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It's the monster multiquote post! That's what I get for going back to bed... or that's what you guys get... or... never mind, here we go:

i put my pants on two legs at a time. does that mean i am more inspirational than you are? ;)

It's sure as heck inspirational to *me*! Also, picking things up from the floor with your toes. Also running. How do people *do* that? I suspect witchcraft.

Seriously, as a writer I find myself asking my ablebodied friends and family the *weirdest* questions.

"What does your field of vision look like when you do that whole *running* thing?"
Them: "Uh.... I have no idea. I'll get back to you. Why?"
Me: "Well, I "run" in my dreams, but my body doesn't know what that feels like or looks like from my perspective, so it cuts out all my feeling from the waist down and my field of vision is completely smooth, as if I'm in my chair... and then I get to a flight of stairs and it's like my brain goes "wait a minute, this isn't right," and suddenly I have CP again and fall down them.... and I really don't think real running looks glidey, and I have a character running, so just for my own edification, yeah, get back to me? Oh, while you're thinking about things like that, how does that *stairs* concept go? What's it look like when you guys are doing that whole Rocky thing?"
Them: "Rocky?"
Me: Look, in the rare event I take the stairs, I'm clinging to the railing like a dying spider and taking roughly five minutes per stair. You guys just walk up them. It's cool, I'm just saying, I'd like a realistic idea of what it feels like to do that stuff *normally* so that maybe my characters can take the stairs someday without me being scared I screwed up something obvious."
Them: You worry too much.
Me: Really? Do you know how many books I've read by ablebodied authors who describe pushing a chair so badly that I'm yelling "Manual wheelchairs don't work that way!"? Their advantage is, most of their readers will never know the difference. I screw up something like *walking*? *Everyone* but me will know I got it wrong.
Them:..... you yell at your books?
Me: All the time. I yell at my own characters more often, though. It's a writer thing, I promise."

ok so i said a while back that i don't really love the box mods so much cause i think they are kinda fugly. but....

i found an innokin MVP2 kit on ebay for about $40 with free shipping, so i snagged on it. i like the idea of being able to vape for several days without a charge. and who knows, i might just fall in love with the thing. will let ya know.

btw, i am absolutely loving this peanut butter/strawberry shortcake combo. View attachment 274435


Welcome to the cult - er, I mean, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. (evil grin) I'm still going to pick up something a little more portable for when I want decent battery life but I'm not sitting at home all day - most likely the vv3 - but really, the MVP2 is my main mod, and I suspect it will remain so for a loooong time. I know everyone says that and then they upgrade, but this thing is such a jack of all trades, master of most that I can't see using anything else as my *main*. I'm sure I'll accumulate other mods for specific purposes or because they're shiny and new, but in terms of what I see myself reaching for for everyday relatively hassle free vaping? The MVP2 is it, for me. It's cheap enough that I'm not scared to actually *use* the thing, yet it does everything I want it to do. Good stuff.

I read in the Vamo battery thread to recharge at 3.5 to extend it's life.

Mowgli is correct - recharging at 3.5 will give you the best life on any li-ion battery. Topping them up all the way to 4.2 doesn't hurt them at all... in fact, I'd recommend it, *as long as* those batteries are not going to then sit unused for a while. There are two things you want to try to avoid if you're looking to extend battery life - draining them completely dry, and letting them *sit* with a full charge on them. Li-ions like to be discharged regularly. Letting them sit for a week or so fully charged probably won't hurt them too much, but habitually letting them sit fully charged will affect their ability to take a full charge the *next* time around. (Same goes for leaving them plugged in after they've charged, which, if you're dealing with naked batteries, is also a bad idea for overcharge reasons, of course). Hope that helps!

ok, question. when i get my MVP2, how do i know what to set the wattage/voltage at so i don't burn out my coils. i use mostly 1.8 -2.2 ohm coils. i know nothing about electrical stuff, so i need some basic lessons i reckon. is it possible to set the w/v too high and do damage?

