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I've been vaping 5 days. I make a living off my palate though. Does it take awhile to develop a vaping palate?
Evod is a day old and on its 3rd fill.

No, it just takes a while for your tastebuds to recover from smoking. Many people require more intense flavors at first. You'll likely find your palate for food and beverage begins to evolve over the next few weeks or months as well.
 

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If you've been a smoker and recently quit, your palate will change. A lot of things change in the first few months of vaping. You could go from "vapor tongue" (palate not working at all - no flavor in anything) to everything tasting completely different. A lot people find that after quitting analogs for a couple of months, they can't eat spicy food - it's too strong all of the sudden. Smoking really messes up your palate. It takes time for that to recover.

If your EVOD is only on its 3rd fill, I would assume its ok. If you start getting a burned taste all the time (not just once or twice) it's time for a dry burn on the coils. If you are using really dark or sugary juices (Hawk sauce is not) you need to rinse and dry the heads more often. If could also be that the Hawk Sauce needs to steep and develop more.

So many possibilites, lol.

I've been vaping 5 days. I make a living off my palate though. Does it take awhile to develop a vaping palate?
Evod is a day old and on its 3rd fill.
 

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I'm vaping hawk sauce out of an evod right now. Taste is very faint. I like what i'm getting, but want more flavor. Is it usually a very gentle favor?
Not for me, but I'm not usually vaping it from an Evod. The flavor can also depend on the resistance of the clearo and the battery powering the clearo. Try a lower resistance clearo or Evod head, that might help a bit. Your tastebuds might also be telling you that you need a flavor shot the next time you order it. Additionally, if it is a new bottle, try it again after a week's steeping. Hope this helps :)

EDIT: Clearly, I'm late to this party :facepalm:
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Still a noob here but I have gone through about 100 pages of this thread and I am still confused.....

After reading the reviews of juice from MBV, I ordered Creme de Menthe, Butterscotch, Jamaican Rum and Vanilla Tobacco.

I understand that steeping is a "to-taste," thing, but are there recommendations of which should be steeped and for how long?

Thanks!
 

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My hawk sauce gets dark when I'm vaping it. It turns a little darker than a nickle color for me, 236ml with 5 shots, out of a protank with 2.5 heads. Every now and again I get really weak hits or minimal flavor I usually just unscrew the protank to get some air, and wipe down the head that's in it. If that doesn't work I dry burn the head, and if that doesn't work I throw the head into a glass of over-proof liquor to eventually get a more thorough cleaning or rebuilding. Hope you are able to get more flavor from your hawk sauce, mine tastes like now and later candies and is one of my all day vapes.
 

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Still a noob here but I have gone through about 100 pages of this thread and I am still confused.....

After reading the reviews of juice from MBV, I ordered Creme de Menthe, Butterscotch, Jamaican Rum and Vanilla Tobacco.

I understand that steeping is a "to-taste," thing, but are there recommendations of which should be steeped and for how long?

Thanks!
You will get a variety of answers to these questions. As a general rule for me, the more complex the flavor, the longer it needs to steep. Tobacco flavors are notorious for needing a long time to steep (2 weeks or more). Simpler flavors require less steeping, along with mints and menthols. Of course, this is all my own opinion and it will be different for everyone. The amount of flavoring added (flavor shots), PG/VG mix, and nic content can all affect steeping as well. Unfortunately, I have not vaped any of the flavors that you ordered, so I am particularly unqualified to guide you specifically...
 

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Still a noob here but I have gone through about 100 pages of this thread and I am still confused.....

After reading the reviews of juice from MBV, I ordered Creme de Menthe, Butterscotch, Jamaican Rum and Vanilla Tobacco.

I understand that steeping is a "to-taste," thing, but are there recommendations of which should be steeped and for how long?

Thanks!

Creme De Menthe is good right off the bat, and doesn't change much with steeping, if at all.

Butterscotch, depending on how you ordered it, may be OK fresh, but it's best to let that one steep at least a week, preferably 2-3 at least.
 

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When you say "two weeks steeping" you mean I should leave it capless for two weeks in my cabinet? Or should I just let it sit after the recommended 24-48 hours without the cap on?

I just don't have a ton of space my cat can't get into lol... so I mean I'm steeping all these flavors at once I worry that in two weeks of being capless with each other the flavors will start to meld.
 

