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I don't want to be a pest, but here is what I'm thinking for fixing my red-hot cinnamon:

buy 15 mls of 18 mg/ml VG, and add 35 mls of my 18 mg/ml, 50/50, +2 shots red-hot cinnamon. The theory being that the VG will suspend the cinnamonaldehyde, preventing separation. The 100% VG should dilute and mute the fire, and increase the VG percentage which isn't as good of a flavor carrier.

Any DIYers have an opinion on my plan?

The VG should help with the separation issue that you are having, and yes, VG can subdue flavors and adds some sweetness to the juices.
 

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I find that working with cotton is much easier than working with silica when re-coiling as it's much easier to roll the tip of the cotton to a point by wetting it a little to get it to pass through the coil, I find I don't really care too much for doing the coiling on the wick itself, however that said there are is the fact that silica last longer then silica does, but over time it can also splinter. Both methods have their pluses and minuses as does almost anything else in the world. lol

i tried...i tried...:cry::cry: (i remember reading one of your posts, and i assumed that's what you did. i even tried wrapping the coil around cotton and a small allen wrench, then slip out wrench. almost works) (maybe when i lower my nic, i'll have the nerves to do it)

kept ruining the coil. figured i get a little ekowool so i could make some coils now, lots lots of yarn if i ever figure it out.

are you putting cotton in the coils sans flavor wick?

WHAT, who finds your avatar thing annoying? Since at this point I have quite a bit of time on my hands I would have no problem putting my foot up their ummmm.... well not gonna say! Whoever it is that doesn't like it, well that's their damn problem. Seems to me that most of us love your ave's!

ditto, ditto!

some dude was just feeling bad about his dog av. which is a bit sad in itself, it's a cutey puppy! :D
edit: oops, it was Gary...sorry Gary :facepalm:


and condolences to ChoaticRamblings.
 
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Good afternoon MBVers :) TGIF

Welcome back and condolences Chaotic. It's great to see you again :thumb: but I'm so sorry for your loss :(

pcrdude: I think adding the 15ml of VG should help mute the flavor a bit, but I've read that high VG in DIY can cause separation problems with some flavorings (sorry Dusty Z, but that's what I've read). I vape 50/50, so I don't have much experience with the high VG thing personally. I have read that if you put the bottle in a dish of hot water, the heat will make the VG thinner so that when you shake it the juice will mix better. It could be worth a try. Two other options would be to add distilled water or vodka as thinners. Since they are both solvents, it might help with the separation as well. I would personally try about 10 drops of vodka for your batch...if it doesn't help with the separation then you can leave the cap off the juice for a couple of days and most of the vodka will evaporate out of the mix. If it does help, then keep the cap on to prevent the evaporation. Hope that helps...:2c:
 

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Good afternoon Vaperess! And good afternoon to all the other fine people here.

Love the AVE Kelli, you look as though your in deep thought.

that'll be the day! giggle.gif
 

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i tried...i tried...:cry::cry: (i remember reading one of your posts, and i assumed that's what you did. i even tried wrapping the coil around cotton and a small allen wrench, then slip out wrench. almost works) (maybe when i lower my nic, i'll have the nerves to do it)

kept ruining the coil. figured i get a little ekowool so i could make some coils now, lots lots of yarn if i ever figure it out.

are you putting cotton in the coils sans flavor wick?



ditto, ditto!

some dude was just feeling bad about his dog av. which is a bit sad in itself, it's a cutey puppy! :D

and condolences to ChoaticRamblings.

How I make my coils I use the smallest of the set of those eyeglass screwdrivers which is 1.4 mm, I heat the wire before wrapping it, I take one of the legs and fold it over the handle of the screwdriver to hold it in place, then make my wraps, I'm a bit ....-retentive with things so I like my wraps to be as even as possible, once I am done with the wraps, I then while the coil is still on the screwdriver which is all metal, I heat it once more then pull it straight off, I get no crushing of the coil. I then put it in whatever I am re-coiling or wicking, normally with evods etc I will put the screwdriver back in the coil to make any adjustments to center it while in the base then remove it, the roll the tip of of the cotton to a point and twist the cotton so that it isn't hard to pull through the coil, once I have the one side of the cotton in, I will then untwist it so it fluffs out and then cut to fit the sides and put a very small piece on top for the flavor wick, I don't always do this and have had no gurgling or leaking problems.

This all sound much more difficult then it is. :D
 

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How I make my coils I use the smallest of the set of those eyeglass screwdrivers which is 1.4 mm, I heat the wire before wrapping it, I take one of the legs and fold it over the handle of the screwdriver to hold it in place, then make my wraps, I'm a bit ....-retentive with things so I like my wraps to be as even as possible, once I am done with the wraps, I then while the coil is still on the screwdriver which is all metal, I heat it once more then pull it straight off, I get no crushing of the coil. I then put it in whatever I am re-coiling or wicking, normally with evods etc I will put the screwdriver back in the coil to make any adjustments to center it while in the base then remove it, the roll the tip of of the cotton to a point and twist the cotton so that it isn't hard to pull through the coil, once I have the one side of the cotton in, I will then untwist it so it fluffs out and then cut to fit the sides and put a very small piece on top for the flavor wick, I don't always do this and have had no gurgling or leaking problems.