Couple things.... Voltage works the same way it does on any VV PV, so if you've ever used *anything* VV, that knowledge is transferable in its entirety. :) If not, don't panic, there are some really good charts out there to help you figure out both volts *and* watts. Here you go: Variable Voltage, Variable Wattage, and Ohms

I used that for the first week or so just to make sure I didn't pop my coils - hit the ohm checker, find the resistance of that particular tank/clearo/carto on the chart, and there's your range for watts *or* volts. After a week, I had the ranges memorized. (I vape a *lot* and switch tanks a *lot*, so I got a lot of practice in that one week!) It's worth noting that the resistance of your tank/carto/clearo will often be slightly different every time you screw it on - it depends on exactly how tight it's screwed on, whether you're using an adapter, and how clean or dirty your coil is. (At this point, I think the tides and the gravitational pull of the sun may also have an effect. And gremlins.) Anyway, that's why the ohm checker is useful. I still doublecheck every time I screw something on, because just because it was 2.0 an hour ago doesn't mean it won't be 2.7 this time... but at this point, as long as I know what the resistance is, I can set my voltage accordingly (wattage, of course, won't vary according to your coil, cause that's the whole point of wattage.)

I use volts more often than watts, though, because volts allow for more fine tuning (volts go up in 0.1 increments, watts in 0.5). I switch to watts when I'm tired or distracted and don't want to/don't trust myself to fiddle according to which tank I've got screwed on.

Re: coils - if you vape a lot of dark/sweet liquids, you may want to consider going up on your coil resistance a little bit (2.4 or so). I personally find 1.8-2.0 a little hot for the juices I like to vape on the MVP2, as often as I like to vape them. But no, you're definitely not going to ruin anything or set anything on fire. At worst, you could pop your coil if you're running a 1.8 coil and you're not paying attention and have it set to 5 volts or 11 watts.

oh yes they do! i started getting 4 times the length out of my coils using vw and knowing exactly what voltage to use. i use voltage on peanut butter and tobaccos.

I'm noticing the length of my coils has extended dramatically too. Just a week ago I was wondering if I'd have enough to last me till Black Friday... then I dryburned them (which previously had only given me a few extra days at most), and wow... they look brand new. No wear and tear whatsoever. I can only assume that's from being able to set the voltage/wattage exactly as high as I need it, no more, no less.
 

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I vape at 6-6.5 watts. With the Vamo it has an ohm checker and sets the volts automatically according to the resistance (ohms) of your topper to give you the wattage you set. When I'm using a VV eGo (winder or spinner) I check the ohms of the coil with the Vamo then use either that chart Mogli posted which I have saved in my documents and refer to often or I use this online ohm's law calculator. Ohm's Law Calculator This allows me to set the voltage according the resistance of the coil and get to 6-6.5watts without a wattage setting.

As far as the voltage regulation on the Vamo P Busardo actually tested this on a scope in his latest review for the v5. It does actually fire at the full power it's set to every time until it cuts off. The scope also shows how the PWM (pulse width modulation) of the 33.3 hz chip works and he explains the whole rattlesnake sound a bit. He even double checked the power regulation by resting a dead battery that had reached the cut off enough to get it to fire a few more times and it still fired at the right power. I usually take my batteries out and charge them when they get down to 3.5v to lessen the stress on them and extend their life. When I first got my Vamo I noticed once it seemed to be getting weak hits just before the battery reached it's cut off but it turned out that the coil was dying and I ended up replacing the head shortly after putting a fresh battery in. In other news I just did a quick inventory and I have 62 different flavors of MBV juice now.

Here is the P Busardo Vamo v5 review. This is the only Vamo review he has done in years since the V1 review. No reviews from him for v2-v4 although he does mention that the numbers and function of the v3 is identical.
 