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You will get a variety of answers to these questions. As a general rule for me, the more complex the flavor, the longer it needs to steep. Tobacco flavors are notorious for needing a long time to steep (2 weeks or more). Simpler flavors require less steeping, along with mints and menthols. Of course, this is all my own opinion and it will be different for everyone. The amount of flavoring added (flavor shots), PG/VG mix, and nic content can all affect steeping as well. Unfortunately, I have not vaped any of the flavors that you ordered, so I am particularly unqualified to guide you specifically...

Stone knows what he speaks of, fccwpe.....

I just placed a decent sized order, and am in the process of steeping the juices. Look around the forums, there are some "quick steep" methods, like water bath, ultrasonic cleaners, or good old "shake and wait". The more complex the flavor, the longer the steep time, in general. Butterscotch might taste good right out of the bottle, but might taste better after a good steep. I find that the sweet flavors take their time coming to their own. Plus, some of the flavorings need time to really mix in.

Good luck!!!
 

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Got my order today!!

I DID get a free sample, so they definitely count hardware toward the total for the purposes of giving samples. :)

I got Johnny Chimpo and I must say that my sense of smell must be recovering, because I could smell bananas before I even opened the package. haha

I ordered Kanger Evod clearomizers and I am beside myself excited with that purchase. I feel like I'm really tasting my juices for the first time. I intend to stock up on those little babies.

I tried the Thug Juice and it definitely has the same thin-ness of flavor that my Hawk Sauce had, but I am happy to report that I LOVE it! It's smooth and tasty with a nice TH. It tastes less candy like to me than the HS, but it hasn't had time to steep so that may change. The closest flavor I can think of off the top of my head is fruit punch with mint. The grape seems to be the prominent flavor, with just a subtle hint of watermelon. I don't know if it will take the place of my beloved Hawk Sauce, but I'm not freaking about not being able to order more HS before payday. This is definitely doable. I will allow the rest to steep before I vape anymore of it.

I have not tried the Johnny Chimpo. I am a little scared because I don't like banana candy, and it definitely smells like candy. I'll let it steep and give it a shot, though, before I make any judgments.
 

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"When you say "two weeks steeping" you mean I should leave it capless for two weeks in my cabinet? Or should I just let it sit after the recommended 24-48 hours without the cap on?

I just don't have a ton of space my cat can't get into lol... so I mean I'm steeping all these flavors at once I worry that in two weeks of being capless with each other the flavors will start to meld."


I keep mine in an old cigar box, caps on out of the direct sunlight and give them a hearty shake every morning. I test them once a week till I get the flavor I want.:2cool: As some have said, more complex flavors require more time. Some of the Tobacco's like the RY4 can take up to a month to develop. I've found Hawk Sauce and Thug Juice reach a good flavor at around a week and a half or two, and the 555 is good around 2 weeks. Some of the others like White Out are good right out of the mail, but do get even better with a little steep time. Just Google "Steeping E-juice" and read about some of the methods. There are differents methods and you can use the one you prefer once you understand them...Good Luck!:toast:
 

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Unfettered, EVODs are my "go to" clearos these days. I tried a lot of different ones, and once I started with the EVOD, I have not gone back!!

I haven't seen any of my juices listed on the "do not vape out of plastic tanks" list, but I am a bit concerned about using the hazelnut coffee, sticky bun and almond delight in my Evods because they are darker and thicker. The sticky bun ruined one of my stock eGo atomizers. (I've boiled it three times, once with vinegar and baking soda. It's unsalvageable.) Do you have any of these flavors and have you had any issues with using them in your Evods?
 

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"When you say "two weeks steeping" you mean I should leave it capless for two weeks in my cabinet? Or should I just let it sit after the recommended 24-48 hours without the cap on?

I just don't have a ton of space my cat can't get into lol... so I mean I'm steeping all these flavors at once I worry that in two weeks of being capless with each other the flavors will start to meld."


