem.

My name is Moresalt and I'm an RBAlcholic!

 

[moresalt]

Is there a 12 step program for that?

 

[Stratman]

Is there a 12 step program for that?

I sincerely hope not...those 12 step programs bring religion into everything

 

[mcol]

Men go in the corner, and talk about your technical stuff.
Us women will go in the other corner. Hey Kelli, tried any good juice lately?

 

[mcol]

Do you color coordinate your set up Kelli? I tend to lean towards blues and pinks.
I think those look good, don't you?

Just teasing you guys!

 

[Stratman]

Men go in the corner, and talk about your technical stuff.
Us women will go in the other corner. Hey Kelli, tried any good juice lately?

The proteasome refers to a collection of complexes centered on the 20S proteasome core particle (20S CP), a complex of 28 subunits that houses proteolytic sites in its hollow interior. Proteasomes are found in eukaryotes, archaea, and some eubacteria, and their activity is critical for many cellular pathways. Important recent advances include inhibitor binding studies and the structure of the immunoproteasome, whose specificity is altered by the incorporation of inducible catalytic subunits. The inherent repression of the 20S CP is relieved by the ATP-independent activators 11S and Blm10/PA200, whose structures reveal principles of proteasome mechanism. The structure of the ATP-dependent 19S regulatory particle, which mediates degradation of polyubiquitylated proteins, is being revealed by a combination of crystal or NMR structures of individual subunits and electron microscopy reconstruction of the intact complex. Other recent structural advances inform us about mechanisms of assembly and the role of conformational changes in the functional cycle.

 

[DustyZ]

Men go in the corner, and talk about your technical stuff.
Us women will go in the other corner. Hey Kelli, tried any good juice lately?

Oh, so that is what they are calling it now-a-days huh!

 

[DustyZ]

The proteasome refers to a collection of complexes centered on the 20S proteasome core particle (20S CP), a complex of 28 subunits that houses proteolytic sites in its hollow interior. Proteasomes are found in eukaryotes, archaea, and some eubacteria, and their activity is critical for many cellular pathways. Important recent advances include inhibitor binding studies and the structure of the immunoproteasome, whose specificity is altered by the incorporation of inducible catalytic subunits. The inherent repression of the 20S CP is relieved by the ATP-independent activators 11S and Blm10/PA200, whose structures reveal principles of proteasome mechanism. The structure of the ATP-dependent 19S regulatory particle, which mediates degradation of polyubiquitylated proteins, is being revealed by a combination of crystal or NMR structures of individual subunits and electron microscopy reconstruction of the intact complex. Other recent structural advances inform us about mechanisms of assembly and the role of conformational changes in the functional cycle.

Yeah, what he said!