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Actually for carto and ProTank usage I am at the highest green area pretty consistently lookin' at the chart again. Though I pretty much run in VW mode if the option is there, typically between 7w and 8w, my RDAs is where I push (conversion wise) into the 9w and 10w range but they are all driven off my mechanical mods so it comes down to my coil ;)
 

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Doesn't anybody else here soak and clean their protank-evod coils?
I clean mine all the time....
Whenever I use or empty a tank, I take the coil out throw it in some alcohol, soak it (overnight), rinse it well in hot water
n let it dry. My coils last a really long time....

Sean, my girl says you should google and look on Youtube for "Go-Pro" cameras.
She is a horse fanatic and some of her favorite trainers use them to give students the feeling of being on the horse
and running specific patterns. It's head or chest cameras. Sounds interesting....
 

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I should add that I don't pay much attention to any range on those charts but the full on red parts. If it's too *low*, big deal, I'll crank it up till I like it - but straying too far into the red gives me burnt taste on the dark and/or sweet liquids I like *anyway*, plus potentially risks my coil, so when I started out, I just kept the beginning of the red range in mind as a cautionary point. I don't know beans about sub-ohm vaping or dual coils, but I know enough to know both of those change the metrics of what would qualify as the "Danger, Will Robinson" range.
 

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Doesn't anybody else here soak and clean their protank-evod coils?
I clean mine all the time....
Whenever I use or empty a tank, I take the coil out throw it in some alcohol, soak it (overnight), rinse it well in hot water
n let it dry. My coils last a really long time....

Sean, my girl says you should google and look on Youtube for "Go-Pro" cameras.



She is a horse fanatic and some of her favorite trainers use them to give students the feeling of being on the horse
and running specific patterns. It's head or chest cameras. Sounds interesting....



Yes me and the hubby soak ours also just like you stated. A few weeks ago i stumbled on a thread where someone discovered soaking them in those everdesenst (sp?) tablets people use for soaking dentures, thought that was interesting theory, just havent bought any to try yet
 

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Doesn't anybody else here soak and clean their protank-evod coils?
I clean mine all the time....
Whenever I use or empty a tank, I take the coil out throw it in some alcohol, soak it (overnight), rinse it well in hot water
n let it dry. My coils last a really long time....

I get on average 2-6 weeks just using them till they drop in performance or die with no cleaning or maintenance other than a quick wipe off and blowing out excess juice in between fills. I think I may try your method though and save the next few as they get gunked up. Two questions - what kind of alcohol do you soak them in, and after the rinse how long do you let them dry? I think in my previous attempts with this I used the wrong alcohol and didn't soak long enough so I didn't really get much performance restored or make them last much longer.
 

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Yes me and the hubby soak ours also just like you stated. A few weeks ago i stumbled on a thread where someone discovered soaking them in those everdesenst (sp?) tablets people use for soaking dentures, thought that was interesting theory, just havent bought any to try yet

That is interesting...I read some saying that they put them in their UC, too....but, I don't have one.
 

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meh, on what atomizers? I use 10w-14w on Rsst

Evod & Protank coils like 7w more or less

So true. I stopped questioning why I can run my dripper at about 22 watts and it's great, but if I try to push 8 watts out of a clearo it's horribly burnt. Some things in life you just gotta accept an enjoy :)
 

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Doesn't anybody else here soak and clean their protank-evod coils?
I clean mine all the time....
Whenever I use or empty a tank, I take the coil out throw it in some alcohol, soak it (overnight), rinse it well in hot water
n let it dry. My coils last a really long time....

I soak and clean mine too, I just vape a *lot*, and my favorite juices all tend to be pretty bad coil gunkers. Usually I have to soak, rinse, dry, dryburn, and rinse again to get all the mehidlik off.