I keep mine in an old cigar box, caps on out of the direct sunlight and give them a hearty shake every morning. I test them once a week till I get the flavor I want.:2cool: As some have said, more complex flavors require more time. Some of the Tobacco's like the RY4 can take up to a month to develop. I've found Hawk Sauce and Thug Juice reach a good flavor at around a week and a half or two, and the 555 is good around 2 weeks. Some of the others like White Out are good right out of the mail, but do get even better with a little steep time. Just Google "Steeping E-juice" and read about some of the methods. There are differents methods and you can use the one you prefer once you understand them...Good Luck!:toast:
Removing the cap and dripper tip accomplishes two things. One, it allows the alcohol from some of the flavorings to evaporate off which helps the true flavor come through. Two, it brings a bit of air into the bottle which helps oxidize the juice. Some oxidation is good, and that is part of the reason to shake the juice (mixing the air into the juice to speed oxidation). I personally don't feel the need to leave the caps off after the second night when traditionally steeping. After that, I shake a couple times each day with the dripper tip and cap back in place.

Your method sounds just about right to me, and it reads as if you are getting satisfactory results. :)

EDIT: I'll bring this steeping post forward again:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/285341-mtbakervapor-199.html#post9138107
 
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I haven't seen any of my juices listed on the "do not vape out of plastic tanks" list, but I am a bit concerned about using the hazelnut coffee, sticky bun and almond delight in my Evods because they are darker and thicker. The sticky bun ruined one of my stock eGo atomizers. (I've boiled it three times, once with vinegar and baking soda. It's unsalvageable.) Do you have any of these flavors and have you had any issues with using them in your Evods?
The darker juices are more known for gunking coils, not cracking tanks. Deposits from the juice bake onto the coils when they heat up. The deposits can render the coil useless for vaporizing the liquid. There are ways to deal with it, but boiling might not work. You can rebuild the coil (a different conversation entirely), or you can dry burn the coil (works for some, but not everyone). Of course, you can also just put a fresh coil head in the Evod and vape on.
 

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I've used Sticky Bun in the EVODs - not a problem. The ONLY real problem I've ever had with a juice is Salted Caramel - coil killer for sure! I have never had an EVOD cloud or crack from any kind of juice.

I haven't seen any of my juices listed on the "do not vape out of plastic tanks" list, but I am a bit concerned about using the hazelnut coffee, sticky bun and almond delight in my Evods because they are darker and thicker. The sticky bun ruined one of my stock eGo atomizers. (I've boiled it three times, once with vinegar and baking soda. It's unsalvageable.) Do you have any of these flavors and have you had any issues with using them in your Evods?
 

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Removing the cap and dripper tip accomplishes two things. One, it allows the alcohol from some of the flavorings to evaporate off which helps the true flavor come through. Two, it brings a bit of air into the bottle which helps oxidize the juice. Some oxidation is good, and that is part of the reason to shake the juice (mixing the air into the juice to speed oxidation). I personally don't feel the need to leave the caps off after the second night when traditionally steeping. After that, I shake a couple times each day with the dripper tip and cap back in place.

Your method sounds just about right to me, and it reads as if you are getting satisfactory results. :)

EDIT: I'll bring this steeping post forward again:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/285341-mtbakervapor-199.html#post9138107

Thanks Stone. Usually when I get the juice, I remove the lid to take a smell and will gently squeeze a little air into the bottles before I shake. I'll shake everyday, but squeeze a little air in every day or two. I'm always afraid to leave them with the caps off somewhere as we do have cats...and yes...they can open drawers and cupboard doors and do:facepalm: and in addition to not wanting them exposed to the juice, I'd hate to think my precious juice would get spilled. If I could find my wife's Ultrasonic jewlery cleaner, I'd like to try that method of steeping too.:)
 

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Thanks Stone. Usually when I get the juice, I remove the lid to take a smell and will gently squeeze a little air into the bottles before I shake. I'll shake everyday, but squeeze a little air in every day or two. I'm always afraid to leave them with the caps off somewhere as we do have cats...and yes...they can open drawers and cupboard doors and do:facepalm: and in addition to not wanting them exposed to the juice, I'd hate to think my precious juice would get spilled. If I could find my wife's Ultrasonic jewlery cleaner, I'd like to try that method of steeping too.:)
It sounds like you're doing everything right to me:thumb: We had cats growing up that would disappear until you opened a cabinet or closet or some other weird location, so I know what you mean. We used to put rubber bands around the knobs on the kitchen cabinets to keep the cats out. Nicotine is definitely bad for them, so do keep them away, and I think your box sounds like a great option.

I use the UC for steeping now, and I personally think it is the best. Others don't, so whatever works for you is best:)
 
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