This all sound much more difficult then it is. :D
FWIW, this is exactly my method (except I use the post of a drill bit instead of a screwdriver). :thumbs:
 

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I'm back in Michigan after spending two weeks in Georgia with my Daddy. He died on September 17th of Cancer. I'm so grateful that I got to spend that time with him. I cared for him and we talked and laughed and really had a wonderful time. His passing was very easy and quick. He basically just went to sleep. I'm having a hard time with this. My Daddy raised me after my Mom split when I was 3. He was an amazing Father and I'm missing him something fierce. At least I got that time with him though. It meant the world to me.

My sincerest condolences, it's really tough losing a parent, be grateful you had that time together, it may not help much now but later it's something you can look back on...

I lost my father in my mid 30's, living half the country away, working hard to support my family, 12hrs a day 6 days a week, so calls were not as frequent as they should have been. He passed completely unexpectedly, actually with my mom and sister watching a movie at the house. Both are nurses and there was nothing they could do...

To this day I wish I could have told him that I loved him or something and wish he could have seen his granddaughters grow up, he would have been so proud...

Sorry, not sure where all that came from...
 

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Good afternoon MBVers :) TGIF

Welcome back and condolences Chaotic. It's great to see you again :thumb: but I'm so sorry for your loss :(

pcrdude: I think adding the 15ml of VG should help mute the flavor a bit, but I've read that high VG in DIY can cause separation problems with some flavorings (sorry Dusty Z, but that's what I've read). I vape 50/50, so I don't have much experience with the high VG thing personally. I have read that if you put the bottle in a dish of hot water, the heat will make the VG thinner so that when you shake it the juice will mix better. It could be worth a try. Two other options would be to add distilled water or vodka as thinners. Since they are both solvents, it might help with the separation as well. I would personally try about 10 drops of vodka for your batch...if it doesn't help with the separation then you can leave the cap off the juice for a couple of days and most of the vodka will evaporate out of the mix. If it does help, then keep the cap on to prevent the evaporation. Hope that helps...:2c:

Well, no need to be sorry, however there are always going to be certain fluids that are going to eventually separate. I ran into this from time to time when making massage oils. For instance, I used to get Pure 10 or 20 fold Vanilla oil and the stuff is heavenly, but the problem is that even though it's going in with another OIL, it is an immiscible and will not mix with either water or oil,m it will separate, and using something like ethanol it will mix with that. This is why it's always recommended not only for such oils but for e-juices as well to shake them before using them.
 

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i tried...i tried...:cry::cry: (i remember reading one of your posts, and i assumed that's what you did. i even tried wrapping the coil around cotton and a small allen wrench, then slip out wrench. almost works) (maybe when i lower my nic, i'll have the nerves to do it)

kept ruining the coil. figured i get a little ekowool so i could make some coils now, lots lots of yarn if i ever figure it out.

are you putting cotton in the coils sans flavor wick?



ditto, ditto!

some dude was just feeling bad about his dog av. which is a bit sad in itself, it's a cutey puppy! :D
edit: oops, it was Gary...sorry Gary :facepalm:


and condolences to ChoaticRamblings.

Well I certainly hope that was not the case. I thought I was just being humorous and complimentary at the same time but apparently it was not taken that way. I'll just stick to flavor reviews on this thread.
 

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@Seanchai: your name is giving me fits of deja vu. the Pond?? or Total War?? (sorry to read about your health.)

Neither of the above, but it's Irish Gaelic for "storyteller" (as in the ceremonial position of "keeper of tribal history," the second most honored position in ancient Irish culture, below only bards), so I'm positive I'm not the only one using it. :)

Re: my health, thanks, but it was bound to happen sooner or later - probably with or without smoking, tbh, since the *first* time it ever happened I was 12 and definitely not smoking yet... but smoking isn't doing me any favors, so time to stop the habit I knew was a bad idea from the beginning. I'm on the mend now, which is the best I could hope for... and it was the catalyst for *Mom* being ready to quit, which I'm so so proud of her for (and will continue to be, regardless of outcome... she's *never* been ready to quit before, not seriously) and I'm thrilled to have found ECF, cause I'm a compulsive researcher/tinkerer/knowledge hound, so this place scratches all of those itches and then some. So it's all good, or whatever the kids are saying these days.



Thanks for the suggestions, adding them to the list!
 