Oh boy, now I have to try to figure out how to tell this story, cause otherwise I'll forget myself and say mehidlik again and everybody is going to be going "What? Not even Google knows what that is!" Let's see. In the 60s, my uncle was in Germany selling something that was popular in the 60s that he shouldn't have been selling. There was a glut in the market and he was trying to unload his goods. Being an enterprising type, he decided to tell people it was "Mehidlik" and thus better than anything else. "Mehidlik" is a word he made up on the spot, of course, but he sold out. In family lore, "mehidlik" has evolved to mean "unidentifiable gunk," i.e. "you have some mehidlik on your shirt" or "time to get the mehidlik off my coils.... again." Hopefully that's opaque enough, if not I'll edit it out. :)

Sean, my girl says you should google and look on Youtube for "Go-Pro" cameras.
She is a horse fanatic and some of her favorite trainers use them to give students the feeling of being on the horse
and running specific patterns. It's head or chest cameras. Sounds interesting....

Oh, I *love* Go-Pros. They use them in the X Games too, and occasionally in baseball. Amazing stuff. I never thought of searching for Go-Pro footage on Youtube though, so thanks!
 

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I get on average 2-6 weeks just using them till they drop in performance or die with no cleaning or maintenance other than a quick wipe off and blowing out excess juice in between fills. I think I may try your method though and save the next few as they get gunked up. Two questions - what kind of alcohol do you soak them in, and after the rinse how long do you let them dry? I think in my previous attempts with this I used the wrong alcohol and didn't soak long enough so I didn't really get much performance restored or make them last much longer.
Vodka overnight, rinse and air dry a few hours is what we do
 

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I get on average 2-6 weeks just using them till they drop in performance or die with no cleaning or maintenance other than a quick wipe off and blowing out excess juice in between fills. I think I may try your method though and save the next few as they get gunked up. Two questions - what kind of alcohol do you soak them in, and after the rinse how long do you let them dry? I think in my previous attempts with this I used the wrong alcohol and didn't soak long enough so I didn't really get much performance restored or make them last much longer.

I use Isoprophyl (?) (rubbing alcohol) 91%.
I just throw em in there, usually overnight, then rinse them really well in hot tap water, lay them on a paper towel n let em
dry....never really timed the drying, just til they're dry....
I have stockpiled lots of coils n have plenty to rotate (got cheap from FT).
Nothing I do is too scientific...lol...it just works for me. :vapor:
 

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I should add that I don't pay much attention to any range on those charts but the full on red parts. If it's too *low*, big deal, I'll crank it up till I like it - but straying too far into the red gives me burnt taste on the dark and/or sweet liquids I like *anyway*, plus potentially risks my coil, so when I started out, I just kept the beginning of the red range in mind as a cautionary point. I don't know beans about sub-ohm vaping or dual coils, but I know enough to know both of those change the metrics of what would qualify as the "Danger, Will Robinson" range.



i am too vapid to figure out all those charts and math and crap, so i just adjust til i find the sweet spot. it's worked for many months for me on my eGo's, might just work on my MVP2 also. :)
 

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i soak my coils in vodka (the cheapest nastiest kind available so i am not tempted to drink it) overnight, then rinse them. i then put them in a window for a day, then put them in a clearo and dry burn them a few sec on an eGo. i usually get at least a month out of them, sometimes even longer.

Hehehe!!! I can get a huge bottle at walmart for under $5, cant even remember the name of it, some off brand cheap vodka, gallon size!!!! Other shoppers probably think i have a "problem"!!! Nope, just need to soak my attys!!:)
 

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I use Isoprophyl (?) (rubbing alcohol) 91%.
I just throw em in there, usually overnight, then rinse them really well in hot tap water, lay them on a paper towel n let em
dry....never really timed the drying, just til they're dry....
I have stockpiled lots of coils n have plenty to rotate (got cheap from FT).
Nothing I do is too scientific...lol...it just works for me. :vapor:

I've always just popped the protank/evod chimney thing off, rinsed all parts under hot tap water, dry burned, then ran a hair drier over them til dry. Back up and vaping in about 3 minutes :)
 

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the "Danger, Will Robinson" range.

That made me laugh :)

i am too vapid to figure out all those charts and math and crap, so i just adjust til i find the sweet spot. it's worked for many months for me on my eGo's, might just work on my MVP2 also. :)

That actually works better than a chart does.
 
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