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Well I certainly hope that was not the case. I thought I was just being humorous and complimentary at the same time but apparently it was not taken that way. I'll just stick to flavor reviews on this thread.

no worries mate. some folks is just sensitive. :thumb:

and others, like me, a wee bit insensitive...:facepalm:
 

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Well, no need to be sorry, however there are always going to be certain fluids that are going to eventually separate. I ran into this from time to time when making massage oils. For instance, I used to get Pure 10 or 20 fold Vanilla oil and the stuff is heavenly, but the problem is that even though it's going in with another OIL, it is an immiscible and will not mix with either water or oil,m it will separate, and using something like ethanol it will mix with that. This is why it's always recommended not only for such oils but for e-juices as well to shake them before using them.
Agreed :thumb:
I guess I read it wrong on the EC blend site (which states that 50%-100% PG is required).

I'm gonna try a hot bath steep to see if it helps.....

(for the juice, not me)

:D
The juice only needs to be in the hot bath long enough to thin the VG (maybe 10 minutes or so, depending on the water temp)...then shake it like you mean it :) You might need to repeat the process a few times, too.
Well I certainly hope that was not the case. I thought I was just being humorous and complimentary at the same time but apparently it was not taken that way. I'll just stick to flavor reviews on this thread.
Misunderstandings can happen with text, it happens to all of us...I would miss your sense of humor if you only posted reviews.
 

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Neither of the above, but it's Irish Gaelic for "storyteller" (as in the ceremonial position of "keeper of tribal history," the second most honored position in ancient Irish culture, below only bards), so I'm positive I'm not the only one using it. :)

Re: my health, thanks, but it was bound to happen sooner or later - probably with or without smoking, tbh, since the *first* time it ever happened I was 12 and definitely not smoking yet... but smoking isn't doing me any favors, so time to stop the habit I knew was a bad idea from the beginning. I'm on the mend now, which is the best I could hope for... and it was the catalyst for *Mom* being ready to quit, which I'm so so proud of her for (and will continue to be, regardless of outcome... she's *never* been ready to quit before, not seriously) and I'm thrilled to have found ECF, cause I'm a compulsive researcher/tinkerer/knowledge hound, so this place scratches all of those itches and then some. So it's all good, or whatever the kids are saying these days.

Thanks for the suggestions, adding them to the list!

glad to hear your doing something good for yourself and your mom.

i heard you on the zero nic, i'm taking the fast way there. my heart function was down to 20% in July. the doc wanted to give me a pacemaker, but after he explained it, i just couldn't fathom having a "garage door" opener sewed into me chest. so he "jimmyrigged" with a couple of stents. it slowly dawned on me that chain-vaping 24mg juice whilst i read for an hour before i crash that it just might be the cause of me not actually being able to crash! :lol:

and you should really take a look at those itaste v3s. for the price of a spinner you get variable wattage, an ohm meter and you can check battery strength. (i do suggest smaller "tanks" with them, although they work fine with regular protanks and davides)
 

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Hawk Sauce is goood. Did not like it when I first ordered, so the bottle kinda sat on the sidelines. Couple weeks later, it was this crazy yellow, so I dripped it and was totally surprised by how tasty it was. Ordered a 50ml bottle on my next order.

And it's funny, but back when I started I was (like many) on the hunt for a tobacco ADV, and slowly got turned on to things like Almond, and Strawberry Shortcake, and sure enough, I am a dessert/bakery vaper now, with a fruit flavor thrown in here and there for good measure. I don't even like tobacco vapes in comparison anymore. Strange, just goes to show how much vaping is NOT smoking, I guess.

Yup, I was exactly the same. Early on, I figured I'd always want a tobacco flavor in my rotation; not the case anymore after having sampled more flavors. I mean, the apple I was vaping is good every now and then, but I tend to want to switch flavors before finishing the tank. With Hawk Sauce and this delicious "Guava" juice, the tank empties too fast! I wanted my gf to try Hawk Sauce but was already vaping metal (yuck) well before she had gotten home.

I'm not going to dump all my tobacco juice down the drain or anything, but I imagine they'll be sitting in my cupboard for a long time before I'm compelled to vape them over non-tobacco flavors.
 

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Appreciate that Stone. I do use a dry sense of humor that must not carry over in text. I apologize to anyone offended.
Mine can be dry too, I guess I just easily recognize it. ECF has trained me to use lots of emoticons too, to emphasize intent...I was not an emoticon user before ECF.
 

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Well I certainly hope that was not the case. I thought I was just being humorous and complimentary at the same time but apparently it was not taken that way. I'll just stick to flavor reviews on this thread.

My post was not directed towards you, just wanted to make that clear, I was just going by the overall comment that someone what dissing her use of Avatar's. I know for me, I have a very sarcastic sense of humor which often times doesn't come off as intended in posts as you can't hear the inflection in the voice or facial expressions.

Oh, and someone has to defend the future Queen of the thread! :D
 
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